2F Motor placement

[60/40GUY]

Is the 2F motor in a FJ60 at an angle? With the front of the motor shifted to the drivers side? I was taking some measurments for a 1HZ swap and was amazed at what I found. The front of the motor is shifted about 5 inches to the drivers side. I did not drive the FJ60 too far (may be 150 miles) before taking the truck apart but it drove OK. And the frame and engine mounts don't look bent or broken. All of the body parts had no alignment issues as well.

Thanks for any info.

Frank

 

[jm599]

with the front clip off and when viewed from 10 feet, it appeared to be at least 5 degrees to the drivers side, but I don't think 5 inches,

I think they do it on purpose to deter engine vibrations being transferred to the ride.

 

[3_puppies]

if you look at the front motor mounts off the block, the driver side is shorter in length than the pass side
I don't think it's 5 inches either

 

[agent orange]

Does it flop around when you rev the carb?

 

[60/40GUY]

No the motor mounts are good.

Should I mount the 1HZ at the same angle?

 

[CruisinFJ60]

it sits slighty off center for the drivetrain. id prolly but the other motor in there either the same or similar to help avoid potential problems.

but i dont really know.

 

[Mace]

It is not at an angle, it is offset to the DS (on USA, no clue about non usa stuff)

the frame angles in slightly, so the frame appears to be farther away on the rear than on the front..

 

[CruisinFJ60]

now see i didnt know the frame angled at all.

i learned something new today!

 

[60wag]

The crank is definitely parallel to the centerline of the truck, offset to the driver side but parallel.

 

[60/40GUY]

Thanks for the infomation guys. When I pull the body off maybe it will look like the drive train is parallel to the centerline of the frame. It should be easier to figure out at that point.

Thanks again.

Frank

 

[roscoFJ73]

No the motor mounts are good.

Should I mount the 1HZ at the same angle?

Attach your gearbox to the 1HZ and bolt it to the crossmember and the gearstick should be approx central to hole in the floor, then go to the new mounts.
The engines final position can then be determined by the engine mounts and where they sit in relation to the frame.
For example if you rotate the engine too much ,the mounts will be high on one side,low on the other.
You cant be out far if the gearbox is bolted to the crossmember which is bolted to the vehicle

You can see how the 1HZ fan is central and the crank pulley is over to the left frame rail.
I dont think mine are welded when this pic was taken but it is ready.
The radiator shrouds also give you an idea how things will sit(the new one is the 1HZ )

I used HZJ75 engine brackets that I cut off a wreck so it had to be in the right spot.
After I bought my HZJ75,I compared my work with the 75 and the position is almost exact

The FJ60 is slightly wider between the frame rails but it should turn out similar

 

[hks3sgte]

The angle of the engine has to be as it was when on the original vehicle. That angle has a lot to do with how the oil drains back to the oil pan

 

[Mace]

The angle of the engine has to be as it was when on the original vehicle. That angle has a lot to do with how the oil drains back to the oil pan

That angle is front to back. And typically is only a couple of degrees.

Not side to side.

 

[roscoFJ73]

That angle is front to back. And typically is only a couple of degrees.

Not side to side.

Yes ,to check the height you can get a measurement of the distance between the oil pan and diff from a 70
The 60 and 70 share a lot of components like suspension and engines and even though the 1HZ was never sold in a 60 ,it will fit very nicely

 

[60/40GUY]

My plan was to make some kind of a pointer that bolted to the frame and located the center of the main crank bolt on the 2F. Then bolt up the gearbox to the crossmember. Move the center of the crank bolt on the 1HZ to the pointer. Then weld the motor mounts in place. Any way that was my plan. That is how this whole angle thing started. But as of right now I'm still putting the 1HZ together.

Oh yea. Rosco, in your pics your steering box is on the wrong side.

Thanks for the help.

Frank

 

[60/40GUY]

Rosco,

One more thing. Could I use the radiator from the 60. HZJ75 parts are hard to get around here. It would be easy to make a shroud. Would I run into any cooling problems? You guys know a bit about heat down under.

Thanks again.

Frank

 

[roscoFJ73]

Rosco,

One more thing. Could I use the radiator from the 60. HZJ75 parts are hard to get around here. It would be easy to make a shroud. Would I run into any cooling problems? You guys know a bit about heat down under.

Thanks again.

Frank

Yes you can use the 60 radiator but note the HZJ75 has a an extension on the bottom tank.

The outlets face the same way ,well sort of
The 1HZ do heat up under hard going, like high speed and hard driving offroad.

I would use the 60 series radiator and see what happens.
VT cruiser did it that way and I dont think he has had any problems