33's vs. 35's for my 80 Series (1 Viewer)

[Marco Lau]

35s if you regear. Here is a pic of both. 33s on top and 35s MT on bottom. My pooch approves my 35s =)

 

[JWolfi]

After i put that same lift on I was stuck in the same place of 33s v 35s. I thought i was splitting the difference and went 295s which is almost 34. As far as looks is concerned its 35s at least with the 80 series, 37s are better. I might skip 35s all together and just run 37s for my next tire. The point is you will probably regret it unless you go bigger, I know I do

 

[swankstar]

I looks awesome. That back left driver tire is really tucked up in the wheel well. Are you saying there’s no touching there as well? I also noticed you took your flares off/fendors. Is that because they were hitting?

No touching anywhere on that thing. I took the flares off because I didn't like how they looked, wouldn't be an interference if I had left them. Sold a friend some Method 9" wide rims for his LX450 and they stuffed too.

Of note, I do not have any bump stop extensions anywhere, and do not have interference. I do have the @deltavs radius arms up front, which are narrower than the stock ones.

Edit: definitely a difference in getting up to speed and going over long passes, etc with the 35s though. BUT, once I get UP to 70/75, I can usually keep it there without issue.

 

[half k cruiser]

35s if you regear. Here is a pic of both. 33s on top and 35s MT on bottom. My pooch approves my 35s =)

What lift and tire/size in that top pic?

 

[Marco Lau]

What lift and tire/size in that top pic?

Icon 3" w/ 30mm spacers all around. 315/75/r16 Goodyear MT/R

 

[Cruzerman]

My advice would be to go with 33's. Doesn't really sound like you're going to use this rig as a mostly trails rig. So that means lots of on-road time. IMHO, rigs with 33's drive way better on the road. Unless you are putting in trail time (not logging / forest service roads), you will be better served by 33's. I feel if you're not sure you need it, you don't.

 

[Pierce]

I have the same as @Marco Lau except the spacers are on my driver’s side.

Definitely lost some power when going 33” to 35”. 4.88’s are my next mod. 33” tires look tiny with a 3” lift.

Top is 33” bottom is 35”

 

[UOnlyLiveOnce]

From a guy that has gone from stock to 33s to now 35s........go 37s Mr UOLO!

Good information to know. I think I’m going to change my name to UOLO. That’s creative. And much shorter. I’m a survivor of two cancers and a lot of treatment. Almost 5 years out now. So that’s why I am UOLO.
I wish I would’ve thought of that before you did. Thanks

 

[fhaze]

I currently have 2 FZJ 3x locked Cruisers, one is supercharged on 305/75/16's and the other is NA on 315/75/16's. They drive like completely different vehicles.
I'll be swapping the 35's to the SC truck soon. I have buddy that wants us to do a drag and roll race from the vehicles as they are now. We may do that

 

[UOnlyLiveOnce]

1) Rubbing will be of no concern, especially with 3'' of lift that you have.
2) You will lose a noticeable amount of power on both highway and going up hills. ( more on this in a moment )
3) Your mechanic is correct. It will drive much better with 33's then 35's. Less strain on everything, easier to get balanced, cheaper, more options that aren't E rated, etc.

So here is how I come to my conclusions. At any given point today I can go outside my house, and depending on which key I have chosen, drive an 80 series with either 31's,33's or 35's. The one on 33's is my daily, 31's a project vehicle, and 35's is what goes on trips and occasionally gets driven around on errands. There is a very noticeable difference to me when going from any of those tire sizes. The one with 35's even has 10% high range reduction, and, while helpful, still can't keep up with the 33 equipped rig on the same exact roads. I think what happens on here with opinions is that you get guys who have driven nothing but a rig equipped with 35's or bigger, or driven it for so long that they simply don't remember or know any better.

Of course it's all perspective based. You may be perfectly fine getting on the gas all the time to get out of peoples way. Or maybe you don't really care to set your cruise and have it hold speed on long hills out on I-70. I've taken my 35 equipped 80 through some fairly knarly stuff, the one with 33's would have made it through all the same places and just required a little more care with tire placement. To me the weight of the 315's, plus the fact that they are mostly all E-rated, coupled with the .5 - 1 '' gain in ground clearance just isn't worth it.

I completely understand what you were saying. One thought too is that you usually have to drive a long distance to get somewhere great to go wheeling and over landing. So very often you’re on along Highway dry before you get to your room turn off. That being said it’s nice to have a tire that I can handle the highway yet still do extremely well Off road and keep up with those trucks use and 35’s. My 80 has 280,000 miles on it but is running very well and my mechanic took care of two leaks recently including the front axle seals.
I’m sure a 33 would be easier on an older engine as well.

 

[UOnlyLiveOnce]

My advice would be to go with 33's. Doesn't really sound like you're going to use this rig as a mostly trails rig. So that means lots of on-road time. IMHO, rigs with 33's drive way better on the road. Unless you are putting in trail time (not logging / forest service roads), you will be better served by 33's. I feel if you're not sure you need it, you don't.

Excellent advice. If I go on long distance trips such as 6 to 12 hours I will take my fourth generation Toyota 4Runner 2004 that is my best and favorite vehicle. it has the V-8 in it which is a beast Off road. I have the KO2’s on it which have Proven to be very reliable and tough.
Actually my Land Cruiser I only plan on using it off road. I don’t care to go into an area that has rocks over 1 1/2 feet tall.

