Whoo hoo 12 days to go 
cant wait 
keep going matt it wont be long now 
cant wait keep going matt it wont be long now 
Builds 2F + (3F-E) = 2FETI Into My FJ40 (2 Viewers)
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That looks like an octopuss humping your valve cover. cool.
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Worked last night 2 hours sleep and into it, working tonight too
Off Thursday though to go see the Rouge Traders in concert 
Ok water lines to the Turbo are in, this steel braided hose is a nightmare to get into the fittings if you don't cut absolutely clean Just the oil feed to do, that S/braided hose I had to order.
Matt's tip of the day clamp steel braided hose in a hose clamp and tighten over the point you wish to cut. Clamp the tightening screw in the vice on the hose clamp leaving the hose and clamp completely exposed and then with the angle grinder and a slitting disc cut through the hose clamp in the center and the steel braided hose all in one. Perfect cut oh yes you will need a hose clamp for each cut
Also fitted the hose tails to the inter cooler ready for piping up.
Todays bad news is I have to switch to day shift next Monday and Tuesday so I will lose 2 day while on a course and Wednesday will see mw busy loading a container with a FJ 45 and a Troopy as well as a 45 Cab So I may now delay the start a week depending on how well the rest of the week goes. All these little jobs are soaking up more time than expected
Off Thursday though to go see the Rouge Traders in concert Ok water lines to the Turbo are in, this steel braided hose is a nightmare to get into the fittings if you don't cut absolutely clean
Just the oil feed to do, that S/braided hose I had to order.Matt's tip of the day clamp steel braided hose in a hose clamp and tighten over the point you wish to cut. Clamp the tightening screw in the vice on the hose clamp leaving the hose and clamp completely exposed and then with the angle grinder and a slitting disc cut through the hose clamp in the center and the steel braided hose all in one. Perfect cut oh yes you will need a hose clamp for each cut
Also fitted the hose tails to the inter cooler ready for piping up.
Todays bad news is I have to switch to day shift next Monday and Tuesday so I will lose 2 day while on a course and Wednesday will see mw busy loading a container with a FJ 45 and a Troopy as well as a 45 Cab
So I may now delay the start a week depending on how well the rest of the week goes. All these little jobs are soaking up more time than expected
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matt.mcinnes
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Well after a good study of the cooling system and where to return the turbo's water line too I elected to go to the top housing of the thermostat rather than attempt to T into one of the hoses.
So drilled and tapped and ready to be re fitted.
So drilled and tapped and ready to be re fitted.
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matt.mcinnes
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The thermostat is back on an connected to the turbo, the heater lines are all done including the oil cooler. All that's left now is the top and bottom radiator hoses and fast becoming the baine of my life the water pump by pass hose got a nice new one from Toyota and it did not fit due to using the 3FE thermostat bottom part of the housing by about 25mm/1".
The hose I/D of 22mm also seems to be odd ball so even after sitting for a whole hour with the hose catalogue going though every make and model I still have no solution.
All the old wiring has been addressed except the head lights.
All in all a pretty productive day apart from the by pass hose
got a nice new one from Toyota and it did not fit due to using the 3FE thermostat bottom part of the housing by about 25mm/1".The hose I/D of 22mm also seems to be odd ball so even after sitting for a whole hour with the hose catalogue going though every make and model I still have no solution.
All the old wiring has been addressed except the head lights.
All in all a pretty productive day apart from the by pass hose
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Trying to picture this on my head but have you got both the water cooler lines for the turbo in the thermostat housing? One above the thermostat and one below it? Will that work as when the thermostat is open, wont both lines be getting simlar pressure from the water pump so might not circulate as little pressure difference? Cant you take it like the LPG conversion with in and out of the heater core for instance?
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The turbo only needs water really to cool it when it's just been shut down and it's heat soak is at it greatest with no oil flowing. You can run these with out the water lines connected. Oil however is essential. It's not an ideal way of connecting it but the water in the lines act to dissipate the heat away from the turbo once shut down and the water pump is off then anyway. So really its hot water rises replaced by cooler water. Turbo timers allow the turbo to cool off before you shut the engine down but this is more to do with time than extra water flowing through it. Turbo timers are great as long as you are not upside down at comp, I have seen a couple of engines destroy themselves after the ignition has been turned off after a roll only for the turbo timer to keep it running, OOOOPPPPPS and most you can't override once the turbo timer has taken over.
We will not be running a turbo timer
You have the expertise around you, I'm sure for someone to build a loop of metal hard line. Off of that make one end to fit the thermostat and the other to fit the water pump. I think there would be room. Just come up off the waterpump fairly straight up, then make a loop up and around towards the alt. and then come back in level to the thermostat. Then you will have little chunks of hose connecting it.
Might be funky looking, but it would work, and would probably be easier than sourcing the molded hose.
Looking good though, intercooler mount is pretty neat. You had mentioned earlier that the hood may have to be modified, but it looks like you got everything tucked in very nicely.
Might be funky looking, but it would work, and would probably be easier than sourcing the molded hose.
