Why are parts catalogues and numbers such a hassle with these cars? Seems like a real obstacle
What’s the deal with part numbers?
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The Toyota part number system one of the easiest and most logical part numbering systems in the automotive world.
What are you not understanding?
What are you not understanding?
Perhaps he's referring to Toyota dealerships' lack of access to older part numbers, and the challenge in determining which years are associated with which parts, in the event that there were crossovers, etc.
I think we've all found the best resource to be a combination of old part catalogs and searching the forum.
Living in the Past
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Quick search shows the OP has a 63 FJ45 SWB fixed top. Pretty much explains the question. Easiest part system in the world means nothing when you drop everything from the system pre 3/69. The early Land Cruiser is how Toyota got a foot hold in the US market. Dropping it from the system was a slap in the face. Could say it because these are so old but according to CDan this goes back to 1979. In the last forty years Toyota never moved that date.
Nothing has been dropped pre-1969.
It’s just not in electronic format. Which means having to either find paper books, facsimiles, or microfiche.
The current logic goes back to 10/1963 when the 10-digit system was adopted.
Living in the Past
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Nothing has been dropped pre-1969.
It’s just not in electronic format. Which means having to either find paper books, facsimiles, or microfiche.
The current logic goes back to 10/1963 when the 10-digit system was adopted.
I remember reading here a number a years back someone tried to order some TNK wipers was told he could order them even thought they were still available at the time. Person was informed because they were never used in the US he couldn't order.
Another change Toyota didn't not allowing anything not in their electromic parts system here in the US to be sold. I have ways up looking up old parts number and excess to a dealer's online site. In most cases does not recognize the nember. But offshore sites will come up with the number even if NLA. In the eyes of Toyota USA if it's not in their electronic system it doesn't exist. Do you know the percentage of dealer who can look up old parts in the US? Guessing very low. Not many dealers who were around in 79 who are still in the same location and under the same ownership. Number of dealers in the Phoenix area has increased greatly since 1979. Do you know which dealers still have them? In 1979 there were four Toyota dealers in the Phoenix area. All but one of these have moved, some a few times. Two at least have new owners. Two still have the same or part of the original name. Only those would have anything. But everyone I've checked with do not have anything anymore. Sorry in my opinion that would be dropped from the system. Unless you are saying that a dealer can still get new paper parts books from Toyota and are not NLA.
I am also going off of what I've seen owning one of these pre 3/69 Land Cruisers for over forty five years.
As for 10/63 for the new part number system Toyota when back and updated earlier years. My 63 FJ25 parts book has both new and old part numbers. Have some mid sixties have dealer parts books with pricing as well as conversion old to new and new to old.
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Historical "Gee Whiz" part number information: I worked at Toyota Motor Sales headquarters in 1968-69, in the parts dept. (critical research dept). Our pre-1963 manuals did not have the 10 digit part numbering system, but we had conversion charts to convert old part numbers to new 10 digit part numbers. Although Toyota did not start franchising dealerships in the USA until 1964'ish, we did have most of the mechanical parts in stock for the earlier Landcruisers not imported directly by Toyota. Those were the days when I use to import (off line) brand new chrome plated FJ40 grilles for $20.00 each.
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Parts are not even in any electronic parts catalogs I've been able to find for many 03/69 and later Toyota vehicles sold in the US, probably because sales numbers for those vehicles were never very high. For example, the Toyota Corona Mark II prior to 08/73 is nowhere to be found. That model used to be offered with the 6-cylinder 2M, and later 4M, engines. Some of those parts are the same as those on 03/69 and later Land Cruisers with the F engine. I guess I have to find old parts catalogs or microfiche for that. Surprisingly, RockAuto's website has a lot of valuable parts number information imbedded in the aftermarket suppliers' cross references.
I really appreciate the efforts of many here on MUD to share old parts parts catalog and FSM information, I haven't found much of anything similar on other Toyota forums.
I really appreciate the efforts of many here on MUD to share old parts parts catalog and FSM information, I haven't found much of anything similar on other Toyota forums.
For those interested, I started scanning parts catalogs last year.
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Toyota Land Cruiser Parts Catalogs - The Old Cruiser
Everyone who works on old Land Cruisers knows that it’s tough to find replacement parts. Even your local Toyota dealership tends to draw blank stares or a good luck when you say you need to replace something on your early FJ40. While we hear that Toyota purged pre-69 parts records from their...
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Yep, as a a matter of fact I looked at that yesterday.For those interested, I started scanning parts catalogs last year.
Toyota Land Cruiser Parts Catalogs - The Old Cruiser
Everyone who works on old Land Cruisers knows that it’s tough to find replacement parts. Even your local Toyota dealership tends to draw blank stares or a good luck when you say you need to replace something on your early FJ40. While we hear that Toyota purged pre-69 parts records from their...
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Thank you all for your replies. I think some of you touched on the issue which is that, as an owner the parts information is not easy to get. Most other manufacturers offered parts lists and catalogues for their vehicles. The Toyota technical literature seems scant and rarely available - complicating maintenance and sourcing spares for vehicles. As an enthusiast of many different types of vehicles this is a unique problem for Toyota owners
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Kudos to you sir!!
For those interested, I started scanning parts catalogs last year.
Toyota Land Cruiser Parts Catalogs - The Old Cruiser
Everyone who works on old Land Cruisers knows that it’s tough to find replacement parts. Even your local Toyota dealership tends to draw blank stares or a good luck when you say you need to replace something on your early FJ40. While we hear that Toyota purged pre-69 parts records from their...
