2024 GX/Prado Release and Discussion (3 Viewers)

[Squirrel]

These guys seem pretty sure about the engine:

L4T is – without a shadow of a doubt – the standard powerplant for the United States. A 2.4-liter turbo four-cylinder lump shared with the mid-sized Tacoma, said engine produces 228 horsepower in the SR and 278 for all other grades. The 2024 model year Tacoma further boasts a hybrid-assisted 2.4er, which is officially rated at 326 horsepower and 465 pound-feet (630 Nm).

2024 Toyota Land Cruiser Prado 250 Series Teased Again, New Renderings Follow Suit

There's a brand-new Land Cruiser waiting to pounce, and this one's coming to America as the lesser brother of the 2024 Lexus GX

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I’m not complaining about pricing, but if the Land Cruiser has a 4 banger that’s a no go for me. 65-70k vehicle (at least) after options. I’m a buyer at that price point all day long, but I expect the vehicle to perform well. I’ll accept that v8s are transitioning to v6s, but there’s no way a 4 cylinder is going to have enough power for the weight of the vehicle. Or- Toyota is going to strip down the Land Cruiser (from the gx550) so far that it isn’t competitive at a $70k price tag.

I bought a 2014 200 new. I’m interested in the new land cruiser, but we’ll see what it looks like.

 

[ThRiLlGmYr]

I’m not complaining about pricing, but if the Land Cruiser has a 4 banger that’s a no go for me. 65-70k vehicle (at least) after options. I’m a buyer at that price point all day long, but I expect the vehicle to perform well. I’ll accept that v8s are transitioning to v6s, but there’s no way a 4 cylinder is going to have enough power for the weight of the vehicle. Or- Toyota is going to strip down the Land Cruiser (from the gx550) so far that it isn’t competitive at a $70k price tag.

I bought a 2014 200 new. I’m interested in the new land cruiser, but we’ll see what it looks like.

I definitely do not think the 4 cyl Turbo will sell for $60k base. $55k at the most. And that would be the Max engine.

 

[Phillyd2]

I’m not complaining about pricing, but if the Land Cruiser has a 4 banger that’s a no go for me. 65-70k vehicle (at least) after options. I’m a buyer at that price point all day long, but I expect the vehicle to perform well. I’ll accept that v8s are transitioning to v6s, but there’s no way a 4 cylinder is going to have enough power for the weight of the vehicle. Or- Toyota is going to strip down the Land Cruiser (from the gx550) so far that it isn’t competitive at a $70k price tag.

I bought a 2014 200 new. I’m interested in the new land cruiser, but we’ll see what it looks like.

Same. Specifications are much more important to me than price but no judgement on anyone in a different position – as I’ve been there most of my life.

That said, I've not driven any of the newer TTs (4 or 6) so keeping an open mind, sort of.

 

[TexasFunRunner]

I’m not complaining about pricing, but if the Land Cruiser has a 4 banger that’s a no go for me. 65-70k vehicle (at least) after options. I’m a buyer at that price point all day long, but I expect the vehicle to perform well. I’ll accept that v8s are transitioning to v6s, but there’s no way a 4 cylinder is going to have enough power for the weight of the vehicle. Or- Toyota is going to strip down the Land Cruiser (from the gx550) so far that it isn’t competitive at a $70k price tag.

I bought a 2014 200 new. I’m interested in the new land cruiser, but we’ll see what it looks like.

I've been digging around to see if I could find any other early information, I came across one conversation on the Bronco forum claiming someone with first hand knowledge said it will be the TTV6. I can't corroborate the information, but thought it was interesting to pass on, everyone has to judge this one for themselves.

[QUOTE - "CTS-V, post: 1999541, member: 8128"]
It’s a twin turbo 6.
[QUOTE - "CTS-V, post: 1999927, member: 8128"]
Because I may or may not have an inside source who may or may not have test driven the new LC this week.

UPDATE: My Plano Source confirmed that was a bad tip, no TTV6 for the LC.

 

[ypyun]

2024 tacoma limited review

i think it will have the same hybrid powertrain as the tacoma. the transfer case looks similar to the one in the new limited tacoma which is also a full time 4wd.

