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Hi Guys I'm going to have to replace my cat on my 1996 LX 450 ... I seen a few of the guys in the past post about using a single cat from summit ...Would any of you guys know the part number of a cat that will take the place of the two ...i will be welding it in !

Thanks

Greg
 
you may want to make sure that aftermarket cats are OK in your state?
 
I don't have emissions ...I just don't want to throw a code by running a straight pipe instead of one cat .

Thanks

Plus I am a retired wrench with a current Inspection License to boot !

Greg
 
Here are 2 aftermarket choices for you that are both rated correctly
to be direct substitutes for the factory catalytic converters on the
'95-'97 Landcruiser and '96-'97 LX450. They are rated as 3-way
converters, OBD-II compliant in 49 states, and rated for 6.2 Liter
engines on 6000 pound vehicles. They are NOT legal in California
however, because, well, nothing is. :rolleyes:

The 1st one is Magnaflow pn# 94106.
It's very similar in construction and size to the OEM units, with a
2 piece stamped shell, oval shape, ceramic matrix core, and 2 1/2" in/out.
I would call it a drop in substitute.
http://www.car-sound.com/02product/universal/941.asp
Cost is about $65 each on the internet.

The 2nd one is Magnaflow pn# 59956.
It's a new design. Much smaller and lighter and looks as if it will
flow better as well. It's got a wound metal foil core with a one
piece spun shell, and 2 1/2" in/out.
To me this seems far superior to OEM. You really can improve routing
and clearance with this one if you want to, without changing anything
about the emission system design.
http://www.car-sound.com/02product/universal/599.asp
Cost is about $105 each on the internet. Worth it IMO.

Both units can be bought at http://www.hottexhaust.com, and
other places too. The 94106 is available lots of places but the
59956 is new and not as widely available.

I have a couple of 59956's in the garage waiting for installation,
which I hope to document when it happens.
 
Here are 2 aftermarket choices for you that are both rated correctly
to be direct substitutes for the factory catalytic converters on the
'95-'97 Landcruiser and '96-'97 LX450. They are rated as 3-way
converters, OBD-II compliant in 49 states, and rated for 6.2 Liter
engines on 6000 pound vehicles. They are NOT legal in California
however, because, well, nothing is. :rolleyes:

The 1st one is Magnaflow pn# 94106.
It's very similar in construction and size to the OEM units, with a
2 piece stamped shell, oval shape, ceramic matrix core, and 2 1/2" in/out.
I would call it a drop in substitute.
http://www.car-sound.com/02product/universal/941.asp
Cost is about $65 each on the internet.

The 2nd one is Magnaflow pn# 59956.
It's a new design. Much smaller and lighter and looks as if it will
flow better as well. It's got a wound metal foil core with a one
piece spun shell, and 2 1/2" in/out.
To me this seems far superior to OEM. You really can improve routing
and clearance with this one if you want to, without changing anything
about the emission system design.
http://www.car-sound.com/02product/universal/599.asp
Cost is about $105 each on the internet. Worth it IMO.

Both units can be bought at http://www.hottexhaust.com, and
other places too. The 94106 is available lots of places but the
59956 is new and not as widely available.

I have a couple of 59956's in the garage waiting for installation,
which I hope to document when it happens.

Thanks for the info. $210 or so, sounds alot better than what Mr. T is asking for the set-up.
 
Here are 2 aftermarket choices for you that are both rated correctly
to be direct substitutes for the factory catalytic converters on the
'95-'97 Landcruiser and '96-'97 LX450. They are rated as 3-way
converters, OBD-II compliant in 49 states, and rated for 6.2 Liter
engines on 6000 pound vehicles. They are NOT legal in California
however, because, well, nothing is. :rolleyes:

The 1st one is Magnaflow pn# 94106.
It's very similar in construction and size to the OEM units, with a
2 piece stamped shell, oval shape, ceramic matrix core, and 2 1/2" in/out.
I would call it a drop in substitute.
http://www.car-sound.com/02product/universal/941.asp
Cost is about $65 each on the internet.

The 2nd one is Magnaflow pn# 59956.
It's a new design. Much smaller and lighter and looks as if it will
flow better as well. It's got a wound metal foil core with a one
piece spun shell, and 2 1/2" in/out.
To me this seems far superior to OEM. You really can improve routing
and clearance with this one if you want to, without changing anything
about the emission system design.
http://www.car-sound.com/02product/universal/599.asp
Cost is about $105 each on the internet. Worth it IMO.

Both units can be bought at http://www.hottexhaust.com, and
other places too. The 94106 is available lots of places but the
59956 is new and not as widely available.

I have a couple of 59956's in the garage waiting for installation,
which I hope to document when it happens.

Good info., as I am looking for a custom solution as well before my next smog test.

Would you recommend two replacements (to coorespond to the two on the rig) or would one be ok with the two O2's--one before and one after?

Thanks.
 
Beno,

My view is not to change the emission system design so I'm keeping 2 converters.
Here are some reasons:

1) I'm not smart enough to understand the effects of running only 1 converter. How much am I giving up?

2) The engineers that put 2 in there had compelling reasons for it.
Otherwise they would not have spent the money. The bosses of
engineers (bean counters) get cranky when engineers spend more
than they really have to. So - they HAD to.

3) They call these converters "3-way", meaning they do 3 different
kinds of emmission reduction. I think maybe the first one tends to do
some reactions and the 2nd one tends to do other reactions, for
reasons I don't understand.

