2015 LC or 2013 LX570? (1 Viewer)

[txtortoise]

Assuming about the same cost and dealer purchase, any other key considerations beyond the following:

2013 LX (20K miles; circa $65-68K)
- Has AHC (consider a good thing for now.
- 100K warranty and Lexus service
- Virtually no 'build' options

2015 LC ($71K-72K)
- New car, Only 3YR/36K warranty
- No prior history issues
- Overland build opportunities
- 18" wheels

 

[kreiten]

if ya ever want to do any mods etc go with the LC! plus they look way better, IMO...

 

[BTUMAN]

If you are going to mod, just get one a few years old. The amount you save will pay for the mods. Mileage really does not mean that much on these.

 

[studawg]

LC

 

[Tripledave]

LC

 

[MScruiser]

LC, baby!

 

[Sinister]

LC

 

[vitaliy]

LX 570 all the way.... AHC + Lexus service are hard to beat in real life.... Also, arguably better initial components as Lexus IS a premium brand in line-up...

 

[Canyonero]

Depends on what you're going to do with the truck. From your post I'm guessing mostly mall-crawler (don't mean to offend, just my impression) in which case I'd suggest the LX.

If you're going to actually use either truck at or near the edge of their capability, the Land Cruiser is a no-brainier.

I have a 2015 Lexus and a 2015 Land Cruiser and I will readily admit I'm nervous about ever taking the LC to a Toyota dealership. The Lexus dealership experience (at least where I live) is incredible. They certainly instill confidence.

Luckily for me I can take my precious LC to Slee for any and all service.

 

[WildYoats]

Recently went through this decision myself, purchased a Land Cruiser a few days ago.

I'll echo what @Canyonero stated about Lexus service having owned an IS-F a couple years ago....Lexus service is amazing and cannot be compared to many others. But, since these are still Toyota/Lexus vehicles, we hope there won't be many trips to the service department anyway. Yes, Lexus oil changes are more, but they have sandwiches in their waiting room vs. popcorn at Toyota

Aside from that, here are a few more tidbits of comparison facts I recently jotted down between the two:


200 Series Land Cruiser vs. Lexus LX570 Differences (2013 MY's)

EXTERIOR

· Every body panel is different minus the doors (may be just the front doors).
· Lighting (front & rear) is different as well.
· Overall length: LX 197” vs. LC 194.9” (wheelbase is the same)Gain is purely body panels (grille/bumpers)
· Weight (gross): LX 7385 lbs, LC 7275 lbs

INTERIOR

· Lexus has a completely different dashboard configuration. Center console is also completely different.
· Lexus’s gauge cluster is entirely different, very Lexus’esque with white led needles and laser blue surround lighting.
· Stereo is enhanced with the Lexus’ “Mark Levinson” stereo (but if you do a 2013 LC, the upgraded JBL system rocks too)
· Leather quality is supposedly premium in the Lexus
· Rear (third row) seating in the Lexus is power-folding operated
· Interior dimensions are nearly the same, with the largest variance being Lexus’ front hip room at 58.8” vs the Land Cruiser at 59.4” and cargo volume: LX 83.1’ ft vs. LC 81.7’ (cargo volume to seat 1)

CONVENIENCE

· LX has a rear power lift-gate, LC does not
· Neither have opening rear side or back windows (sorry fido) :-(

ENGINE

· LC = 381HP 401tq (87 octane)
· LX = 383HP 403tq (91 octane)

SUSPENSION:

· LC = KDSS system, no AHC (AHC is a hydraulic system, not pneumatic as thought by many)
· LX = AHC, no KDSS system. AHC drives much differently in my opinion.

TOWING CAPACITY

· LC = 8500 lbs
· LX = 7000 lbs

WHEELS

· LC = 18” stock
· LX = 20” stock

WARRANTY

· TOYOTA: 3 YRS/36,000 Miles, 5 YR/60,000 Powertrain
o TOYOTA CERTIFIED: 1 YR/12K mile comprehensive, 7YR/100k mile powertrain, 1 yr roadside

· LEXUS: 4 YRS/50,000 Miles, 6 YR/70,000 Powertrain
o LEXUS CERTIFIED: 3YRS from purchase or 100k comprehensive, loaner car, roadside assistance, trip interruption service

FUEL CONSUMPTION (EPA RATINGS)

· LC 13/18
· LX 12/17

MANUFACTURING:

(From BENO, IH8MUD)

"The LC200 for the NA market comes from the Tahara Plant, a bonafide Toyota plant where they make the 4Runner and the GX460 as well as most Lexus derivations. Considered the most advanced/efficient manufacturing plant in the world.

The LX570 is made wholly at the Toyota Auto Body (formerly Araco) Yoshiwara Plant where LC's have been manufactured since the early 60's. The 7X series cruisers are also manufactured here as are LC200 series for the ME/Africa/Europe."

(From GX-R) "Check the 11th digit in your 200 series VIN.
4 = Yoshiwara
5 = Tahara"

PRODUCTION NUMBERS (from another thread on MUD):

200 Series Sales Numbers for the USA

Year.......LX570....LC200.....Year Total
2008.....7,915.......3,801......11,716
2009.....3,616.......2,261........5,877
2010.....3,983......1,807.........5,790
2011.....3,167......1,662.........4,829
2012.....5,005......2,895.........7,900
2013.....4,625......3,082.........7,707
-----------------------------------------
Total....28,311.....15,508.......43,819

Source: Toyota Motor Sales (TMS), USA.

 

[txtortoise]

Excellent recap, Johnny. Almost sorry I took the car and payout on total loss. (Doing frame repair on LX470 rear prongs after getting rear ended.)

Wasn't sure I wanted to handle another $30k in debt if I took the payout.

Miles and price on your 2013? Soooo, tempting.

Cheers...

Just to extend the fantasy...

2015s are in the $71k range. Toyota doesn't offer sales enhancements to the dealers on these, so any idea how much further prices might drop before the 2016 shows up?