 

[MeWantLC]

I just think it's funny that people are aching to spend 75k on a Prado. You can get a GXR 300 series for that in every other market.

Prados really need to be compared to perjeros and other vehicles in the class.

You missed the point. We ain't aching to spend $75k on a Prado, in fact, I will walk away if it comes at that price. Yes, we can get the GXR but not here , which is what matters because oh well, we live here. .

Yes , Prados comparisons are the Pajeros and the likes... And same, we don't have them here !!! Very unfortunately I must sadly add

 

[ThRiLlGmYr]

You missed the point. We ain't aching to spend $75k on a Prado, in fact, I will walk away if it comes at that price. Yes, we can get the GXR but not here , which is what matters because oh well, we live here. .

Yes , Prados comparisons are the Pajeros and the likes... And same, we don't have them here !!! Very unfortunately I must sadly add

I think it is a mistake to keep dismissing this new LC as just a Prado. This is a new truck. The GX 550 is a huge improvement on the GX 460 and I am confident this new LC250 will be a big improvement over the old Prado.

 

[MeWantLC]

Trying to upload a video.

 

[MeWantLC]

 

[MeWantLC]

Hope it works.

It really looks like a divided tailgate . No ?

 

[M1911]

If I wanted an extra vehicle that was dedicated to trail duty then no doubt I would pick a Wrangler or Bronco with 2 doors.

I'd probably get a Razr.

 

[M1911]

The gx460 sorta of proves my point, nobody is buying them, they sell 1/5 the amount of that 4runners sell because lexus operates off the premise of reduced capability at a premium price.

They've been selling 25 - 30,000 per year in the US. Certainly not 4Runner numbers, but nothing to sneeze at, particularly when LC 200 was selling about 3,500.

 

[ThRiLlGmYr]

I suspect it is a faux split tailgate. I think it will be exactly the same as the GX functionally.

 

[M1911]

I’m not complaining about pricing, but if the Land Cruiser has a 4 banger that’s a no go for me. 65-70k vehicle (at least) after options. I’m a buyer at that price point all day long, but I expect the vehicle to perform well. I’ll accept that v8s are transitioning to v6s, but there’s no way a 4 cylinder is going to have enough power for the weight of the vehicle.

My 2013 Land Cruiser has the V8, which is rated at 380 hp and 401 ft-lb of torque. That's more than enough power for me, given it's nearly 6,000 lb weight.

The hybrid 4-cylinder in the 2024 Tacoma is rated at 326 hp and 465 ft-lb of torque. That torque will come in at lower rpms than the V8. It will have more than enough performance for the weight of the vehicle. The open questions are 1) how good is the NVH and 2) how is the reliability? But the power will be fine.

My wife had a 2012 Mercedes C300 with the 3.0 V6. That was lovely engine that produced enough power and had great NVH. I was a bit disappointed when that her 2020 C300 came with a turbo 4. But after driving it, I have to say that the turbo 4 is a better engine than that V6. It has more torque at lower rpms. The car is significantly faster off the line and it scoots without ever getting into high RPMs. If you do get into high RPMs, then, yes, the NVH isn't as good. But you rarely need to. And the turbo 4 gets better fuel economy as well.

I would certainly miss the V8, but I disagree with your statement that a turbo 4-cylinder would not have enough power. In fact, at high altitudes a turbo-4 would likely be producing HP well in excess of the naturally-aspirated V8.

 

[doublethebass]

My 2013 Land Cruiser has the V8, which is rated at 380 hp and 401 ft-lb of torque. That's more than enough power for me, given it's nearly 6,000 lb weight.

The hybrid 4-cylinder in the 2024 Tacoma is rated at 326 hp and 465 ft-lb of torque. That torque will come in at lower rpms than the V8. It will have more than enough performance for the weight of the vehicle. The open questions are 1) how good is the NVH and 2) how is the reliability? But the power will be fine.

My wife had a 2012 Mercedes C300 with the 3.0 V6. That was lovely engine that produced enough power and had great NVH. I was a bit disappointed when that her 2020 C300 came with a turbo 4. But after driving it, I have to say that the turbo 4 is a better engine than that V6. It has more torque at lower rpms. The car is significantly faster off the line and it scoots without ever getting into high RPMs. If you do get into high RPMs, then, yes, the NVH isn't as good. But you rarely need to. And the turbo 4 gets better fuel economy as well.

