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Landpimp said:
it was a dealer option of a Toyota part, it was sold world wide.....
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Yup lots of TMS developed parts are sold to other markets. Rav4 spare tire covers for example are one I worked on. Those can be installed anywhere, dealer or port (Long Beach, Portland, etc). Its Toyota, just not something necessarily considered in the base assembly line version and people have discounted it for that.

If I still had access I could have tracked down the dealer instructions with the line drawings to show exactly where these antennas are supposed to go. Maybe I can message someone on Linkedin
 
ryanwk628 said:
Fyi just because it's not from Japan does not mean something is not Toyota. When I interned at TMS in Torrance for a few months in2007 I worked in corporate accessories doing supplier quality management. Things like if the wheels for the higher trim levels were to spec, color matching spare tire covers, gas and brake pedals and how to implement The Toyota Production System to help suppliers. Many options you get are TMS not Toyota Japan. TMS does port installed accessories and dealer installed accessories. An example of a port installed accessory is the roof rack on the FJ Cruiser or wheel locks. All weather floor mats were often dealer installed. Where it goes in is a function of demand, market and supply chain. A very successful TMS accessory may become a Toyota Japan factory accessory in time as they notice the demand (think back up cameras or in this case radios)

Toyota uses suppliers to manufacture components for their vehicles up and down the production stream. The difference between a Toyota and another product IMO is not the engineering because frankly engineers jump between companies all the time, rather it's the quality of the parts they put in. Regardless of if they are installed at the factory, the port or dealer, they all have to meet strict Toyota standards which often far exceed those of the competitors. These are all Toyota parts.
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ryanwk628 said:
Yea haha, I was researching an antenna and every thread seems to have someone going "you know thats was a dealer option, not Toyota" and I wanted to shout "do you realize how many Toyota options are dealer or port installed?" so I did haha. We are one market for a global company and things that may help sell vehicles in the US (radios in the 70s or back up cameras today) are not needed in other areas. So Toyota Motor Sales (or Toyota South East if you're down that way) sell those accessories. Sometimes they go on before Toyota Logistics Services takes ownership (port installed) and sometimes they go on after (dealer installed). Regardless, if its a Toyota part its Toyota.
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Find it interesting comparing 2007 to 1977. Fifteen years earlier Toyota had dropped their car line just after introducing it and only selling a few hundred FJ40s a year. 63 started the 45LV and 45LP and believe it was 65 when the car line started again. Toyota was offering many American made options thru their dealers. Even products lines they made like PTO winches and soft tops. Rear reflectors were required on the FJ25 but wasn't until 64 they started using Koito reflectors instead of locally made reflectors installed at port. Koito lights were being on the FJ25 so was already a sub-contractor as well as Nippon-Denso heaters. But a Eaton heater made in the US was offered to their dealers until 64 when one was offered as a factory option. They were also advertising in magazines looking for dealers. Post WWII it wasn't easy for a Japanese company to get established in the US. When I bought my first FJ40 in 1974 it wasn't "cool you bought a FJ40" but "why did I buy a Jap vehicle". I'm not saying it was like 1962 in 1977 but certainly not near was it was in 2007. 1977 of the four dealers in the Phoenix area one was part of a GM dealership. In Flagstaff only dealer was attached to a dealer that handle four GM line vehicles. Not sure when that stopped but neither of those are part of a GM dealer. The one in the Phoenix area was a Oldsmobile which took car if itself. Flagstaff has been a separate dealer long before 2007. Toyota is no longer advertising in magazines looking for dealers but instead sets all the rules to become a dealer.
 
My FJ40, purchased second hand in 1977, had a broken off factory antenna on the driver side and an aftermarket antenna mounted on the passenger side.

I got a new OEM antenna that fits perfectly in the holes on the driver's side. I was thinking the driver's side was the best place for it, because it's close enough for the driver to reach out and retract when the brush on the side of the trail is closing in...
 
I wonder if it was moved away from the windshield frame outwards to improve reception. Mine all tucked in has lousy reception.
 
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jm599 said:
I wonder if it was moved away from the windshield frame outwards to improve reception. Mine all tucked in has lousy reception.
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Interesting you mentioned about your antenna being tucked in. Last night I was looking at my antenna, and noticed how close it was to my windshield and the height at which is was installed. I thought, there would be no possible way of laying my windshield forward without removing my antenna....Being that I will probably never lay my windshield all the way forward to drive, it's current location is not a problem for me. Also, I seem to get good reception from my OEM antenna, and I don't even have it extended all the way up. Not sure of the radio station signal strength, but at 100 miles from Atlanta and up in the GA mountains, I still get the station I prefer.

Note: Should I ever repaint my rig, I'd lower my antenna location a few inches so that when it was fully closed it would allow the windshield to lay forward....(me only $0.02)
 
100 miles even behind mtns?
Wow. I'm gonna get a new one then.
 
Landpimp said:
should be mounted like this on a latter model, this pretty well matches what i have seen in the factory literature for US 40's. But I have also seen it on the driverside and a few other locations.
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If located here, the antenna cable has to run through the firewall somewhere. Where would that be?
 
lhoboy said:
If located here, the antenna cable has to run through the firewall somewhere. Where would that be?
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I think I cracked the myth about where the Antenna should be.

I have a left hand drive 1979 BJ40. As per the catalogue, note the wire loom/firewall grommet and spacer (avoiding contact with metal parts):
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The same wire loom/firewall grommet is there again, and the spacer is called up near the speaker:
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The same arrangement for spacer is shown here (sorry for not referencing as I downloaded it years ago):
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SOR shows wire loom/firewall grommet on both sides:
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So I think it is okay to conclude that the Aerial will be near the glove box, i.e right hand side.
 
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charliemeyer007 said:
That's were mine is. Never really had a radio. But soon I'll be installing my HAM 2M
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Charlie, I have a 2M radio in my 40, and it works well. I made an NMO antenna mount that goes on top of my (4Plus) spare tire carrier. Not a ton of ground plane there, but with a half-wave antenna it does just fine. I'm sure you could figure out how to mount a 2M antenna in the stock location, and the top of it should be far enough above the level of the hood to get some ground plane from there.

Lee
 
I have a big steel plate in the roof over the hole left in the roof from a PO's POS install of a leaking moon roof - that's my plane.
 
BJ40xLegend said:
Do you have photos of weld nuts inside the cowl apron? May be the aftermarket panels don't have. It would be nice to see for comparison.
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Here is a picture of the upper weld nut. The lower isn’t visible to my camera.

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