Who watched that BaT auction this afternoon?
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Show us the creampuff, Ace!I've got garages full of creampuffs. I'm kinda happy that you're triggered by that.
Not everybody wants to go wheeling. Or go wheeling in something larger than a side by side.
Trust me, you'd really hate my 80.
I hear what some of you guys are saying. I recently bought a cream puff and was going to sell my ‘94 and diesel swap the LX. When I got it, I just couldn’t bring myself to chop up such a pristine rig. So I’ll sell it. I doubt whoever buys it will be wheeling it, but if it’s not mine, it’s not really my business. I think a lot of people wouldn’t even consider what I do wheeling. I just use it for camping and getting off the beaten path away from other people.
South Texas 97
GOLD Star
Perhaps I should buy this one.... barn find, but been in a couple of floods I think, knowing where the barn is located.
I did take a closeup look at this - the instrument cluster has a line of rust across it, and it took me a ages to figure out why.... per the owner, has not been driven in years.
72/73.
I had one of these when working in South America, but a 79 model, awesome, awesome truck.
I did take a closeup look at this - the instrument cluster has a line of rust across it, and it took me a ages to figure out why.... per the owner, has not been driven in years.
72/73.
I had one of these when working in South America, but a 79 model, awesome, awesome truck.
Just to clarify, I didn't mean to say I had a problem with whatever ones chooses to do with their vehicles, nor did I intend to have a judgmental or presumptive tone. Just my .02 based on my admittedly limited experiences and observations.It's supremely ironic when newbs want to chatter on about the current state of the Land Cruiser market. Look in the mirror. Prices aren't up because us old-timers are out there bidding shyte up.
I've moved past beating up my stuff and simply enjoy owning a small collection of excellent examples. Mudders who see my rigs generally don't have a problem with it. Or at least they don't ask me passive-aggressive questions, then walk away.
At the end of the day the market is just supply/demand.
And somehow the demand produced this thing… The Ineos Grenadier SUV to Land in U.S. in 2023 | Edmunds - https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/ineos-grenadier-suv-to-land-in-us-in-2023.html
I have been following the inception of the Grenadier fo quite some time. It's what Land Rover should have done for the new Defender. Looks promising!
Cheers
BMW E30 M3 is a fine example
you can do that well with a Subaru.....lol. better gas mileage, more comfortable too.
Old fart here.
All this bring memories of being in a cocktail party were a guy was showing off a (very expensive) watch that could work under a pressure equivalent to 200 meters underwater- or whatever-and was probably inspired by Jacques Cousteau, a team of Navy Seals and James Bond.
We had a rather brief exchange:
Let’s face it folks. Since the explosion of the “overlanding” fad, any cool-looking guy must have a rig with 37’s mud tires, 5’ lifts, winch, bumpers, lights, RTT, and all expensive sh**...for these adventurous trips to...you know...the grocery store?
Make no mistake: anyone is free to use their money as they see fit. Period. However, we need to be aware that what used to be a hobby for a few enthusiasts has evolve to something else. Looks like our hobby/passion will certainly be more expensive for the foreseeable future.
Just my 2 cents
Cheers!
All this bring memories of being in a cocktail party were a guy was showing off a (very expensive) watch that could work under a pressure equivalent to 200 meters underwater- or whatever-and was probably inspired by Jacques Cousteau, a team of Navy Seals and James Bond.
We had a rather brief exchange:
- Me: “Wow, 200 meters, that’s really deep, you must be a master scuba diver or similar, are you?”
- Guy: “ Oh, hell not. I just want the best at everything”
- Me: “So, you don’t dive?
- Guy: “Hell no. But the ladies like it”
Let’s face it folks. Since the explosion of the “overlanding” fad, any cool-looking guy must have a rig with 37’s mud tires, 5’ lifts, winch, bumpers, lights, RTT, and all expensive sh**...for these adventurous trips to...you know...the grocery store?
Make no mistake: anyone is free to use their money as they see fit. Period. However, we need to be aware that what used to be a hobby for a few enthusiasts has evolve to something else. Looks like our hobby/passion will certainly be more expensive for the foreseeable future.
Just my 2 cents
Cheers!
No Subaru is getting where I generally camp.
.Idk, it looks good. But I’ll never be able to get past the BMW power plant. The ZF auto… all day long. But anything BMW is hit and miss, on my experience. Love the engines, but not in anything that I want to be reliable and mostly trouble free.
Especially the new ones, half the engine bay is plastic and they're designed to last until the warranty expires. Give me an E30 all day though.
Lots of hate in this thread, the 80 at discussion is a nice offering, beyond my budget by fat but I am not going to say it’s not worth the price… there’s an ass for every seat or so I’ve been told, but that wasn’t the case here as the reserve was not met… a good value is a good value but if you’re looking on bring a trailer for a good value you’re in the wrong place, they offer pinnacle vehicles in their opinion to select buyers who are willing to pay a premium, I think this is good for the land cruiser community as it will continue to fuel restorations and potentially lead to being more parts available…. Pretty trucks are pretty and they have a value but it’s hard to beat a rig you got for a deal and can do whatever you want with… just my .02
Your anecdote is very insightful. suppose that's the inevitable result of the dominant culture we have. Exacerbated in the last few years by social media, insinuating if you don't have all the latest junk, your not worthy. I spend a lot of time wondering if any of this will come to a head. Probably not. Just generations of people being told they should spend their money on material things for their image, and make a point to show it off to everyone else, only to discover they don't really have much of personality. I doubt that's anything new though.
