Wanted Wiper Motors for 1966 Toyota Land Cruiser
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bmoonhajjar
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I have a couple off of a 64. Not sure if they are the same.
why does your ad say “for sale” is a bit misleading I think.
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Any photos please? I have a 1966 FJ40 and would like to see
bmoonhajjar
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Fishing in BC until Thursday. Will post when I get back.
They are not left & right specific but certain trucks use a wiper motor with the shaft located on the upper side of the motor as it sit when mounted. I think it might have to do with a none removable top on a 45. I’m not sure of the application.
In your picture, imagine taking the motor and being able to rotate it and have the set screw on the other side. This would get the wiper motor out your line of sight. Anyway…. @pardion @Bear ?
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I thinks it’s a LHD vs RHD drive thing. If you could rotate the wiper, it‘s out of LOS but the wire harness connects on the other side now. I don’t know if RHD rigs have a different wiper harness that routes from the right side or not. The left side routed harness isn‘t long enough to reach the connections if they’re on the right side of the motor. My ‘63 FJ45L SWB FHT has the lower sitting wipers, and I‘m pretty sure they’re original to the rig. My ‘65 FJ40 had the higher sitting wipers. Both rigs are LHD and both sets of motors are TNKs. So I’ve wondered about market, parts availability, use-whats-on-hand thing with these early wipers. And this diatribe completely summarizes my research into this subject 
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Since my name came up here: there are two different early wiper motors--you can see the part numbers above. Although visually similar, the interior articulating eccentric arms are different and not interchangeable, and the motors park the wiper arms differently. With the anti-rotation bracket/arm situated at the bottom of the unit, Model 85110-60030 parks the wiper arm to the Right on the windshield as seen from inside the vehicle; 85110-60010 parks the arm to the Left. Ostensibly this was done to keep wiper arms from being directly in the driver's line of sight when not operating.
How the motors are mounted may be up for discussion: whether the anti-rotation arm is to sit at the bottom (as I believe), or the top of the unit, and whether the bulk of the unit hangs down below the windshield frame or above it. In any event, the existence of two different models indicates thought and design over just where the wiper arms are to be parked.
Since many years and many owners have come and gone, the thin aluminum motor covers can be flipped, as well as mounting either motor model "upside" down since the windshield frames have captive nuts for either RHD or LHD anti-rotation bracket/arm mounting. Windshield frames can be swapped with another, with wiring coming up on either side. Even personal choice could dictate one-of-each model, parked to both of the outside edges of the windshield. And model availability at a parts dealer may make the replacement choice for a buyer.
Did Toyota simply use whatever model was at hand during assembly (probably not), or did they calculate placement to satisfy regulations in individual countries? Were there ever changes at the docks, the distributors, or individual dealers, and what were the reasons? Lots of reasons why your Land Cruiser has the wiper motors it does. Be grateful that they work and even more grateful that they park when and where you want them !
My 2 cents.
How the motors are mounted may be up for discussion: whether the anti-rotation arm is to sit at the bottom (as I believe), or the top of the unit, and whether the bulk of the unit hangs down below the windshield frame or above it. In any event, the existence of two different models indicates thought and design over just where the wiper arms are to be parked.
Since many years and many owners have come and gone, the thin aluminum motor covers can be flipped, as well as mounting either motor model "upside" down since the windshield frames have captive nuts for either RHD or LHD anti-rotation bracket/arm mounting. Windshield frames can be swapped with another, with wiring coming up on either side. Even personal choice could dictate one-of-each model, parked to both of the outside edges of the windshield. And model availability at a parts dealer may make the replacement choice for a buyer.
Did Toyota simply use whatever model was at hand during assembly (probably not), or did they calculate placement to satisfy regulations in individual countries? Were there ever changes at the docks, the distributors, or individual dealers, and what were the reasons? Lots of reasons why your Land Cruiser has the wiper motors it does. Be grateful that they work and even more grateful that they park when and where you want them !
My 2 cents.
That’s about 1.50 worth’s.
Thanks Bear.@Bear thank you for taking the time to respond and share your knowledge!
Interesting…this is what I have on the passenger side.
And to clear things up my driver side motor from above isn’t securely fastened to the windshield frame. However I do believe it is aligned/mounted properly (almost). If you zoom in on the parts catalog picture it shows the electrical connections coming off the same side as in my photo??? Also the majority of the motor body is hidden behind/below the top edge of the window frame. But….?????
Interesting…this is what I have on the passenger side.
And to clear things up my driver side motor from above isn’t securely fastened to the windshield frame. However I do believe it is aligned/mounted properly (almost). If you zoom in on the parts catalog picture it shows the electrical connections coming off the same side as in my photo??? Also the majority of the motor body is hidden behind/below the top edge of the window frame. But….?????
Your wiper motor in the first picture is different than the motor in the windshield frame. Seems to me the first motor would sit higher. IDK.
Looking back at this 4 year old thread, it appears that the wiper motor shown in the 3rd and 4th photos in Post #9 above is the incorrect motor for that windshield frame, and that it has been mounted upside down. It is part no. 85110-60010 intended for RHD trucks. The correct motor should be 85110-60030 which was supplied on LHD trucks as delivered to the USA. That is an early LHD windshield frame that does not have the two captive nuts--one on each side of the thru-spindle hole-- that allows either the LHD motor or the RHD motor to be installed. Later windshield frames come with both captive nuts.
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I think the upside-down TNK motors could have been a 1961/1962, maybe stretched into early 63 thing.
My 61 FJ40 has them. And here are a few stolen photos of 1961 and 1962 FJ40s and 45s.
61 FJ40
61 FJ40
62 FJ40
62 FJ45
62 FJ45
My early ‘63 45 has the low hanging motors, and they park to the left (driver’s side) like the above pics.
