Why can't an 80 flex like..... (1 Viewer)

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ShottsUZJ100 said:
Yikes. That's outrageous. I wonder though how that actually would run the trails. Hmmm?


I wouldn't think very well with the coils coming out. :rolleyes:
 
Anyway, you can see by this pic of the front axle, it's been modified from a 3 link to a 5 link...

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I think someone should experiment with just removing one of the 4 bolts holding the control arms to the axle and see how much that opens up the flex(not necessarily while wheeling, a ramp would be sufficient for measuring it's effectiveness I would think).

Ary
 
Arya Ebrahimi said:
I think someone should experiment with just removing one of the 4 bolts holding the control arms to the axle and see how much that opens up the flex(not necessarily while wheeling, a ramp would be sufficient for measuring it's effectiveness I would think).

Ary

Tried this Mr. Slee?
 
Arya Ebrahimi said:
Add to the fact that the fact that many are installing the OME bushings which I *believe* are poly(someone please correct me if I'm mistaken), and you have very limited bushing deflection.



Correct. The OME bushings are harder than OEM. I believe that has lead to cracking in some axle housings in OZ as a result of very long-term, very severe use. I currently have OME bushings in mine and I plan to go back to OEM and Christo's plates as time and funds permit. I just bought a Powertank and a sub fuel tank and I have to figure out a way to sneak them home......:eek:
 
[[[stuck in GA Damn! That is some serious flex out of that cherokee. The only picture of a heavily flexing 80 iv'e seen is on cardomain.com and it is pretty bad ass. It is white and it is flexing a ton.]]]


Ever heard of the ..................................


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SHORT BUS!!!!


Maybe you know ............... :confused:
 
cruiserdan said:
Correct. The OME bushings are harder than OEM. I believe that has lead to cracking in some axle housings in OZ as a result of very long-term, very severe use. I currently have OME bushings in mine and I plan to go back to OEM and Christo's plates as time and funds permit. I just bought a Powertank and a sub fuel tank and I have to figure out a way to sneak them home......:eek:

What's going in OZ? 80 housings. 100 T-bar mounts? Are their rigs put through that much more abuse?
 
Uhhhh..... yeah?
 
Too much flex can be a bad thing. That Ausi rig with the spring falling out would be really scary ont the street.

As someone already mentioned about the Heep. If the one axle is much more flexable than the the other, the vehicle will have a hard time traversing the tippy bumps.

The front and rear axles on the 80 need to have an even amount of flex and the 80 has that out of the box. Once you start modifing an 80 for long wheel travel, that is when the can of problems open.

Take away 1 of the bushings on 1 of the radious arms and the 80 will flex great , but the lone arm an the other side will have to hold the axle from rotating all by itself.
 
yeah i know there is the shortbus. But i thought yall would might like a change of pace. You know get something different for a change. I think that that site was pretty cool to see his setup even though the spring is off.
 
I think both the gigantor and the short bus are the craziest 80's i've seen. Both very different and good flex!

:cheers:
 
This is Ben's old truck. Converter to a 3 link in the front with longer shocks. The 80 series arms with the two bushings on the front (doing the work of two arms) is that kills the articulation. The arms are trying to tear the mounts from the axle when it articulate. If you examine the suspension from a birds eye view it will become clear. One side drops out, the arm effectively becomes shorter and the axle not needs to sit at an angle..

The arms with the rotating joint took some torsion stress out of the arms, but they did not solve the problem 100%.
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Wow, I want my 80 to do that.
 
ShottsUZJ100 said:
Yes....I'm very curious what the parts would cost to make that front change?

Well, bring it to Golden and we will do it. Articulation is not the end all do all. See pictures on the bottom of the Gigantor page. I will put $5 on that it rolled due to the suspension unloading when climbing those steps. Nasty side effect of making an 80 with gobs of travel.

Anyway, Bens was made with custom links. Converter to a 3 link with panhard. Long shocks and no swaybar.
 

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