6th Gen 4Runner news and rumors

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I know the Pro/Trailhunter monikers are more marketable to the broverlander crowd, but I'm kinda surprised there's no Gazoo Racing trim for either.
 
I know the Pro/Trailhunter monikers are more marketable to the broverlander crowd, but I'm kinda surprised there's no Gazoo Racing trim for either.

My understanding: If it has a frame and sold in the US, TRD. Otherwise, GR.
 
so it is official now.
The only TNGA-F product to still use the 1GR-FE is the LC300.

The other TNGA-F product that still uses a naturally aspirated engine for selected markets and specs is the 250...can you guess what engine?
 
so it is official now.
The only TNGA-F product to still use the 1GR-FE is the LC300.

The other TNGA-F product that still uses a naturally aspirated engine for selected markets and specs is the 250...can you guess what engine?
twin-turbo three-banger? just kidding.
 
twin-turbo three-banger? just kidding.
To give a serious answer to a silly comment, turbocharging for an inline engine (like an inline 3 or 4 cylinder) is typically designed with a single turbo. I don’t know how you would engineer a twin turbo 3 — one turbo serving 1 cylinder and the other serving the remaining two?

Typically twin turbos are used when you have a V engine, like the V6 on the Tundra/Sequoia/LX.
 
To give a serious answer to a silly comment, turbocharging for an inline engine (like an inline 3 or 4 cylinder) is typically designed with a single turbo. I don’t know how you would engineer a twin turbo 3 — one turbo serving 1 cylinder and the other serving the remaining two?

Typically twin turbos are used when you have a V engine, like the V6 on the Tundra/Sequoia/LX.
I was going to say "sequential" turbos, but that just seemed too much nonsense on an already nonsense post. wasn't expecting the analysis. but true.
 
I’m surprised they didn’t neuter the 4R like the LC and put in a Turbo V-Twin Hybrid. “But it has more torque!” That engine note would sound awesome coming through the rear window down! 🪰🪰🪰🪰🪰🪰
 
It's interesting where the hybrid battery is being shown to sit (basically at the feet of the 2nd row).

I thought it was above/just in front of the rear wheels in the cargo area?

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That layout (battery) looks more like the Tacoma. 4runner definitely has the raised cargo area. I did not specifically look/ask as I had bo reason to assume it would be different given the bump?

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Just watched the launch videos. I know Alex is going to want to trade their 2016 in when they can afford to. Personally I prefer the 250 series. Prados have always been my favorite Land Cruiser.
 
A transplant in a very modern car is probably all but impossible given the aircraft-like electronics. Nothing would work properly. N/A big motors are unfortunately going the way of the dodo
Not necessarily, it just adds a whole additional layer of making adapters and such to interface with the digital dash. Assuming the signals are rhe same and just the pinout changes it may not be as big of a deal as one might think if you can source oem connectors and such. Especially with the 300 series being sold with the 1GR 4.0 V6.

I am Instrumentation Engineer so this seems like a fun engineering challenge.
 
wonder if we'll see 4.0L V6, or 4.7L V8 transplants.

Why would you want to do this?

Not necessarily, it just adds a whole additional layer of making adapters and such to interface with the digital dash. Assuming the signals are rhe same and just the pinout changes it may not be as big of a deal as one might think if you can source oem connectors and such. Especially with the 300 series being sold with the 1GR 4.0 V6.

I am Instrumentation Engineer so this seems like a fun engineering challenge.

Since it's offered in a TNGA-F platform in other markets, it would likely be a task of getting the complete wiring harness and ECUS that need to go along with it. I bet Toyota 1 makes 1 digital dash that is fed by the various ECUS...

Probably not all that difficult, but again, why?

The cost involved in getting the parts, wiring harness, etc from a truck in a market where the GRJ300 is sold would be so high you could likely buy a new OEM crate T24A-FTS and turbo system and keep it in your garage, ready to go. You could probably have the T24A punched out, cylinder lined and have Brian Crower make a stroker kit. I think a stroker project with forged crank, rods, and a compound turbo system would be MUCH more interesting than using a 20 year old motor design.

Then theres is the legal aspect of putting an older motor into a newer car, especially if you live in an emissions compliant part of the US.

I just do not understand the hate on a Turbo-4 cylinder. Toyota has proven themselvs more than capable of making reliable and powerful turbocharged vehicles. And all of the 'heros' of the Turbo motors were 70s and 80s designs (13/14/15B-T, 3S-GTE, 2JZ-GTE, 1HD-(F)T(E), the list goes on).

Manufacturing, materials and QA have all improved over the last 40-50 years and I bet that this new T24A will be at LEAST as reliable as the 22RE, 2UZ, or 1GR have been.

That said, I won't be an early adopter and won't commit to buying the new platform until it has had 2 or so years to marinade in the market.
 
Why would you want to do this?



Since it's offered in a TNGA-F platform in other markets, it would likely be a task of getting the complete wiring harness and ECUS that need to go along with it. I bet Toyota 1 makes 1 digital dash that is fed by the various ECUS...

Probably not all that difficult, but again, why?

The cost involved in getting the parts, wiring harness, etc from a truck in a market where the GRJ300 is sold would be so high you could likely buy a new OEM crate T24A-FTS and turbo system and keep it in your garage, ready to go. You could probably have the T24A punched out, cylinder lined and have Brian Crower make a stroker kit. I think a stroker project with forged crank, rods, and a compound turbo system would be MUCH more interesting than using a 20 year old motor design.

Then theres is the legal aspect of putting an older motor into a newer car, especially if you live in an emissions compliant part of the US.

I just do not understand the hate on a Turbo-4 cylinder. Toyota has proven themselvs more than capable of making reliable and powerful turbocharged vehicles. And all of the 'heros' of the Turbo motors were 70s and 80s designs (13/14/15B-T, 3S-GTE, 2JZ-GTE, 1HD-(F)T(E), the list goes on).

Manufacturing, materials and QA have all improved over the last 40-50 years and I bet that this new T24A will be at LEAST as reliable as the 22RE, 2UZ, or 1GR have been.

That said, I won't be an early adopter and won't commit to buying the new platform until it has had 2 or so years to marinade in the market.
I have been waiting patiently for a turbo 4. After having a lightly modified twin scroll turbo, the Borg Warner K03 completely broke my expectations of torque from engines less than 100 cu in, let alone ~140 cu in.
 

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