Another 2013 head gasket goes kaput

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Heads are on.. driver's side thanks to a great neighbor that came by to help get the cat pipe lined up with the manifold. Everything is timed up and torqued.

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I'll have the front timing cover on shortly.. Most likely get it started and running early tomorrow.
 
Good progress now that I have everything I need.

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they was fast!
Need new heater tees?
 
Heater T assemblies are only a year old..

Calling it for the night. 11 hours in it today. Should be running tomorrow afternoon.

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Top side is done other than filling with coolant and burping. Exhaust still needs hooked up, oil, etc.

@GrouchyTech I had planned to leave the injector harnesses disconnected and turn the engine over for a while to get oil into the top end before actually starting it. Would this increase the risk of any of those lash adjusters collapsing and causing a rocker to jump out?
 
Top side is done other than filling with coolant and burping. Exhaust still needs hooked up, oil, etc.

@GrouchyTech I had planned to leave the injector harnesses disconnected and turn the engine over for a while to get oil into the top end before actually starting it. Would this increase the risk of any of those lash adjusters collapsing and causing a rocker to jump out?
I wouldn’t worry about a few long cranks causing any issue like that, especially since you primed your adjusters. Get some oil up top and fire it up!

If you have GTS (tech steam) you can go to the active test list on the Engine ECU and select “check the cylinder compression” which will cut both spark and fuel.
 
If you have GTS (tech steam) you can go to the active test list on the Engine ECU and select “check the cylinder compression” which will cut both spark and fuel.

Perfect.. thanks
 
There has been a curiously long span of time since your last post. Everything good?
Yeah, shes purring like a kitten.

Primed the oil system, started with the little bit of valve clatter you mentioned from the lash adjusters. I ran it for a while then shut it down to look for leaks. Then another run around the neighborhood, dropped the oil to get any coolant/dirt/swarf from all this work.. surprising amount of sparkles in it in the sunlight? Fresh fill of oil, went to the grocery store, everything seems good. The AC didn't want to cool for a while but now it is? Might need to dig in to that.

Have a busy rest of my day.. still need to get the E&E skids on (they are beautiful but do take a long time to install) then a longer trip tomorrow AM.

Thanks for the help!

I'll post more with some pictures and thoughts as I find time.
 
Yeah, shes purring like a kitten.

Primed the oil system, started with the little bit of valve clatter you mentioned from the lash adjusters. I ran it for a while then shut it down to look for leaks. Then another run around the neighborhood, dropped the oil to get any coolant/dirt/swarf from all this work.. surprising amount of sparkles in it in the sunlight? Fresh fill of oil, went to the grocery store, everything seems good. The AC didn't want to cool for a while but now it is? Might need to dig in to that.

Have a busy rest of my day.. still need to get the E&E skids on (they are beautiful but do take a long time to install) then a longer trip tomorrow AM.

Thanks for the help!

I'll post more with some pictures and thoughts as I find time.

Color me impressed. Nice job! Including the wealth of information shared with the hive mind.

How many hours would you say this takes for the next person, assuming just changing the headgasket and minimal other refresh work?

Would you pull the motor if you had to do this again?
 
Color me impressed. Nice job! Including the wealth of information shared with the hive mind.

How many hours would you say this takes for the next person, assuming just changing the headgasket and minimal other refresh work?

Would you pull the motor if you had to do this again?

My two cents that wasn’t asked for.

It’s a 32ish hour book time job. For reference.

If I ever do my 200 the engine will come out. Not because it’s hard to work on in frame.
Because it will be much easier to control certain things on an engine stand and not have to crawl over my bumper.
 
Color me impressed. Nice job! Including the wealth of information shared with the hive mind.

How many hours would you say this takes for the next person, assuming just changing the headgasket and minimal other refresh work?

Would you pull the motor if you had to do this again?

Thanks man. It has been a journey. Putting some miles on the rig I realized how much I missed driving it..

Gotta say, the new chain tensioners sound great.

Pull the engine? For me? No, though it's close. For others it would depend on a few things. For instance.. I was surprised how long it took to get some of the accessories back onto the engine. AC compressor, alternator.. so if you had the resources to just break the AC lines pulling the engine would be that much easier. But if you didn't?

It would certainly cut down on the inconvenience of doing all the work around the engine. Example.. the stupid little 2-bolt brace between the block and oil cooler definitely took me over an hour between removal and reinstall. On a stand? Nothingburger. I did what I could removing the tires and putting the front as low as possible on jack stands.. worth the effort. It really did help with access. If I had a big front bumper I would have removed that, for sure. But getting it high enough into the air to do the exhaust today meant resetting the stands and such. Maybe one day I'll have a 2-post lift.

Also, I spent a s*** ton of time cleaning parts. I very well may have spent as much time cleaning stuff as I did actually wrenching on the engine. (not all the accessories). That was much more difficult with the block obscured by the crossmember, but still would be a time suck without the luxury of a real parts cleaner.

Engine assembly definitely would have been more sanitary. This wouldn't be an issue during other months but the oak trees are spewing pollen everywhere so I was constantly moving old t-shirts around keeping things covered. Part of why I am dumping the oil a couple extra times. Other people with enough room in the garage could manage this.. at first I was considering it but I'm glad I didn't.. the sheer amount of stuff that had to get removed and organized took up well over half the floor of my 2-car garage.

In the past when I have pulled an engine there are sleeper inconveniences. Like needing help to pull the hood. Getting the hood lined up again *just* right. Finding room for the hoist that you only need at the start and end of the job.

I wouldn't even know where to begin to quote time. clr made a good point about the book time.. but that's assuming you have a lift and service center level tools like a parts cleaner. It would be easier to ballpark if I hadn't spent so many weeks waiting on parts.

Now at the end of the job (I hope), I'm glad I did it myself, though I would have been more prepared to invest some time waiting for a reputable machine shop, and I'd do some things differently with sourcing parts. Though I guess if the machine shop had been worth a s*** I wouldn't have been waiting on parts. Everything was done to my standard.. including a torque wrench for everything internal and above M6 external. OE parts. Not a single extra bolt left over.. except for the head of the one M6 ground strap bolt that snapped off the back of one cam tower. And I've got an intimate understanding of the condition of the inside of this engine.

Sorry for the wall of text.. I said I'd have some thoughts.
 
Epic thread and great outcome. I know first hand what a relief it is to hit the starter and have it run with its new parts (80 head gasket for me). I’ll bet with its new top end that 5.7 will run a long, long time. Thanks for taking the time to share the adventure.
 
A few more days, a few hundred miles, towed a car I was borrowing while I did the job on a dolly about 150 miles back to its owner.

I'll try to get video, but you guys wouldn't believe how quiet the idle is now. I'm assuming due to the all new chain tensioners. It also feels like it's running better.. not that it was bad before, at all.. but it just feels smooth.. "happy." If anything I'm chalking this up to the cleaned injectors. The two or three that were out of spec were far enough that had to have some impact on fueling from cylinder to cylinder.

I also took apart the starter I removed as PM.. I changed the solenoid on this at about 150k, as that's the real reliability concern on these. But it did seem to be turning over a bit slower than I remembered, so I had a new one on the shelf when I tore the thing apart for the head gasket job.

This is what was in the old one.. lots of what I assume was brush debris in the brush housing, even though there appeared to be plenty of brush material and spring throw left.

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