4) I don't really want ANY emmissions, but you can't have that.
They did pretty good for a reasonable cost. I'll keep all that.

5) If I ever get hassled by the emission test people, I can righteously claim
that EVERYTHING is still there, just replaced with newer pieces.

6) These things have GOT to be acting as mufflers to some extent.
A lot of mufflers on the market have meshes or gratings that the gas goes
through, and not as nicely done as the converters either. So, I don't want to
give up whatever noise reduction you get for free while reducing emmissions.


On the other hand, I think the factory engineers gave up TOO much clearance.
I think we can actually do way better today.

BTW, here's a picture of the OEM converter next to the Magnaflow 59956.
The 59956 is 4.0" diameter and 8.0" overall length.
If you were to trim the flanges by 1/2" on each end, the total length
of the 2 cats would be 14". Pretty small, really! OEM is 25" overall!!!
Up and over the frame, anyone? :bounce:
OEMCatvs59956.webp
 
Beno,

My view is not to change the emission system design so I'm keeping 2 converters.
Here are some reasons:

1) I'm not smart enough to understand the effects of running only 1 converter. How much am I giving up?

2) The engineers that put 2 in there had compelling reasons for it.
Otherwise they would not have spent the money. The bosses of
engineers (bean counters) get cranky when engineers spend more
than they really have to. So - they HAD to.

3) They call these converters "3-way", meaning they do 3 different
kinds of emmission reduction. I think maybe the first one tends to do
some reactions and the 2nd one tends to do other reactions, for
reasons I don't understand.

4) I don't really want ANY emmissions, but you can't have that.
They did pretty good for a reasonable cost. I'll keep all that.

5) If I ever get hassled by the emission test people, I can righteously claim
that EVERYTHING is still there, just replaced with newer pieces.

6) These things have GOT to be acting as mufflers to some extent.
A lot of mufflers on the market have meshes or gratings that the gas goes
through, and not as nicely done as the converters either. So, I don't want to
give up whatever noise reduction you get for free while reducing emmissions.


On the other hand, I think the factory engineers gave up TOO much clearance.
I think we can actually do way better today.

BTW, here's a picture of the OEM converter next to the Magnaflow 59956.
The 59956 is 4.0" diameter and 8.0" overall length.
If you were to trim the flanges by 1/2" on each end, the total length
of the 2 cats would be 14". Pretty small, really! OEM is 25" overall!!!
Up and over the frame, anyone? :bounce:

Thanks for the references and the logic.

I bet some people are going to be interested in your positions...;)

Up and over is indeed the plan, as is smaller and less of a hassle and worry.

Thanks again!

-onur
 
Up and over the frame, anyone? :bounce:

I had good luck with an aftermarket cat on another vehicle and was considering replacing those on my 94 give that they're relatively cheap.

Anyone recall the difference in the actual cats from 94 to 95. I realize the 94's are side by side and the 95's inline but is the cat itself the same?



Bamusiero - Thanks for the info. Here's a few pics of Mr T's oem up and over on a 94 with side by side cats. First pic just after the Y on the back side of the cats outside the frame, the second taken at the inside of the frame.

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I have the magnaflow (non-spun) and it works great...single cat, ODBII compliant, no codes at all.
 
The 1st one is Magnaflow pn# 94106.
It's very similar in construction and size to the OEM units, with a
2 piece stamped shell, oval shape, ceramic matrix core, and 2 1/2" in/out.
I would call it a drop in substitute.
http://www.car-sound.com/02product/universal/941.asp
Cost is about $65 each on the internet.

That's what I'm running. Though I like the 59906 offset one. Would have gone with it, but was having trouble sourcing it. Think I got mine from Jegs. I'm only running a single, since these are 3-way instead of a 2-way and a seperate 1-way, no real need to run two IMHO.
 
Has anyone used the two O2 sensor boss model? Part number 94066 for the long version or 94166 for the short model. Seems to be a good option to give alot more room as it eliminates the need for the exhaust tubing with the O2 sensor bosses but still keeps them so the OBDII is happy. I just wonder if that will result in a different reading than those not built into the cat itself. It might even make it possible to mount two cats inline and still route the tubing over the frame rail and have the best of both worlds.
 
Problem is what O2 sensors are you going to use. On OBDII, Toyota's apparently don't like generic sensors.
 
Good point, I would only use OEM but now that I think about it I just assumed that the bosses were universal but they might not be the same size or thread pitch. Might have to look into that.
 
Good point, I would only use OEM but now that I think about it I just assumed that the bosses were universal but they might not be the same size or thread pitch. Might have to look into that.

OEM bolt on with two bolts and a flange vs. the more common threaded O2.
 
Bambusiero,
Holy smokes thats a small cat.
Why not go with the 3" (59959)?
 
Bambusiero,
Holy smokes thats a small cat.
Why not go with the 3" (59959)?

Because the cat is the same, it's just the inlet and outlet that change - and stock is 2.5"?
 
That's what I'm running. Though I like the 59906 offset one. Would have gone with it, but was having trouble sourcing it. Think I got mine from Jegs. I'm only running a single, since these are 3-way instead of a 2-way and a seperate 1-way, no real need to run two IMHO.

A little late, but I found the 59906 at hottexhaust.com. I'll let you guys know how the install goes.
 

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