A big thanks to @tahoe40/45 for above photos !
This is an issue that has puzzled me for some time, although it may not matter to anyone else. My current thoughts are as follows; opposing logic welcome.
Full disclosure: OCD in progress:
It appears the factory in Japan MAY have installed wiper motors both ways--either squarely on the windshield frame or partially slung below the windshield frame--at least in the early days*. Being a RHD country, early post WWII would see RHD vehicles for native use. Ostensibly RHD drivers would prefer their forward visibility not impeded by a wiper blade parked directly in their forward field of vision--so wiper arm parked to the Left of the windscreen. Early wiper designs were for the 1/2 of the windscreen in front of the driver, hence a motor to service just that area--85110-60010. Later the passenger side was covered by an additional wiper motor. And early on, no method was created to physically connect the Left and Right wiping action. Hence the two individual motors on the early vehicles--2 identical motors operating identically, but certainly not synchronized. The design of these motors were secured in 2 places--using an outboard anti-rotation mounting arm and a bolted spindle. And the motors would be mounted squarely ON the windshield frame. So, a spindle hole thru the frame and a captive nut welded for the mounting arm to the Left of the spindle hole--by design.
Next comes the desire to also produce a LHD version of the truck, with all the necessary changes that would entail, including that the LHD wiper system park the wiper arms/blades out of the driver's line of vision--to the Right. The design of the existing geared motor would not do that, so a different and reverse version of the existing motor was created--85110-60030,not interchangeable with the original motor. From a casual outside look, both motors appear the same, however this motor has its mounting arm to the Right of the spindle hole, Note that while not necessarily the "rule," this LHD motor has a part number sequentially "later" than the original number, possibly indicating it was designed after the original model. Maybe not, but plausible.
So, in the early development of the 25/40 series, possibly two different windshield frames were created, each with different wiper motor mounting bolt locations. Therefore an opposite-handed wiper motor could not be mounted squarely on its original windshield frame due to the lack of the proper position of the captive nut necessary for the motor's mounting arm. Only mounting upside-down could the incorrect motor be secured, and the parked wiper arm still would be in the wrong orientation.
*Why the wiper motor may have been mounted slung low on the windshield frame:
The incorrect early frame.
The incorrect wiper motor.
Availability--at either the factory, or the ensuing owners, needing unavailable replacement parts
Later windshield frames have captive mounting nuts on EITHER side of the spindle hole, so whether incorrect or not, either of the two different wiper motors can be installed squarely on the windshield frame, thus no need to produce two different windshield frames any longer.
I have no early windshield frames to check this and appreciate Tahoe's photos and any others that show the mounting holes for these early single wiper motors. Anyone have other thoughts about evidence of different wiper motor mounting?
BTW, at least here in the States, we no longer have pennies, let alone the copper to clad their final version.
So I can no longer say this diatribe is just my two cents. Who T F cares about this minutia anyway !
This is an issue that has puzzled me for some time, although it may not matter to anyone else. My current thoughts are as follows; opposing logic welcome.
Full disclosure: OCD in progress:
It appears the factory in Japan MAY have installed wiper motors both ways--either squarely on the windshield frame or partially slung below the windshield frame--at least in the early days*. Being a RHD country, early post WWII would see RHD vehicles for native use. Ostensibly RHD drivers would prefer their forward visibility not impeded by a wiper blade parked directly in their forward field of vision--so wiper arm parked to the Left of the windscreen. Early wiper designs were for the 1/2 of the windscreen in front of the driver, hence a motor to service just that area--85110-60010. Later the passenger side was covered by an additional wiper motor. And early on, no method was created to physically connect the Left and Right wiping action. Hence the two individual motors on the early vehicles--2 identical motors operating identically, but certainly not synchronized. The design of these motors were secured in 2 places--using an outboard anti-rotation mounting arm and a bolted spindle. And the motors would be mounted squarely ON the windshield frame. So, a spindle hole thru the frame and a captive nut welded for the mounting arm to the Left of the spindle hole--by design.
Next comes the desire to also produce a LHD version of the truck, with all the necessary changes that would entail, including that the LHD wiper system park the wiper arms/blades out of the driver's line of vision--to the Right. The design of the existing geared motor would not do that, so a different and reverse version of the existing motor was created--85110-60030,not interchangeable with the original motor. From a casual outside look, both motors appear the same, however this motor has its mounting arm to the Right of the spindle hole, Note that while not necessarily the "rule," this LHD motor has a part number sequentially "later" than the original number, possibly indicating it was designed after the original model. Maybe not, but plausible.
So, in the early development of the 25/40 series, possibly two different windshield frames were created, each with different wiper motor mounting bolt locations. Therefore an opposite-handed wiper motor could not be mounted squarely on its original windshield frame due to the lack of the proper position of the captive nut necessary for the motor's mounting arm. Only mounting upside-down could the incorrect motor be secured, and the parked wiper arm still would be in the wrong orientation.
*Why the wiper motor may have been mounted slung low on the windshield frame:
The incorrect early frame.
The incorrect wiper motor.
Availability--at either the factory, or the ensuing owners, needing unavailable replacement parts
Later windshield frames have captive mounting nuts on EITHER side of the spindle hole, so whether incorrect or not, either of the two different wiper motors can be installed squarely on the windshield frame, thus no need to produce two different windshield frames any longer.
I have no early windshield frames to check this and appreciate Tahoe's photos and any others that show the mounting holes for these early single wiper motors. Anyone have other thoughts about evidence of different wiper motor mounting?
BTW, at least here in the States, we no longer have pennies, let alone the copper to clad their final version.
So I can no longer say this diatribe is just my two cents. Who T F cares about this minutia anyway !