Amy's Build/Repair thread (LC100 XVR - Pic Heavy)

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...and stops me loosing my bumpers...

You're going to fit in here juuuuuust fine. :D

Whereabouts in Qatar are you? I did a rotation in Doha/Al Udeid back in 2005, but that was when I was still driving a riced-out honduh. I hadn't developed an interest in/appreciation of Land Crusiers yet. If I could go back today....holy sh*t I'd be in heaven. Speaking of which, I'd love to see more of the country over there, it was very pretty, albeit hot and extremely humid as I'm sure you can attest to.

I will second what you say about the way the locals drive though, that stuff was nuts driving around in downtown Doha. Scary even. Defensive driving isn't a concept over there - they're all about OFFENSIVE driving. :lol:
 
this is a great thread, thanks for all the details and photos. Looking forward to seeing your build progress.
 
Day 9 - Front Bumper Build

EDIT: up until recently i was under the impression that I would not have an issue with the front and rear bumpers in Qatar. I have however found out that it is illegal and carries a large fine if the cops stop you with one on. I have therefore scrapped the idea of a front bumper but will leave the following few posts up.



I started to mock everything up last night (the winch must weigh 60 kg!!!). Plywood is easier to work with but most importantly its light and cheap.

Once everything fits well I will use it to build some patterns, transfer it to steel, cut it out, tack it together and then find a professional who can do pretty caterpillar welds as opposed to my chicken s*** welding.

Then its off to powder coating and we are A for away. :popcorn:

What thickness steel plate should I be using???

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English / Arabic / Hindi...... math is math and I now carry these wherever I go. I think I have found myself a good machine shop to do the fab for me (I just don't have the time to build up my welding skills to tackle this properly.)

Ill try build the sliders myself as all the welds are hidden.

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I will be using 4mm plate for the front face and side components, 6mm plate for the bottom winch mount, 2" 40 gauge pipe for the hoop and sides. I will mount it with the existing 3 bottom bolts and drill two new horizontal bolt holes that are reinforced in the chassis with spacers.
With everything done is should take out a brick wall.... not sure what is going to happen with the airbags.

The new winch position in 3 inches higher and 2 inches further forward than the stock mount, moving it up and forward gives me a lip to mount a hoop and spots on but pushes it out far less than the Opposite Lock bumper.

THE BAD NEWS: I have been told no one can relocate my AC filter so i am going to have to build around it :(


The big question now is 12mm body lift before bumper is made ???? I don't know if it will be needed? I have the OME on the way with 30ml trim packs for the back and a custom diff drop for the front which should give me at least 2.5" all round.... I think ill give the body lift a miss for now.
 
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Gunney - I think if you design the bumper for a 12MM body lift you would have to make it sit 12MM lower initially and double drill holes that would allow you to raise it in the future. You could also probably add 12MM spacers to your bumper mounting points with longer bolts. It could completely change the mounting design all together I guess. The other alternative is to put something in the small gap that the body lift would leave like a rubber molding strip or trim piece of steel.
 
If you are going with the tires and wheels you mentioned earlier, you might consider making it a 1" body lift... and for sure do the body lift before you fab the bumpers.
 
if you're even thinking about doing the bodylift, just do it now. It's cheap and not hard to do. That way you can build your bumper how you'll eventually want it. Much easier to build it once the right way then have to modify it later.
 
if you're even thinking about doing the bodylift, just do it now. It's cheap and not hard to do. That way you can build your bumper how you'll eventually want it. Much easier to build it once the right way then have to modify it later.

Where were you 6-years ago :flipoff2:

Ditto what's been said. For sliders too.
 
Spresso - Where is the big body lift thread? I've been waiting to see what you have in the bag-o-100-suspension tricks...
 
ahhhhhhh come on! Now I have to find someone to cut polyurathane pucks for me here....... ahhh man this is going to suck :doh:

Will I really need it with 315/75/r17 on rims with an extra 1" back spacing and 2.75" lift on the front with old man emu 866 + 30ml trim packs on the back?

I don't do any rock crawling or trails, only dune driving. I did tones of reading on my before I started all of this and there are guys here with OME suspension, no trim packs and 315's on stock rims....

I did the calculation on my bumper today with the workshop, should come in around 25 / 30 kg
 
MOTHER F***#* all this work to do this week and look what just arrived at my front door. I would be over the moon if I wasn't so pissed off.

