Just wanted to say a final thanks to the guys who helped me get this project done. I made a batch of the 62 double, 60 double, and 62 single that would be the size needed to at least break even on my investment. I have now already sold two of the 3 batches completely and the last few 62 cup holders should sell by the end of the weekend. Have not made a dime yet but at least I didn't lose on this project. I have had a few losers in the past. Hopefully I will be able to add these to my "success" list soon. New batches of all 3 designs are already going and my site is being restocked every couple days. Again, thanks for the support, help, and willingness to try a new product. it's time to move on to other projects. One more check off the list.