2023 GX questions (2 Viewers)

[jdam]

Do I expect a 5 MPG increase for the new GX? No. But there has to be some increase, especially for them to help market the new engine. If there isn't, then what is the purpose? To game the dumb federal regulations? What I do know is that Docyota was able to get that MPG on a trip he took. It just shows its possible. Hell, I have averaged 22 MPG on a couple of long highway trips in my 5.0 V8 F150.

From what I understand from the Tundra hybrid drivetrain, it's not necessarily marketed as an efficiency adder. It's to help maintain whatever efficiency it can while adding more power and drivability. The new drivetrain is more powerful, has better lower end torque (due to electric motors) and still manages a +1 MPG increase. A lot of that can be attributed to the non-ancient transmission, but it's supposed to be a better package overall (even without a V-8).

 

[GrizzlyClint]

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Not my numbers. Docyota's numbers from this thread: Just drove an LX600 F-sport - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/just-drove-an-lx600-f-sport.1279367/page-4.

When you drove the Tundra, did you drive your normal way? Or did you try it out and see what kind of oomph it had? Either way, there is something off with the Tundra/Sequoia. I haven't seen anyone report any significantly better MPGs (and I don't count going from 12 MPGs to 15 MPGs better. That is just bringing the Tundra up to a level that the other trucks have been at for years).

Do I expect a 5 MPG increase for the new GX? No. But there has to be some increase, especially for them to help market the new engine. If there isn't, then what is the purpose? To game the dumb federal regulations? What I do know is that Docyota was able to get that MPG on a trip he took. It just shows its possible. Hell, I have averaged 22 MPG on a couple of long highway trips in my 5.0 V8 F150.

But anyway, I have gotten into the MPGs more than I wanted to because that alone is not a deciding factor for me. When we get a look at the '24 GX and it looks like crap or a dealer gives me a great deal on a '23, I will have no problem pulling the trigger on a '23 with a V8.

I drove it the same way as I do with my GX.

 

[GrizzlyClint]

From what I understand from the Tundra hybrid drivetrain, it's not necessarily marketed as an efficiency adder. It's to help maintain whatever efficiency it can while adding more power and drivability. The new drivetrain is more powerful, has better lower end torque (due to electric motors) and still manages a +1 MPG increase. A lot of that can be attributed to the non-ancient transmission, but it's supposed to be a better package overall (even without a V-8).

The one I drove wasn't a hybrid. It was dog slow off the line.

 

[jdam]

The one I drove wasn't a hybrid. It was dog slow off the line.

I read Platinum and immediately thought it was the top spec model. I forget that it isn't any more.

 

[r2m]

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Not my numbers. Docyota's numbers from this thread: Just drove an LX600 F-sport - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/just-drove-an-lx600-f-sport.1279367/page-4.

When you drove the Tundra, did you drive your normal way? Or did you try it out and see what kind of oomph it had? Either way, there is something off with the Tundra/Sequoia. I haven't seen anyone report any significantly better MPGs (and I don't count going from 12 MPGs to 15 MPGs better. That is just bringing the Tundra up to a level that the other trucks have been at for years).

Do I expect a 5 MPG increase for the new GX? No. But there has to be some increase, especially for them to help market the new engine. If there isn't, then what is the purpose? To game the dumb federal regulations? What I do know is that Docyota was able to get that MPG on a trip he took. It just shows its possible. Hell, I have averaged 22 MPG on a couple of long highway trips in my 5.0 V8 F150.

But anyway, I have gotten into the MPGs more than I wanted to because that alone is not a deciding factor for me. When we get a look at the '24 GX and it looks like crap or a dealer gives me a great deal on a '23, I will have no problem pulling the trigger on a '23 with a V8.

Just arrived in Tahoe a few days ago through blizzards and averaged about 16 mpg over 15 hours of driving.
If anyone is not familiar with my rig, here you can see just how much I'm hauling and wind resistance: Builds - R²M 2013 GX 460 Overland Build - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/r-m-2013-gx-460-overland-build.1104719/
And those pictures don't even show all the recovery gear, tools, etc. on board. To say the least, I'm heavy and on 35" tires.

 

[Hivetyrant]

The one I drove wasn't a hybrid. It was dog slow off the line.

