LOL! I live two mountian ranges from the ocean and 2.5 hours away.
Why you should watch your rust
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LOL! I live two mountian ranges from the ocean and 2.5 hours away.
yeah about california, theres a lot of it without sea air exposure, and in my experience even if youre right near the ocean its not the same as on the east coast or tropics or elsewhere where its humid as a rule also. plus in cali you dont typically have salt on the road and i think thats as bad or worse than some sea air.
a friend of mine lives in santa cruz and his vehicles dont rust much; on the other hand other friends live in hawaii and untended vehicles there typically last a couple years only before major rust sets in.
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a friend of mine lives in santa cruz and his vehicles dont rust much; on the other hand other friends live in hawaii and untended vehicles there typically last a couple years only before major rust sets in.
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doh!
yah I guess your not all on the coast...
Your almost the same set up as I am in BC. I am 3hrs drive from the ocean, and a few mountain ranges.
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Well, I sent in my application to UF today, so I may be moving to the Gainesville. I guess I'll just pickle the cruiser for now, until I have the money for a 5 speed and a rebuild. I want my cruiser to look like Calicruiser's ROTW, if SOA is feasible for the highway.
I'm still open to performing any experiments on the body, or if some one lends a turbo, a blow through set-up
I'm still open to performing any experiments on the body, or if some one lends a turbo, a blow through set-up
While on a surf trip to OR and Cali I noticed the water was far less salty then the east coasts.....thus the reason for better rigs.
Your kidding right? Basic salinity is more or less the same world wide. It varies only locally in small environments like tidal pools or near fresh water run off.
The real reason for low rus t n CA is lower humidity, even along the coast. Very low humidity in the interior of the state, very little road salts used in winter and long periods of dry weather with no rain at all.
In Hawaii, were vehicles sometimes have rust starting while they sit on the sales lot
, there is NO road salt and the same salinity as every where else but we have high humidity and rain throughout the year.
Your kidding right? Basic salinity is more or less the same world wide. It varies only locally in small environments like tidal pools or near fresh water run off.
The real reason for low rus t n CA is lower humidity, even along the coast. Very low humidity in the interior of the state, very little road salts used in winter and long periods of dry weather with no rain at all.
In Hawaii, were vehicles sometimes have rust starting while they sit on the sales lot
No I am not kidding.
Salinity varies more than you think...
Key West even has a higher salt content then North Florida does. I live a block from the beach and normally will wake up to salt crystals on my trucks (unless the wind is off shore)... We stayed right on the beach in CA and OR not once did we wake up to salt on the vehicles.
Also when you get out of the water here you get something called "salt stick" its dryed salt on your body, it causes your shirt to stick to you(very annoying). While surfing OR and CA we did not have that problem once. It was nice to get out of the ocean and not have to shower off right away.
I will agree with you humidity has a lot to do with it. But I know for a fact the water on the west coast was far less salty....Same goes for the Northeast coast.
I have seen it first hand traveling both coasts...
The humidity and temp of the air (as well as wind direction) have more to do with salt condensation than ocean salinity variations. I’d bet fog drip was also a factor in keeping salt build up down. On a global scale ocean salinity varies relatively little (max change is about 4 parts per thousand). On a local scale they can be quite different. The keys hold a lot of shallow, warm water that sees less mixture than deeper off shore water. Increased evaporation and low replenishment means higher salinity than open water. CA water is cooler, more exposed to the southbound currents from the arctic that carry a lot of fresh melt water with them.
So you are right that there is a difference between the near shore water salinity of the Pacific and the Atlantic coast, the Pacific side is slightly less salty. But the amounts are very small, 33 parts per thousand near CA versus 36 parts per thousand near FL. Not enough on it’s own to be a factor in relative rust buildup on vehicles IMO.
I know what you mean about “salt stick”, in Hawaii I would always get it, and out here I don’t really notice it. But Hawaii is in the same ocean as CA and has only slightly higher salinity. I’d guess that cool air and cool water mean that in CA most of the salt stays in the water as it drips off your body while in HI and FL it evaporates faster leaving more salty residue behind.
ftp://ftp.nodc.noaa.gov/pub/WOA05F/salinity/PDF/s_0_0_1.pdf
So you are right that there is a difference between the near shore water salinity of the Pacific and the Atlantic coast, the Pacific side is slightly less salty. But the amounts are very small, 33 parts per thousand near CA versus 36 parts per thousand near FL. Not enough on it’s own to be a factor in relative rust buildup on vehicles IMO.
I know what you mean about “salt stick”, in Hawaii I would always get it, and out here I don’t really notice it. But Hawaii is in the same ocean as CA and has only slightly higher salinity. I’d guess that cool air and cool water mean that in CA most of the salt stays in the water as it drips off your body while in HI and FL it evaporates faster leaving more salty residue behind.
ftp://ftp.nodc.noaa.gov/pub/WOA05F/salinity/PDF/s_0_0_1.pdf
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Although it may not seem like much more that graph really ramps up in color change between FL and Cali/ Oregon.
The east coast waters don't really have the wave size and the currents the west does. The east coast waters are much calmer. On the norm west coasts winds switch up and become onshore around 10 and here it normally happens but much later if at all. Like you stated I think the run off of fresh water from the north has a big part in all of it. With no major currents ripping along the coast here I think might keep the salt closer to shore. With the high temps evaporating the water and leaving the salt behind.
I don't have any graphs to explain it.
But everytime I have been on the west coast the ocean there seemed much more wild, with many more currents and much larger waves...
I sure there are a ton a variables to the equation...
The east coast waters don't really have the wave size and the currents the west does. The east coast waters are much calmer. On the norm west coasts winds switch up and become onshore around 10 and here it normally happens but much later if at all. Like you stated I think the run off of fresh water from the north has a big part in all of it. With no major currents ripping along the coast here I think might keep the salt closer to shore. With the high temps evaporating the water and leaving the salt behind.
I don't have any graphs to explain it.
But everytime I have been on the west coast the ocean there seemed much more wild, with many more currents and much larger waves...
I sure there are a ton a variables to the equation...
Yeah, I think we are saying the same thing, I just wouldn't characterize it as a big difference in salt content thats all.
I'm just glad I don't have to deal with road salt. It's also nice to know that the first sign of a rust bubble doesn't need to be taken care of right away. In Hawaii it would go downhill real fast once you got bubbles. I lived in Vermont for a while and I remember the same thing there, no good rust free crusiers.
I'm just glad I don't have to deal with road salt. It's also nice to know that the first sign of a rust bubble doesn't need to be taken care of right away. In Hawaii it would go downhill real fast once you got bubbles. I lived in Vermont for a while and I remember the same thing there, no good rust free crusiers.
I use to live in the mountains in PA and the road salt ate my frame alive. I moved to Florida did a frame swap and then the ocean salft ate my roof, din't really matter since I smashed it into rock walls and trees.
Here we have great frames and solid body mounts, wheel wells...but bad roofs and window seals.
The south rusts from the top down and the north rusts from the bottom up..
Off topic, but I hope to be living next to some redwoods in the next few years....
Rust can be a killer in Colorado, years ago it was the rock salt and sand all winter long.
Low humidity but lots of salt.
These days CDOT and cities are dumping magchloride on the roads, so the body will look file while other parts fall apart.
Low humidity but lots of salt.
These days CDOT and cities are dumping magchloride on the roads, so the body will look file while other parts fall apart.