Looking good though, intercooler mount is pretty neat. You had mentioned earlier that the hood may have to be modified, but it looks like you got everything tucked in very nicely.
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I'm starting to hate plumbing
The Mazda 121 radiator and thermo fan have an inlet and out let of odd sizes but that was ok we machined the intercooler splitters to suit. The Craig David water pump had an assortment of couplings and sizes, not one matches the radiator or the inter cooler pipe
So I will machine a few couplings to suit changing from one hose size to another and a custom coupling for the pump
The rest of the day has been good LPG system is out, need to call Possum Hunter for a qutoe, top bloke and even better work for a section to fill where the gas tank was.
Radiator in just the top mounts to make to secure it.
Can't do any more now until Wednesday next week so the time will be used to machine the pipe couplings and source a suitable fuel surge tank.
Day shift for 2 whole days grrrrrrrrr board silly on a course
The Mazda 121 radiator and thermo fan have an inlet and out let of odd sizes but that was ok we machined the intercooler splitters to suit. The Craig David water pump had an assortment of couplings and sizes, not one matches the radiator or the inter cooler pipe
So I will machine a few couplings to suit changing from one hose size to another and a custom coupling for the pump
The rest of the day has been good LPG system is out, need to call Possum Hunter for a qutoe, top bloke and even better work for a section to fill where the gas tank was.
Radiator in just the top mounts to make to secure it.
Can't do any more now until Wednesday next week so the time will be used to machine the pipe couplings and source a suitable fuel surge tank.
Day shift for 2 whole days grrrrrrrrr board silly on a course
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matt.mcinnes
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Just Petrol.
Adelaide will be a while.
Adelaide will be a while.
The turbo only needs water really to cool it when it's just been shut down and it's heat soak is at it greatest with no oil flowing. You can run these with out the water lines connected. Oil however is essential. It's not an ideal way of connecting it but the water in the lines act to dissipate the heat away from the turbo once shut down and the water pump is off then anyway. So really its hot water rises replaced by cooler water. Turbo timers allow the turbo to cool off before you shut the engine down but this is more to do with time than extra water flowing through it. Turbo timers are great as long as you are not upside down at comp, I have seen a couple of engines destroy themselves after the ignition has been turned off after a roll only for the turbo timer to keep it running, OOOOPPPPPS and most you can't override once the turbo timer has taken over.
We will not be running a turbo timer
Awesome build Matt
My turbo timer has a manual override/stop on it. Once you get used to it you don't have to even think about it to operate it.
Most of the "comp roll over/ not turning off/ blowing motor up" incidents are with diesels. The oil in the motor drains out of the rocker cover into the intake manifold and the motor runs on its own oil until it blows up or you can stall it in gear, which is very hard to do when you wheels are in the air.
I am a huge diesel fan but for comps and hard core wheeling I prefer fuel injection or LPG as they handle extreme angles better than the diesels for this fact. Of course if you ran a dry sump any would do
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Will re route one of the lines to the oil cooler outlet this should suit better.
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Awesome build Matt
My turbo timer has a manual override/stop on it. Once you get used to it you don't have to even think about it to operate it.
The turbo timer on the ECU is not override-able so I won't be using that one off road. As you say diesels are more of an issue when they start to feed on there own oil, where as petrol is more to do with running with no oil pick up.
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Ok first up postie came today I was going to post up on the original thread but it's locked, hear will do just as well.
The official 2F-ETI start up key nothing can go wrong now
TKS mmw68
Also made up the new bracket for holding the throttle cable. Stainless
I was going to post up on the original thread but it's locked, hear will do just as well.The official 2F-ETI start up key nothing can go wrong now
TKS mmw68
Also made up the new bracket for holding the throttle cable. Stainless
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G'day Matt,
Not to detract from all of your fine work thus far, but that key chain is absolutely terrific!! Where did you get it? Do I need to go to Melbs to pick one up, or are they purchasable on the web? There is no way anything can go wrong now with a key chain like that.... too easy.
Cheers,
Josh
Not to detract from all of your fine work thus far, but that key chain is absolutely terrific!! Where did you get it? Do I need to go to Melbs to pick one up, or are they purchasable on the web? There is no way anything can go wrong now with a key chain like that.... too easy.
Cheers,
Josh
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My accelerator pedal works again Scary
What a busy day a Troopy and a 45 are USA bound along with a 45 cab or at least the bottom half. With that out of the way and my 2 day course over it's back into mine, fitted the new bracket to hold the throttle cable before piping up all the in's and out's of the intercooler to the 4 way splitters, just got to finish the main pipes of to the Craig David pump and rear radiator. Hopefully tomorrow.
Scary What a busy day a Troopy and a 45 are USA bound along with a 45 cab or at least the bottom half. With that out of the way and my 2 day course over it's back into mine, fitted the new bracket to hold the throttle cable before piping up all the in's and out's of the intercooler to the 4 way splitters, just got to finish the main pipes of to the Craig David pump and rear radiator. Hopefully tomorrow.