 

[UOnlyLiveOnce]

Actually my Land Cruiser I only plan on using it off road. I don’t care to go into an area that has rocks over 1 1/2 feet tall. I definitely like to go on rough trails that most people won’t go on but I’m also not going to crawl over rocks over 1.5 to 2 feet and break my axles or other components. So if I plan on only using it for off trail use maybe I should go with the 35s. I use my 4Runner as a daily driver and my tundra as my work truck

 

[UOnlyLiveOnce]

I have the same as @Marco Lau except the spacers are on my driver’s side.

Definitely lost some power when going 33” to 35”. 4.88’s are my next mod. 33” tires look tiny with a 3” lift.

Top is 33” bottom is 35”

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Thanks for sharing those two photos I really helps me decide. The larger tires as everyone says definitely look better on the Land Cruiser. Tough decision but commonsense says go with a 33’s but by ones cry once also leads me to want to do the 35s., Especially since I plan on to use it only for over landing and road trips. It’s not going to be my daily driver.

 

[UOnlyLiveOnce]

After i put that same lift on I was stuck in the same place of 33s v 35s. I thought i was splitting the difference and went 295s which is almost 34. As far as looks is concerned its 35s at least with the 80 series, 37s are better. I might skip 35s all together and just run 37s for my next tire. The point is you will probably regret it unless you go bigger, I know I do[/QUO
You are with the majority. Most people are saying go to the 35s, that does say something.

 

[greentruck]

Most of my 40+ years of wheeling were done before the 80, including on my old FJ55. Nothing bigger than a 31" between them. Running the 33s in my sig line now. I rarely turned back anywhere a size or two taller tire would've made the difference. You'll be much better served 90%+ of the time with the 33, which fits fine on stock and will have no issues with a 3" lift.

If you do spend a lot of time on the trail, you should consider bigger. But also consider your budget. 33s are bolt it on and forget. Go bigger and you have a great capability, but costs start start escalating rapidly. If that is money you planned on spending, then not an issue.

 

[rockstate45]

33s WILL be better on road because it’s a little smaller, maybe a little lighter, etc. but I think that’s fairly subjective. Once you calibrate yourself to a tire, you won’t notice it. For me, my 80 has enough power on 35s and hasn’t left me wanting more power than switching back to 33s would. Granted, I live in pancake flat KS but have taken it to CO twice.

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[Rifleman]

My advice would be to go with 33's. Doesn't really sound like you're going to use this rig as a mostly trails rig. So that means lots of on-road time. IMHO, rigs with 33's drive way better on the road. Unless you are putting in trail time (not logging / forest service roads), you will be better served by 33's. I feel if you're not sure you need it, you don't.

I agree with the above, plus I'd like to add one other point. If your miles from home out on the road, and you happen to damage a tire. And the only place close by to find a replacement is a small town, you'll stand a much bigger chance of finding the more common size 33, then say a 35, or 37.

 

[Tools R Us]

Actually my Land Cruiser I only plan on using it off road. I don’t care to go into an area that has rocks over 1 1/2 feet tall. I definitely like to go on rough trails that most people won’t go on but I’m also not going to crawl over rocks over 1.5 to 2 feet and break my axles or other components. So if I plan on only using it for off trail use maybe I should go with the 35s. I use my 4Runner as a daily driver and my tundra as my work truck

Why would you have to break stuff to deal with rock bigger that 2'? It's true that things can be broken, some seem to enjoy it. The key is getting seat time, learning the truck, pretty quick rocks are not as scary as some like to promote and are a fun driving skill. Most breakage is from poor driving, inexperience, pushing the rig places it shouldn't be, etc. Step up challenge levels incrementally, as you start to understand and most of it can be avoided.

Put the 37"s on mine in 2007, so over 160K miles ago, have done over 100 trail days in most years, Because of what we do, often don't know what kind of trail we will find, so have done lots of rock play. All of the axles are stock, recently one birf started slightly clicking, so swapped it for a used spare. The right knuckle has been apart twice, one stud problem and then the clicking birf, the left side got birf soup at ~200K mi, so resealed. Nether diff has been out, most of the drive line parts are how they came from the factory. For the amount of wheeling abuse it has suffered. it has been amazingly solid and reliable.

 

[baldilocks]

Good information to know. I think I’m going to change my name to UOLO. That’s creative. And much shorter. I’m a survivor of two cancers and a lot of treatment. Almost 5 years out now. So that’s why I am UOLO.
I wish I would’ve thought of that before you did. Thanks

Then you should definitely go to 42’s while we cheer you on and watch intently as the story unfolds. 40’s are just too 2017...... and pics are worth more than words around here.

 

[ChaseTruck]

Just watching this from the cheap seats - how many pages do you guys think you'll need to settle this?

Here's the solution: we've put 315s on both our LX and LC. The secret is that they are Maxxis tires - these 315s are actually only something like 33.5" tall - and that was at 32 or so psi, when they were new. So now everyone can see the we're running 315s... see where this is going?

Disclaimer: I usually 'wheel my K5 Blazer - on 37s...