Window Runners; What’s the trick? (1 Viewer)

[NeverGiveUpYota]

Good thing my hair is short or I’d have pulled it all out by now.
Trying to reinstall the rubber channel into the metal runner (yes making up my own terms) for the regulator in my passenger window. All are lined up...
Then for the life of me I can’t get it to hold past 1/3 being rolled down. The rubber pops up out and slides out some from the metal channel and the glass begins to tip.
I know the screws are a blind feed so that means all has to be mated up high in the door right? Once I have them all mated I get the inner screw (closest to hinge) and then slowly bring down the window and feed in the outer screw but as I said once I’ve got them tight and I attempt to check the glass slips up out of the rubber.
Any tips and tricks from the wonderful men and dads on this fine Fathers Day?

 

[pistonpete]

Try too see if the rubber that the window slides in all around is not ( binded ) or out of its track a little bit somewhere inside the door. this could cause it to do that? Also on the front inner portion there is a track about a foot long that comes off so the the window can be pulled out. You can loosen the screw that holds this piece to see if it will free it up a bit ( loosen it in the track ) Sorry I can't explain to good, hope it can help??

I'll gonna be online for awhile, shoot any Q's..

 

[NeverGiveUpYota]

Good pixs, thanks. I’ll go back out in a bit and fuss some more. Doesn’t help my right hand is killing me and I’m working on just a few hours sleep.
Am I correct tho that the regulator needs to be in the upper most position to have the metal channel screwed to it?

 

[pistonpete]

I haven't played with it in awhile, you should be able to assemble it in lower position as long as the track is in same'ish area on the glass.
For final tight down I do do it in top position.Then in lower position I tight the front lower track portion ( pic sent )

 

[pistonpete]

Make sure there is not to much dirt, oil, etc between the window and seal...on the part in your pic.

 

[NeverGiveUpYota]

Everything is pretty clean. Gently wire brushed all surfaces that metal or bushings run along.
Still fighting w/ outer runner edge... getting caught on square metal bracket for door handle mechanism. Runner glides down but going back up catches the lower lip and stops.
I’ve taken the regulator out a few times and tried reinstalling in the up position and bottom and nothing doing.

 

[pistonpete]

In the second pic you can see the rubber is not in the track center which I think is making your glass run on the metal edge towards the inside cab ?? and not centre in the rubber.

 

[pistonpete]

Lift the window full top position,take the rubber off carefully from the bottom as high as you can and reinstall it back in track. It has a groove on each side which keeps it in there...

 

[NeverGiveUpYota]

I see what your directing me to but that’s not what’s holding it up.
The metal runner is catching under this bracket... and in the picture you can see the rubber is lined up edge to edge. It will roll down against that bracket but as it comes back up it gets stuck under it.

 

[NeverGiveUpYota]

I’ll try again w/ runner pressed up into glass from top. Maybe that stretch of the runner shouldn’t be that far to the right and that’s why it’s getting hung up underneath.

 

[pistonpete]

Ok I see, pull the bracket a touch.. should give you some room

 

[NeverGiveUpYota]

But if it wasn’t a problem before why is it now? Just saying. I’m quite sure it’s something I’m doing wrong.

 

[NeverGiveUpYota]

Beer would surely make all this much less annoying but I missed the liquor store window of opportunity.

 

[pistonpete]

Haha, hard to say from here.. The runner could be too much too the right like you said, makes sense. Check that for sure and ..

 

[pistonpete]

Beer would surely make all this much less annoying but I missed the liquor store window of opportunity.

Hahaha. true

 

[pistonpete]

Yup, thats the problem, I just went to shop to check mine and track is far towards the rear. I will go grab a pic for you....

 

[pistonpete]

Here ya go, hope this helps. In the second pic window is full lower position.should show where track should sit on window..

 

[NeverGiveUpYota]

Yeah that’s what I figured after I said that. I’m just lining it up wrong. At my neighbors now... he has some metal for me and had beer so I’ve quit on the window thing at this time.

 

[cps432]

Well, now you have 1.30 air conditioning. 1 window down and 30 miles an hour.

 

[NeverGiveUpYota]

Here ya go, hope this helps. In the second pic window is full lower position.should show where track should sit on window..

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So I see the metal runner that the rubber sits in and the metal riser are both at the same length. I physically can not make mine be positioned like that at all. The farthest out edge sticks out about 2-3” further and looking closely that’s the only way they line up. Screw holes, the threads, the ridge the runner sits on in the riser. I’m at utter perplexity.

If I try to line it up like yours you’ll see in the bottom two pix show the metal ridges won’t mate together flush.

And yes I have yet to look at a fsm on this... timing and multitasking hardcore right now.