People love the V8's and hate the idea of anything and I totally understand, the fake engine noises are ridiculous but to say it's under powered, slow or not smooth is bizarre. I have a 22 tundra limited and it's a blast to drive, economy sucks around town but on highway it easily hits 22mpg.

Would I prefer to take my GX offroad? Absolutely, the tundra is huge and hard to maneuver, though the rear diff locker is a nice addition.

We'll see if it has the long term reliability, but there's no doubt it's here to stay.

 

[Tex68w]

One touch signals do not exist on these trucks, nor do they on my 2020 Land Cruiser. It is indeed quite silly but it's equally as silly to consider not purchasing vehicle because it lacks that feature.

The economy is slowing, rates are up, inflation is up and big layoffs are already happening so there will be some carry over in terms of consumer spending. That said, the GX's fly off the shelf on their own so short of a $750-1000 rebate from the factory I wouldn't expect much in the way of a discount any time soon. The 22-23 GX460 is the best GX they've ever made and I would grab one before you no longer can. Should the 550 be better in most ways then you can trade the 460 in at a later date but should you wait to see the new one and end up disappointed all you'll be left with are used 22/23 GX460's.

 

[GXO]

The 2022+ is the win on a GX if you want new and latest. The turn thing is annoying and I haven't looked into it on ours yet. I do have it on the 2003 GX470 lol. I just added a SmartTap to the relay and repinned the harness it needs to work and I have it on there (and no hyperflash with LED turn bulbs). They don't offer a solution for 2022+ and likely won't as it also kills the DRL function.

 

[bryan8252]

One touch signals do not exist on these trucks, nor do they on my 2020 Land Cruiser. It is indeed quite silly but it's equally as silly to consider not purchasing vehicle because it lacks that feature.

The economy is slowing, rates are up, inflation is up and big layoffs are already happening so there will be some carry over in terms of consumer spending. That said, the GX's fly off the shelf on their own so short of a $750-1000 rebate from the factory I wouldn't expect much in the way of a discount any time soon. The 22-23 GX460 is the best GX they've ever made and I would grab one before you no longer can. Should the 550 be better in most ways then you can trade the 460 in at a later date but should you wait to see the new one and end up disappointed all you'll be left with are used 22/23 GX460's.

I understand your point. But to be annoyed every time I tap the turn signal to switch lanes in a $60k vehicle might be a deal breaker.

I would think, based on your argument that the economy is slowing, inflation is up and layoffs are occurring, that there will be a time when you can get a GX under MSRP by a decent amount. Of course, this may involve some luck and being in the right place at the right time. Some of the GX models I have been looking at have been on the dealer lot since January.

The 2022+ is the win on a GX if you want new and latest. The turn thing is annoying and I haven't looked into it on ours yet. I do have it on the 2003 GX470 lol. I just added a SmartTap to the relay and repinned the harness it needs to work and I have it on there (and no hyperflash with LED turn bulbs). They don't offer a solution for 2022+ and likely won't as it also kills the DRL function.

Even if there was an aftermarket fix for this I could live with it.

 

[nautiquelover]

I would also say to pull the trigger on the 2023 GX while you can. Those V8s and that overall platform is tried and true, and that reliability is exactly why you buy a Toyota/Lexus over some other brand with more bells and whistles. From your comments above though, it seems like you would be more inclined to purchase either another brand or wait to see the redesign. My tip is if you want reliability and an old-school package, the 2023 GX is the way to go. I also agree with just buying one now and waiting until the 2024 comes out. You can always trade it in if you want it and depending on the new 2024, yours might be more valuable to those who want the V8. I don't think it's a bad decision either way, but I'd rather have it now than wait on a "rumor" about what the new one is going to be like.

 

[bryan8252]

I would also say to pull the trigger on the 2023 GX while you can. Those V8s and that overall platform is tried and true, and that reliability is exactly why you buy a Toyota/Lexus over some other brand with more bells and whistles. From your comments above though, it seems like you would be more inclined to purchase either another brand or wait to see the redesign. My tip is if you want reliability and an old-school package, the 2023 GX is the way to go. I also agree with just buying one now and waiting until the 2024 comes out. You can always trade it in if you want it and depending on the new 2024, yours might be more valuable to those who want the V8. I don't think it's a bad decision either way, but I'd rather have it now than wait on a "rumor" about what the new one is going to be like.