I would certainly miss the V8, but I disagree with your statement that a turbo 4-cylinder would not have enough power. In fact, at high altitudes a turbo-4 would likely be producing HP well in excess of the naturally-aspirated V8.

Good call to compare it to the LC 200

 

[ThRiLlGmYr]

My 2013 Land Cruiser has the V8, which is rated at 380 hp and 401 ft-lb of torque. That's more than enough power for me, given it's nearly 6,000 lb weight.

The hybrid 4-cylinder in the 2024 Tacoma is rated at 326 hp and 465 ft-lb of torque. That torque will come in at lower rpms than the V8. It will have more than enough performance for the weight of the vehicle. The open questions are 1) how good is the NVH and 2) how is the reliability? But the power will be fine.

My wife had a 2012 Mercedes C300 with the 3.0 V6. That was lovely engine that produced enough power and had great NVH. I was a bit disappointed when that her 2020 C300 came with a turbo 4. But after driving it, I have to say that the turbo 4 is a better engine than that V6. It has more torque at lower rpms. The car is significantly faster off the line and it scoots without ever getting into high RPMs. If you do get into high RPMs, then, yes, the NVH isn't as good. But you rarely need to. And the turbo 4 gets better fuel economy as well.

I would certainly miss the V8, but I disagree with your statement that a turbo 4-cylinder would not have enough power. In fact, at high altitudes a turbo-4 would likely be producing HP well in excess of the naturally-aspirated V8.

Reliability is by far my biggest concern. I actually prefer the 4 cylinder I Force Max over the TTV-6 because of the added uses of the battery. Of course I would like the TTV-6 Iforce Max the most.

I would not be surprised if those are the two options eventually.

 

[malden]

This thread has devolved into a hope over experience train wreck with no victory in sight. We have just lived through 18 months of 7% inflation. Have you checked the price of anything these days? Well many of you are going to be shocked by 2024 car prices across the board when they come out. We may even see top trim 4Runners pushing close to $60K much less a brand spanking new, newly engined and full of tech LC250.

My suggestion is to get a better job, make better investments, sell your house, send your kids to trade school instead of University, ditch the cat and dog, keep the wife, no Club Med with the Mistress, eat lentils and soy, but dig deep for some cash because you are going to need it to buy the new LC250! $65-$75K or more on par with the top trim GX maybe a couple grand less. Plan for it. If it turns out to be a bit cheaper, great.

If you can’t cover the cost of the new LC get a 2023 4Runner. Heck you can get two 4Runners for the price of a Defender!

 

[MeWantLC]

This thread has devolved into a hope over experience train wreck with no victory in sight. We have just lived through 18 months of 7% inflation. Have you checked the price of anything these days? Well many of you are going to be shocked by 2024 car prices across the board when they come out. We may even see top trim 4Runners pushing close to $60K much less a brand spanking new, newly engined and full of tech LC250.

My suggestion is to get a better job, make better investments, sell your house, send your kids to trade school instead of University, ditch the cat and dog, keep the wife, no Club Med with the Mistress, eat lentils and soy, but dig deep for some cash because you are going to need it to buy the new LC250! $65-$75K or more on par with the top trim GX maybe a couple grand less. Plan for it. If it turns out to be a bit cheaper, great.

If you can’t cover the cost of the new LC get a 2023 4Runner. Heck you can get two 4Runners for the price of a Defender!

I can definitely see where you live or are from :

Club Med gave it away !

Hahahahahah....

Ditch the wife, keep the Club Med for you know who...

 

[MeWantLC]

I suspect it is a faux split tailgate. I think it will be exactly the same as the GX functionally.

I haven't seen in person the GX... Is it faux ? .

Oh well...

Maybe another reason to keep the LC200 and the 80.

 

[ThRiLlGmYr]

I haven't seen in person the GX... Is it faux ? .

Oh well...

Maybe another reason to keep the LC200 and the 80.

99% sure this will be your LC250 tailgate.