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The sentiment is the same here in Idaho but for Californians. They hate Californians here!!!
Neither of these are as bad as all the Texans throwing a tantrum over all the California folks who have recently moved here. Personally I welcome everyone with open arms and think they are all fine states with lots to offer.
Can’t speak on Idaho as I haven’t been there but you guys still have the best potatoes right?
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No animosity from me, just an observation. Also, you folks tend to plaster the Texas flag all over everything you own so it makes it easy to notice there’s a million of you here. As far as I’m concerned, we live in a free country and anyone that has a problem with someone else going/moving somewhere can kick rocks.
Mineral Creek yesterday.
That’s a great looking 200 and a perfect setup for what I want my next one to be. Simple, effective.
You’re covering some ground this week
As the primary person giving you grief, I'll respond to this:
1) We're mainly just giving you s**T. If we met in real life, I'd be the nicest guy you met in Colorado
2) I work in corporate relocation and real estate and probably a good quarter of my income comes from Texas. I have no real animosity, it's just my right as a Coloradan to heckle you, and your duty to take it!
We actually keep track of this stuff and although in years past we've had a major imbalance (meaning lots and lots of Texans moving to Colorado), at the moment, it's almost completely balanced. Lately I've been sending a lot of Texans back home, lol. Texas is currently growing at a MUCH higher rate than Colorado, though that wasn't the case 5-8 years ago.3) "Tourist dollars." Meh. I feel this was a better place to live when the tourism industry was about half or a third what it is now. And the majority of people working in resort areas are not native/permanent residents (or they're very recent transplants). Influx of tourists has made these areas unaffordable to the people who used to call it home. A high percentage of tourist dollars go to corporations with the exception of the occasional mom and pop, but that's not where most people spend their money (think lodging). But I like to travel too, and I'm sure people have similar mixed feelings anywhere that attracts tourism. Not a knock against you or Texas, and nothing unique to Colorado.
3) That said, as someone who's been here my whole life and seen the way things have changed, trails have closed, campsites that used to be available after work on a Friday are now overrun any day of the week and full of human waste and toilet paper, needing to rescue idiots on the trail in rentals (it's always a jeep), heavy traffic on trails and around town, etc., we need an outlet for our frustration. Texas and California are just easy scapegoats.
If you do move here, just don't build a house full of logs. wood paneling and river rock and whatever other random ugly s*** you can dream up and call it "Colorado Style"
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Yea, unfortunately the secret is out on the outdoors and it’s probably only going to get worse. Not much to do now except bitch and moan and blame it on Texans, Californian’s, millennials, or whoever else is currently in vogue.
"photo provided by the Colorado tourism board" 
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That almost makes me want to go to Colorado
A couple more to get things back on track. I was actually surprised how considerate people were on the Alpine Loop. Had Engineer to myself, but was never stuck behind another vehicle for longer than a mile or so on Cinnamon. I’ve only ridden it on a moto in the past so it really wasn’t “up to them” whether I was passing or not. Little different situation in a 6,000lb behemoth.
The BEST taters and onions!!!
Vidalia, GA would like to speak with you regarding those onions.
There has been a big increase in over use and poor use practices in general in our neck of the woods as well. For us here in North Georgia it had been slowly trending in this direction but got out of control during the lockdowns. It’s started to taper off slightly as people discover they aren’t into the outdoors as much as they though and their local entertainment is back open but a lot of damage has been done and locals, like myself, end up doing a lot of the cleaning up. I think it’s perfectly ok to be wary of out of towners but we’ve all seen locals behaving poorly as well. In my experience, the lack of “pack it in, pack it out” and trail edict is a result of ignorance instead of malice. Unfortunately, the conversation that needs to happen often doesn’t get to because the bad actor is long gone by the time I get there so I end up carrying their dumb doggie poop bag out or digging their glass out of the fire pit.3) That said, as someone who's been here my whole life and seen the way things have changed, trails have closed, campsites that used to be available after work on a Friday are now overrun any day of the week and full of human waste and toilet paper, needing to rescue idiots on the trail in rentals (it's always a jeep), heavy traffic on trails and around town, etc., we need an outlet for our frustration. Texas and California are just easy scapegoats.
For the record, California and New York are the license plates we like to rant about, all in good fun though. I know it goes both ways should I venture into their neck of the woods and it’s up to me to rep my fellow country boys properly.
I started complaining about Californians moving to Texas back in 2007 when I lived in Austin and they were claiming 125 new residents per day were arriving from California. It's happening in every state worth a crap so unfortunately most will experience this in some form or fashion. I have no issue with transplants but I did sense a lot of animosity from the locals and even a few from Utah on this trip. I have been coming up to Colorado for over two decades in some form or fashion and it's usually a great experience but this trip had a different energy from the locals and exchange students/waiters in town.
Yea the Texas flag on everything can be a little overkill but I have no issue with those showing their pride. I do think it's kinda ironic when I see a US flag on a Japanese or European vehicle though.
Thanks! A rear bumper and sliders and she'll be done for the most part. I was happy with how it performed this week but I might make a few small changes.
As the primary person giving you grief, I'll respond to this:
1) We're mainly just giving you s**T. If we met in real life, I'd be the nicest guy you met in Colorado
2) I work in corporate relocation and real estate and probably a good quarter of my income comes from Texas. I have no real animosity, it's just my right as a Coloradan to heckle you, and your duty to take it!
3) "Tourist dollars." Meh. I feel this was a better place to live when the tourism industry was about half or a third what it is now. And the majority of people working in resort areas are not native/permanent residents (or they're very recent transplants). Influx of tourists has made these areas unaffordable to the people who used to call it home. A high percentage of tourist dollars go to corporations with the exception of the occasional mom and pop, but that's not where most people spend their money (think lodging). But I like to travel too, and I'm sure people have similar mixed feelings anywhere that attracts tourism. Not a knock against you or Texas, and nothing unique to Colorado.
3) That said, as someone who's been here my whole life and seen the way things have changed, trails have closed, campsites that used to be available after work on a Friday are now overrun any day of the week and full of human waste and toilet paper, needing to rescue idiots on the trail in rentals (it's always a jeep), heavy traffic on trails and around town, etc., we need an outlet for our frustration. Texas and California are just easy scapegoats.
If you do move here, just don't build a house full of logs. wood paneling and river rock and whatever other random ugly s*** you can dream up and call it "Colorado Style"
It takes a lot to offend me, I have thick skin so no worries there. There was a large Texans to Colorado exodus 10+ years ago and I admit I considered relocating for work as well at that time but I have too much Texas in my blood to have my primary residence be anywhere else. I wouldn't mind a cabin in Colorado somewhere but more for fishing and hunting than for playing in the dirt.
We've spent a lot of time in Utah as well and I'd maybe favor parts of Utah over Colorado for a second home but neither is on the agenda at the moment so you're safe from this Texan moving there and further upsetting the balance haha.
I too am usually on two wheels when on the Loop and I agree this week was rather low key on the trails, I expected more traffic out there given the weather and masses in the towns. I wish I had crossed paths with other 200's while out there but I only came across them parked in town.
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