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Spresso - Where is the big body lift thread? I've been waiting to see what you have in the bag-o-100-suspension tricks...

Its coming...I'll be field testing all next week :D. Then a thread the following week. So far, though, the 1" body lift effort has been 100% worth it for me! You can choose to increase suspension compression clearance for 35" or to lower the front suspension for more friendly CV and steering end angles...or 1/2 way in between ;)
 
Day 9/10 - Suspension Install

"Rise and rise again, utill lambs become lions"

Ok lets try get to the bottom off all of this for new readers and to try and clear some things up for old readers. Its been discussed a thousand times so here is my take on torsion bars.


To start off with I would like to say that if you sit and read through every thread on this site on torsion bars you are going to end up confused and not very confident about doing the job yourself, if however you get under your truck with some PB blaster, a 22 and 30mm spanner and get cranking you will start to understand how everything works very quickly.

1. Front shock install
2. The names of all the bits
3. How torsion bars work (from a dummy for dummies)
4. How to lift the front of your vehicle
5. How and why we measure droop
6. How to re-index the torsion bars

Here we go

Baaaaaaa

1. Front Shock install

From the top lip of the wheel cap to the fender (with empty tanks and no winch/bumper)

478mm = FR FL = 485mm
485mm = BR BL = 465mm

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Now I’m going to start with the front despite the fact that the winch and bumper are not on. It is the easier of the two jobs with the shocks but the torsion bars seem to confudle most new members so I’m going to go through it very slowly with loooooooooots of photos.

If I get something wrong please correct me so others can learn from my mistakes, this will be my first time.

For the front I have bought 2 new Old Man Emu long travel Nitro Charger shocks. There were no torsion bars in stock, I will probably have to re index my stock ones and use them until I can get OME replacements.

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To start off with I went and got myself some axle stands (yes yes yes… the brick lift is gone  ) I took the opportunity to get myself some nut lock, WD40 (we don’t have PB blaster here) and a 22mm racketing ring spanner, do not underestimate the importance of any of these items. I also filled up both of my tanks.

I jacked the front up and placed the axle stands underneath, then the wheels came off and the jack was used to get the swing arm to the exact height to change out the shocks.

Once that was done (it really is a :banana: job) I decided to crank the torsion bars to their max to see what I could get out of them without having to re-index them (wasn’t in the mood for a huge job in this heat, and wanted to learn about how they worked before I re-indexed them).

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I didn't get much out of the bolts (1 turn on the right and 2 on the left)

Considering the front bumper and winch are not yet installed and the back, which is currnetly at 485mm is going to go up by 3" I will be re indexing the bars ( I plan to have a 1" rake and 50mm droop as per recommendations)

It turned out that they didn't have enough thread in them to get them to the right height so I was in for some work to re-index the bars. I took the opportunity to educate myself and maybe a few others.

Torsion bars

2. The names of all the bits

Print off this picture and go and crawl under your car, the torsion bars are the 1.5m long bars that run form the back of your swing arms to the chassis just below the back doors.

A = don't worry about A, don't touch A
B = Adjusting Bolt/Nut
C = Adjuster arm / Anchor Arm
D = Torsion Bar
E = Tourque arm / T-Bar Bracket / torsion bar anchor plate (mounted to the lower control arm)
F = Spines
G = Rust that is going to give me a headache next weekend

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3. How torsion bars work (from a dummy for dummies)


Imagine holding a piece of string in both hands, if you twist one end one way, and the other end the other way the piece of string beings to coil up. If you then let go both ends it will uncoil. This is exactly what your torsion bars do, except they are big chunks of steel.

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Now apply the same principal to the torsion bar, the back of the bar is clamped firmly to the vehicle and the front twists up and untwists as the front wheels go up and down. When the car is sitting stationary on the ground there is some preloaded spring in the bars (it is this spring we are messing with when we lift the car with the adjuster nut. The blue line) then as the wheels are compressed up, the twist is built up (red arrow) and as the wheels go down the twist is released (green arrow).

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We need that little bit of negative (red arrow) twist in the bar when the car is stationary otherwise when the car goes over a bump and the wheels lift up the bar will have no twist left in it and it will pull the tyres off the floor. This is why that 55mm of droop is so important! it is also why we adjust and re-index the bars with no load on the front, so that as we drop the car back down the bars get that bit of preload from the weight of the vehicle.