If anyone knows of another SUV that rivals the reliability of Toyota/Lexus, please speak up. I'd be willing to check it out. But the reason I started looking at Lexus was the reliability. Toyota is included in that reliability, but I can't find a Sequoia to test drive, and I am not interested in any of their other SUVs or trucks.

I am not in a rush to buy so I am going to wait and see if I can finagle a good deal on a '23 GX Blackline sometime over the next few months. I expect to purchase before the summer, then, like you and Tex68w mentioned, I can always reevaluate and trade/sell it if the next generation GX is a home run.

 

[DWF]

After a five month wait I took delivery of my 2023 GX Premium about a month ago. I was coming from 2019 GX Premium. I wanted the latest version before they went away. I was a little reluctant to make the switch given my 2019 only had 20K miles on it. Having spent a month with the 2023 I am extremely happy with my decision. The 2023 is a significantly nicer vehicle and more of an upgrade than I expected. The infotainment system is a nice upgrade--Apple Car Play. Moving the heating/air controls out of two levels down in the menu system and on to the dash eliminated one of the biggest complaints I had with the 2019. The 2023 is significantly quitter with now acoustic glass on the side windows (I was surprised how much difference this makes). The 2023 has better headlights, tire pressure monitoring, heated steering wheel, heated rear seat and several additional safety features--the 2019 had none of this. I'm not sure what Lexus did to tweak the suspension but the 2023 has a noticeably better ride over rough surfaces. All in all I couldn't be happier. I got a great trade on the 2019 and lost little money over a four year period. If you like this platform and you want the most refined version the 2023 is the one to get.

 

[r2m]

If anyone knows of another SUV that rivals the reliability of Toyota/Lexus, please speak up. I'd be willing to check it out.

I'm willing to bet that one of the Korean manufacturers may soon be on par, if they ever build a true body on frame off roader.

 

[Tex68w]

After a five month wait I took delivery of my 2023 GX Premium about a month ago. I was coming from 2019 GX Premium. I wanted the latest version before they went away. I was a little reluctant to make the switch given my 2019 only had 20K miles on it. Having spent a month with the 2023 I am extremely happy with my decision. The 2023 is a significantly nicer vehicle and more of an upgrade than I expected. The infotainment system is a nice upgrade--Apple Car Play. Moving the heating/air controls out of two levels down in the menu system and on to the dash eliminated one of the biggest complaints I had with the 2019. The 2023 is significantly quitter with now acoustic glass on the side windows (I was surprised how much difference this makes). The 2023 has better headlights, tire pressure monitoring, heated steering wheel, heated rear seat and several additional safety features--the 2019 had none of this. I'm not sure what Lexus did to tweak the suspension but the 2023 has a noticeably better ride over rough surfaces. All in all I couldn't be happier. I got a great trade on the 2019 and lost little money over a four year period. If you like this platform and you want the most refined version the 2023 is the one to get.

I didn’t realize that they put the acoustic double pane glass in them as well. I went out and checked ours and sure enough they did. We had it in our 2019 LX570 and it definitely made a difference in comparison to our LC. While I can say that it’s nice to have in the GX I’m not sure how much quieter I notice it being as the cabin is still not as quiet as the LX or LC.

 

[URJ150L]

When did they start doing the glass?

 

[Tex68w]

I am guessing in MY 2022, but it's possible that it started as far back as 2020. I had a 2019 previously and it didn't have it back then. Maybe those with a '20 and a '21 could check their front windows as well?

 

[ypyun]

acoustic side windows was added in 2021. 2021 gx 460 press release

 

[GXO]

You could wait for the 180 on the Toyota side which will translate to the new GX in the next two years.

 

[Thed351W]

I had my GX in at the dealer for an oil change yesterday and I had the guys peek in their Techstream and they weren't able to find the tap-to-pass function on my '22.

Disappointed I was. Apparently it's a pretty controversial feature with Lexus buyers. People either love it or hate it. If only there was a way to enable/disable it through the cluster or infotainment system like every other manufacturer.

I left the dealer a little fussy claiming that I'll rewire the whole damn car if I have to. I probably won't go that far but this is definitely not the last time I'll be looking into this.

 

[Acrad]

There has been a 3 flash mod for 10-19 models for years. This did bypass aspects of the trailer wiring IIRC. That being said I believe the flash functions got built into the cluster display and or associated ECU from '20+.

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