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THEOZMAN: Have you looked through this Lexus/Toyota connector manual for the female side?
460-Add Crawl Control (CC) and Multi Terrain Select (MTS) to 2010-2019 models/all trims (3 Viewers)
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THEOZMAN: Have you looked through this Lexus/Toyota connector manual for the female side?
That was my first thought. I am going to look into making them after new years
I figured out the connectors I need. I found that PDF yesterday and it was awesome.
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I've looked into this potential "090" type crawl switch for 20+ and I suspect this might be a custom switch that was created for Al-Futtaim motors in UAE. I've seen in the past where they have sent out LCs/LX 570s for custom work.
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This specific version isn't sold at any other Lexus dealer in the area.
They have a pricing/spec sheet here but this appears to be somewhat of a custom creation. Example shows model lacking RAHC/AVS and close up shots appear show 3rd party aftermarket gear including some yellow coils.
Again lots of speculation hear but that top part of switch is of a different design that any other two switch before it.
This solid design is odd considering a standard '20+ DAC switch looks like this. Thinking 3D printed.
I reached out to Partsouq with this info but unless I can come up with a VIN from these example vehicles they can't help me confirm or deny these are custom switches.
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This specific version isn't sold at any other Lexus dealer in the area.
They have a pricing/spec sheet here but this appears to be somewhat of a custom creation. Example shows model lacking RAHC/AVS and close up shots appear show 3rd party aftermarket gear including some yellow coils.
Again lots of speculation hear but that top part of switch is of a different design that any other two switch before it.
This solid design is odd considering a standard '20+ DAC switch looks like this. Thinking 3D printed.
I reached out to Partsouq with this info but unless I can come up with a VIN from these example vehicles they can't help me confirm or deny these are custom switches.
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A FB GXOR member passed these pics onto me.
Here is an example of a '20 Luxury w/off-road package. Necessary wiring is there but skid control ECU number is the same PN as other trims.
We still need to see if '20+ Luxury without off-road package has this wiring or if absent like base & premium
Here is an example of a '20 Luxury w/off-road package. Necessary wiring is there but skid control ECU number is the same PN as other trims.
We still need to see if '20+ Luxury without off-road package has this wiring or if absent like base & premium
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CL member with a 2020 Luxury without off-road pulled back the wiring on skid control ECU... same terminations as Luxury w/off-road. Strong chance a 20+ Luxury without off-road can be modded with switch.
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MOD: Crawl Control (CC) and Multi Terrain Select (MTS) - ClubLexus - Lexus Forum Discussion
GX - 2nd Gen (2010-2023) - MOD: Crawl Control (CC) and Multi Terrain Select (MTS) - Crawl Control and Multi-Terrain Select (MTS) retrofit on '10-'19 GX 460 / all trims (https://lexusgxor.com/mods:body)What parts do I need? PN: 859A1-60020 - 2010-2013 Multi Terrain Select (MTS) for any trim...
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For anyone who is on the fence about which upgrade to start with, I have found that MTS is 100X more useful than Crawl.
I have used both over the last several months on and off road, and finally today in the snow.
The only time I have felt like Crawl was worthwhile was when descending a steep hill with loose rocks and sand. DAC does essentially the same thing as Crawl in a descent, so I'm not convinced I really needed to install the Crawl Control. I'd much rather use MTS (or ATRAC) if ascending to have control over the throttle.
Today in 5" of snow covered ice, the Mud and Sand setting of MTS worked wonders. It did seem to rob power ( while in 4Hi), but made the beast extremely sure footed. I've also used it in 4Lo while doing some moderate rock crawling in Rock mode, and it was pretty impressive.
If I had to choose between the two, MTS is hands down the one I'd choose and put that Crawl money towards sliders.
Crawl is apparently useful for getting unstuck, but I haven't experienced that situation yet. Good insurance I guess and cheaper than a tow or a winch, but I'm not going to take any unnecessary risks just because I have it.