4. How to lift the front of your vehicle

Ok so now that we know how the torsion bars work it should be pretty easy to work out how to get the front of the vehicle up while standing still.
First things first, measure the distance from the centre of the hub to the wheel arch. This is your starting measurement.

Now we need crank the bars to put more twist in them, so that they will push down on the swing arm more. Have a look at the picture below. We want the swing arm to be pushed down (orange arrow), to do this we need more green arrow twist in the bar (think about twisting that bar and how it will push the swing arm down), to do this we need to push up at the new purple arrow because black is a fixed point.

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Fortunately pushing up at the purple arrow is easy because Toyota has given us a bolt to crank that will push it up. Now have a look at the picture below of the LC’s bar and how it relates. Turning this bolt clockwise will push it up increasing the twist on the bar and turning it anti clockwise will release some of the twist in the bar.

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Once you have jacked the front wheels up off the ground, using a white out pen draw a line from the middle of the bolt B onto the bracket is crews into, this way you will be able to count the turns as you crank away at the bolt (you can see from my picture that my bolt has had one quarter of a turn clockwise).

Give it about 3 or 4 full rotations clockwise, drop the vehicle back down and measure the distance from the centre of the hub to the wheel arch again. Hey presto, you just lifted the front of your car!!! (you’re not done yet keep reading)

5. How and why we measure droop

Remember this “We need that little bit of negative (red arrow) twist in the bar when the car is stationary otherwise when the car goes over a bump and the wheels lift up the bar will have no twist left in it and it will pull the tyres off the floor. This is why that 55mm of droop is so important!”

Well now that you have lifted your car up and put a whole lot of green arrow twist in the bar you need to make sure there is still some left for when the car goes over a bump.its easy just follow these instructions.

• Measure the distance from your hub to the wheel arch.
• Start to jack up your car from the chassis
• As your tyre lifts of the ground stop and measure the distance from the hub to the wheel arch

If the difference between the two measurements is 55mm or more you are ok, if its less, you need to drop the vehicle down a little by unscrewing bold B a bit.

6. How to re-index the torsion bars


If you have done all of the above and have not been able to get more than 500mm between your hub and wheel arch it’s probably because you have cranked away at bolt B all you can but it is now all the way in, and you can’t crank it any more. (sucks to be you because now you have to re index your bars)

I’m not going to go into the why for this it will get too complicated so just follow the below instructions.

1. PB blast everything, especially both ends of the TBars, and mark the bars where they go into the housing at the front with a whiteout pen, like you did with bolt B)

2. Unscrew these two nuts

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3. Move back to the adjuster bolt, Bolt B, and start to unscrew it, it’s going to take ages and when you are losing all your strength and the will to live your about half way there. Squirt lubricating spray onto the top of bolt B to make your life easier.

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4. Don’t undo it all the way just until it is very loose, then start wiggling your T-bar back and forth until you can separate the bar form this housing. Let this housing slide back onto the bar.

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5. What you now want to do is get a big cable tie and tie it nice and tight where you see the white line below, in doing so you are pushing this part of the bracket right up against its housing (white arrow) and as a result the other end of the bracket will be pushed down against the adjuster bolt (blue arrow).

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6. With the back secured you can line up the front housing for the bar and slide it back over the spines and re-bolt it to the swing arm. Line the housing up with the bolts and then slide it onto the spines towards the spring arm. you can use the initial markings you made with the whiteout pen to see how much each bar has rotated.

Remember the back is in its ideal position to get the most out of the bars. (now I’m a bit of a monster at 6,2” and 120kgs and while I didn’t need a breaker bar at any stage of the process this little “hold the bar and slide on the bracket song and dance nearly killed me)

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7. Once you have done that you can tighten up everything, put a few cranks into your adjuster bolt and you will see that you have loads of thread left to do any adjusting you need.

(I’m sorry I didn’t take better photos it was just so greasy and hot and I wanted to get it done. When I swap our the bars for OME ones I will take some better photos)

Hope this helped, and to those of you who are still confused the best piece of advice I can give you is to print this off and get under your truck, it will all start to make sense.

anyone who thinks any of my comments are incorrect please let me know and i will edit them :flipoff2:


:cheers:

you don't get photos untill the back is in and she is sitting level :popcorn:
 
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this :princess: is starting to cost me some serious money. Tyres, wheels, bumper, jack stand, spanners, suspension, switches, balancing, alignment, spots, AC, wiring.... oh man :rolleyes:
 
Some info and pics from Qatar

There have been a few request for some info on Qatar, the crusier scene and all that so here are some pics from when I visited the folks to do a reckie last June

Some pics of the crazy as all hell arabs and the dunes where we play on enduro bikes and cruisers.