You also gotta keep in mind for every garage queen, there's probably 20 that were beat to hell every day.
I always wished we got the poverty package LCs here in the states, stripped down with manual everything. The auto and plush interior in my 97 is the probably the only reason I won't keep it long term. Well, that and the running costs lol.
I always wished we got the poverty package LCs here in the states, stripped down with manual everything. The auto and plush interior in my 97 is the probably the only reason I won't keep it long term. Well, that and the running costs lol.
WOW Opinions on opinions! Here is my OPINION
These trucks were fluffed up hard core trucks when they were new. But very few if any original buyers purchased them to take them out on the trails and thrash them, partially because they were hideously expensive. They became popular in the off road world here in the states when the original owners started trading them in for a newer version because you must look good dropping the kids off at school.
The prices kept dropping to the point where guys like me were picking them up for under $2k still running. So we added some big tires a lift , sliders and bumpers and took what is regarded as one of the best off road suspensions on the planet off a factory floor and went out to push them and ourselves to the limit. An entire support system grew in the aftermarket to support these trucks and we were all there standing at the alter of the mighty 80 series.
But here is the rub, those kids that were being dropped off and their buddies that saw them dropped off are now fueling the current market for these trucks. Because all of us cheap old bastards that picked them up for a song don't like it, fuels their fire even more.
Do not feel so bad though, the cars old farts like me revere are 65 Rivs, 66-67 Chevelles and 66-67 GTOs etc. Just a POS shell for any of them will run you over $10K.
What the true whining here is about is "I can't buy a world class 4X4 for pennies on the dollar any more"
To quote a song by the Eagles "Get Over It"
Once again this is OPINION, look it up
These trucks were fluffed up hard core trucks when they were new. But very few if any original buyers purchased them to take them out on the trails and thrash them, partially because they were hideously expensive. They became popular in the off road world here in the states when the original owners started trading them in for a newer version because you must look good dropping the kids off at school.
The prices kept dropping to the point where guys like me were picking them up for under $2k still running. So we added some big tires a lift , sliders and bumpers and took what is regarded as one of the best off road suspensions on the planet off a factory floor and went out to push them and ourselves to the limit. An entire support system grew in the aftermarket to support these trucks and we were all there standing at the alter of the mighty 80 series.
But here is the rub, those kids that were being dropped off and their buddies that saw them dropped off are now fueling the current market for these trucks. Because all of us cheap old bastards that picked them up for a song don't like it, fuels their fire even more.
Do not feel so bad though, the cars old farts like me revere are 65 Rivs, 66-67 Chevelles and 66-67 GTOs etc. Just a POS shell for any of them will run you over $10K.
What the true whining here is about is "I can't buy a world class 4X4 for pennies on the dollar any more"
To quote a song by the Eagles "Get Over It"
Once again this is OPINION, look it up
It's crazy how they were being given away just a few years ago. Nowadays your only options for 5k and under are Xterras, Monteros, Troopers, Cherokees, maybe a beat up 4runner or Tacoma, or an old ranger if you're brave.WOW Opinions on opinions! Here is my OPINION
These trucks were fluffed up hard core trucks when they were new. But very few if any original buyers purchased them to take them out on the trails and thrash them, partially because they were hideously expensive. They became popular in the off road world here in the states when the original owners started trading them in for a newer version because you must look good dropping the kids off at school.
The prices kept dropping to the point where guys like me were picking them up for under $2k still running. So we added some big tires a lift , sliders and bumpers and took what is regarded as one of the best off road suspensions on the planet off a factory floor and went out to push them and ourselves to the limit. An entire support system grew in the aftermarket to support these trucks and we were all there standing at the alter of the mighty 80 series.
But here is the rub, those kids that were being dropped off and their buddies that saw them dropped off are now fueling the current market for these trucks. Because all of us cheap old bastards that picked them up for a song don't like it, fuels their fire even more.
Do not feel so bad though, the cars old farts like me revere are 65 Rivs, 66-67 Chevelles and 66-67 GTOs etc. Just a POS shell for any of them will run you over $10K.
What the true whining here is about is "I can't buy a world class 4X4 for pennies on the dollar any more"
To quote a song by the Eagles "Get Over It"
Once again this is OPINION, look it up
I actually saw a 94 fzj listed for 2500 the other week in MO, but it was rough, with 300k on the clock. Even then, someone offered 5k just to be first, according to the seller.
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This TLC 80 wouldn't be for me either, but I will never understand how people let themselves get so assblasted by it? Just LOL and move on, I mean what?I've got garages full of creampuffs. I'm kinda happy that you're triggered by that.
Not everybody wants to go wheeling. Or go wheeling in something larger than a side by side.
Trust me, you'd really hate my 80.