I have used both over the last several months on and off road, and finally today in the snow.
The only time I have felt like Crawl was worthwhile was when descending a steep hill with loose rocks and sand. DAC does essentially the same thing as Crawl in a descent, so I'm not convinced I really needed to install the Crawl Control. I'd much rather use MTS (or ATRAC) if ascending to have control over the throttle.
Today in 5" of snow covered ice, the Mud and Sand setting of MTS worked wonders. It did seem to rob power ( while in 4Hi), but made the beast extremely sure footed. I've also used it in 4Lo while doing some moderate rock crawling in Rock mode, and it was pretty impressive.
If I had to choose between the two, MTS is hands down the one I'd choose and put that Crawl money towards sliders.
Crawl is apparently useful for getting unstuck, but I haven't experienced that situation yet. Good insurance I guess and cheaper than a tow or a winch, but I'm not going to take any unnecessary risks just because I have it.
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DAC is really just neutered Crawl and only operates the brakes for downhill operations. I like the slower downhill speed of Crawl on an icy hill I have near my cabin. DAC always felt too fast.
Remember there is always "budget" crawl.
Remember there is always "budget" crawl.
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Since the wiring is present on 20+ Luxury a CL member with ‘20 Luxury has ordered the switch to see if they can get it to work.
If this works the big change will be that the crawl switch would bring forth Crawl and MTS. No option for one or the other.
If confirmed to work then a 20+ base/Premium owner will need to experiment with custom wiring and switch to skid control ECU
MOD: Crawl Control (CC) and Multi Terrain Select (MTS) - ClubLexus - Lexus Forum Discussion
GX - 2nd Gen (2010-2023) - MOD: Crawl Control (CC) and Multi Terrain Select (MTS) - Crawl Control and Multi-Terrain Select (MTS) retrofit on '10-'19 GX 460 / all trims (https://lexusgxor.com/mods:body)What parts do I need? PN: 859A1-60020 - 2010-2013 Multi Terrain Select (MTS) for any trim...
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If this works the big change will be that the crawl switch would bring forth Crawl and MTS. No option for one or the other.
If confirmed to work then a 20+ base/Premium owner will need to experiment with custom wiring and switch to skid control ECU
What you describe is exactly what I have expected to be the case. Very happy I added MTS, but not sure I need CC.
Right, there is no way for zero-point calibration with a paper clip anymore. I used the fishy techstrem reader/writer from Amazon.
Hey Acrad, I just ordered some parts for the plug and play harness that I was considering. It would be a T-style harness plugged in between the switch assembly and the OE harness. Hopefully within the next few weeks I can get a prototype done and tested. I only ordered parts to make 5 harnesses so potentially I can sell 4. I will keep this post updated
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THEOZMAN: Have you thought about adding in 3 buttons as well for a more plug and plug budget crawl?
Would the T also disconnect the wires that are no longer used for DAC?
Would the T also disconnect the wires that are no longer used for DAC?
I added Crawl Control using simple switches - ClubLexus - Lexus Forum Discussion
GX - 2nd Gen (2010-2023) - I added Crawl Control using simple switches - Thanks to Acrad for inspiring me to do this instead of another switch swap, in addition to answering my many questions related to the mod. I was ready to order a combo switch assy and he asked about using simple switches. I...
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I am looking to add a toggle switch for "up/down" and a push button for the ON/OFF. the toggle switch is to kind of preserve the control style. as for the DAC, I am not sure yet. I would like to intervene as little as possible on the OE harness, but it will be useless once the crawl switches get setup.
Do you know if the MTS upgrade will work on the 2020?
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Unfortunately not known yet.
20+ no longer uses the MTS ECU of 10-19.. It is bundled with skid control ECU.
A few 20+ owners out there are experimenting.
20+ no longer uses the MTS ECU of 10-19.. It is bundled with skid control ECU.
A few 20+ owners out there are experimenting.
Just purchased the parts to do this on my new-to-me '11 Base Model (will be the first mod)
used it today.