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dunes down at the inland sea
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like I said crazy Arabs.... (just Youtube Qatar crash, you'll see what I mean) someone needs to teach them "straight up and straight down" as well as "slow is smooth and smooth is fast"
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this bowl will have three times the number of vehicles it has in this pic by the time the sun sets, most of the cars just sit and watch the buggies and quads go crazy, a few cars take part.
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2x4 pickups do synchronized drifting
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sand rails
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thermometer says it all
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a friend of mine went and bought this after it sat int he showroom for 7 months, he manages to keep up with those of us on 450's... he is a damn good rider.
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yahhhh... not quite ;)
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all the cops get V8 cruisers
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the driveway before I arrived
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a bit of national pride. every now and then you pull up to a nice looking lady in the traffic who smiles at you when she sees the flag!
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teaching my old man how to drive in sand
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learning to judge entry and exit angles... and to look out for hidden dips. (as the sun moves to the middle of the sky, there are no shadows on the dunes and you will not see a 1m drop off untill you go over it... a very quick way to flip the car.

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Day 11 - Rear shocks and Springs

Rear Suspension

:banana::banana: job

Time for the back to go up.

I do it a bit differently to some of the guys, I like to have 3 wheels on the ground and only mess with one side (personal preference) so my step by step is a bit different.

STEP 1

Get everything you need together. You cannot do this swap without some kind of lubricating spray (KY isn’t going to cut it) a 22mm ratcheting ring spanner and a strap wrench.

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Prep all your suspension bits, no one has ever bothered to post this so this is what the bushing setup should look like on the top of the shock (I suppose you can just copy the shock as you remove it from the vehicle). Also don't be afraid of removing that steel bar compressing the shock, its not going to spring open and take your hand off. just twits one side of the shock one way and the other side the other way and it will pop off. You can put it back on buy just pushing the shock down onto the ground until it has compressed enough.

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Then you also need to note that the N101 shock goes on the back and has a rubber bushing you have to push into place with a vice, and the N100 goes in the front and has no rubber bushing.

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I have taped the coil pack to the top of the coil so I don’t have to fiddle around with it while I am trying to put it in.

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I also go very confused about A and B coils and then where they tagged for use in a LHD or a RHD country so I called a mate and he said “just put the longer one in the side with the gas tank” (so I did)

Once your outside take a proper measurement of your stock setup:

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STEP 2


Before you jack up the vehicle, loosen all the bolts that are going to give you a headache, if your spare tyre is in I suggest you remove it (use the opportunity to check it for damage and its pressure). You can use the strap wrench on the top of the shock and just cable tie the 22mm spanner into place. You achieve the same thing, it’s just easier to get some weight behind the strap wrench.

You will also want to completely remove the bolt on the sway bar (the second you start to jack the car up there will be pressure on the joint that will make life difficult. I also loosened the bottom of the shock.

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STEP 3


Jack up the car from the chassis (not the axle) and remove the wheel. You will see that the shock is at its full length and its going to be difficult to remove it this way, so put an axle stand under the axle and lower the vehicle back down until the shock is in a neutral position.

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STEP 4

Remove the lower shock bolt and try to pull the shock off its mounting, it
probably won’t come off.

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There is a pretty good theory to moving things, if you can “leaver it or jack it, strap it” (don’t read into that) so if it doesn’t come off grab a ratchet strap and use that to get it off, if you don’t have a ratchet strap you can tie a loop of rope, put a spanner in the middle and twist the spanner.

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STEP 5

Put a jack under the axle (please use a better jack and jack point than the one I chose) and lift the axle of the jack stand. Remove the jack stand and slowly
lower the axle on the jack…. Make sure you are watching all the cables and wires to make sure you’re not stretching anything.

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You should now have enough space to pull out the spring, so go ahead and do that.

Then get that 22mm racketing spanner onto the nut on top of the shock, cable tie the spanner in place and twist the top of the shock by hand to unscrew it.

STEP 6

Reverse the process, installing everything as you go.
then do the other side :p

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