A cheaper Diesel swap-a-roo??? Your thoughts please.

[dieselcruiserhead]

Speedometer is not working and I have it turned up... way up Headgasket is luckily fixed. Came from using starting fluid Anywhoo, I bet I am closer to 25 mpg. Honestly I still don't have a speedo that works, you don't have a spare do you?

 

[cpip]

Here’s a little different experience with the 6.2L: I’ve got an ’82 Winnebago with a 6.2L diesel. It will power the 27’ RV just fine on fairly flat terrain at 60-65 mph. However, I’m the guy going 25 mph going up the mountain pass since the TH400 has to shift into 2nd gear. No complaints with the reliability. I’ve only replaced the starter in the four years and 30,000 miles I’ve owned it. I get about 10-11 mpg.

 

[Bahndo111]

Just ordered my 6bt. Gotta do the spring over first and finnish collecting all the little parts to make the dream a reality. I have to figure out how I am going to beef up the front springs to handle the weight. I was thinking of just getting some spring off of a dodge or a ford but lately I have been wondering if I can take the spring pack apart, pull the less effective springs and replace with some add a leafs or some other springs out of another Fj. any ideas? as soon as I start the pic's will follow.

 

[Tapage]

Just ordered my 6bt. Gotta do the spring over first and finnish collecting all the little parts to make the dream a reality. I have to figure out how I am going to beef up the front springs to handle the weight. I was thinking of just getting some spring off of a dodge or a ford but lately I have been wondering if I can take the spring pack apart, pull the less effective springs and replace with some add a leafs or some other springs out of another Fj. any ideas? as soon as I start the pic's will follow.

how much weight you get with the 6BT engine . ?

 

[dieselcruiserhead]

My guess is 1200-1300 lbs. I have upped my weight guess for the 4BT, more like 900 lbs so slightly heavier than the 2F because I forgot the 2.5" thick flywheel weights 100 lbs easily..

 

[Tapage]

My guess is 1200-1300 lbs. I have upped my weight guess for the 4BT, more like 900 lbs so slightly heavier than the 2F because I forgot the 2.5" thick flywheel weights 100 lbs easily..

WWWWOOUUU .. ! 1200 - 1300 Lbs .. is a good number .. I thought my 2H as much, 800 lbs .. and is heavy .. tooo heavy ..

 

[Bahndo111]

We'll see!

 

[nikos8]

So if you install a 6BT and a winch bull bar, what kind of springs will you need? I guess the OME Dakars are out of the question.

 

[Bahndo111]

I am thinking stock springs off an F-250. They are pretty flat and support that hefty powerstroke. Does anybody have any laying around?

 

[esh]

You can do multiple overload leafs on the pack. There were 3 OME overloads on the rear of an expedition HJ61 I've seen that had 61 gallon fuel capacity, cargo storage and roof rack.

 

[HZJ60 Guy]

I just spoke with a friend who had a Suburban 6.5 up in Canada. He went through three injector pumps in a year and a half. He got rid of it because the next pump would have been out of warrenty.

Bummer.

 

[dieselcruiserhead]

So if you install a 6BT and a winch bull bar, what kind of springs will you need? I guess the OME Dakars are out of the question.

You can build the crap out of a set of even OME's. Get the heavies then add two long skinny add a leaves. They are usualyl rated for about 200 lbs each (step on them to find out) and x2 for each leaf and you have an extra 400 lbs of carrying weight, so it should handle the 6BT fine I'd think... Or get stronger add-a-leafs. The 60 on my site with the 6BT has OME springs that were beefed up...

 

[oldman]

...Have you or has anyone else thought about a Dodge (Cummins 5.9 L) in a Cruiser?

Someone, don't remember who, on the List put a Cummins in a 60 about 5 years ago. I don't know/remember how it turned out.

 

[Bahndo111]

You can build the crap out of a set of even OME's. Get the heavies then add two long skinny add a leaves. They are usualyl rated for about 200 lbs each (step on them to find out) and x2 for each leaf and you have an extra 400 lbs of carrying weight, so it should handle the 6BT fine I'd think... Or get stronger add-a-leafs. The 60 on my site with the 6BT has OME springs that were beefed up...

Andre- is it possible to get OME's that aren't going to give me more lift then the stock springs? Can I beef up the stock springs with somoe OME add-a-leafs? I really want to keep the lift to a minimum but still have enough room for the 6 and some 35's. Do you still have those 20 ply's , those are sweet looking, maybe a bit harsh for a DD

 

[dieselcruiserhead]

Are you talking about SUA or SOA? If SUA you will want the lift and you would need it to fit the Cummins regardless, sorry. Trust me you'll love it regardless. You'd also need the lift for the 35s, or a SOA. For the SOA I think any add-a-leaf will do.. hope it helps! Andre

 

[Bahndo111]

Going spring over. I figure with as much lift as I am going to need to fit the engine I might as well just throw the springs on top. That is why I want some pretty flat spring with a good spring rate. I don't want to go with arched spring and have the weight flatten them out, they will just fatique and before I know it I'll have some negative archs and my oil pan resting on the axle. The ideal situation would be if I could pull the spring pack from the cruiser and rebuild it with springs with higher spring rates. My question is does anybody know where to get add-a-leafs for stock fj60 springs?

 

[Tapage]

My question is does anybody know where to get add-a-leafs for stock fj60 springs?

NIce and easy .. MAF

http://www.man-a-fre.com/parts_accessories/addaleafsprings.htm

buy the longs ones ..

 

[dieselcruiserhead]

Do you still have those 20 ply's , those are sweet looking, maybe a bit harsh for a DD

Unfortunately long gone and they are hard to find.. They are honestly not that harsh at all, super streetable actually and very smooth and quiet, I swear. Much quiter than even MTR's! I got my rig easily over 90 with them! Looks like you saw my thread on pirate, pay close attention to the SOA leaf conversation, pretty much has all of my input. If you get add-a-leafs, I would say get them dearched or buy some that are close to flat as their design (for example mini truck applications).. The MAF ones don't cut it, unless they are dearched, otherwise you are looking at close to 8" of lift, and you may get raped on shipping, plus the cost of having them dearched.. I would find a local spring shop, I bet they carry Toyota width. They is what I did for mine. Add-a-leaf is an add a leaf as far as I'm concerned as long as they are long, somewhat soft (about 200-250 lbs load carrying, step on them to test load and determine based on your weight (I am 230). As long as they are not too stiff and/or too thick you are fine. I run two in the rear and one up front, per spring and feel like I am close to OEM (or maybe even higher) load carrying ability, but SOA. Hope it helps! Andre

 

[cpip]

Are you talking about SUA or SOA? If SUA you will want the lift and you would need it to fit the Cummins regardless, sorry. Andre

Just to clarify. A 4bt swap is possible with SUA and a 4" lift? I got some 4" springs in the box of parts that came with my '69 FJ40. Would prefer to go that way at least at first. Save a little cash and time.

 

[Tapage]

Just to clarify. A 4bt swap is possible with SUA and a 4" lift? I got some 4" springs in the box of parts that came with my '69 FJ40. Would prefer to go that way at least at first. Save a little cash and time.

sure 4" of lift . .. I thought the answer is yes ..