Thats a nice rig except for the colour scheme .
What Land Cruiser Would You Take?
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Thats a nice rig except for the colour scheme .
Where do you keep the waeco 110,that is a serious sized fridge for a 74 series
I have an 80 and a 50 waeco. Im selling the 50 soon and buying the new waeco 11 litre compressor fridge for the front in between the seats,so I dont have to open the back up to get a drink on long trips
The BJ 74 has the back seat taken out. Like most middys , I put a platform in that goes along the top of rear fender wells. The Waeco CF110 is right behind the front seat (sideways) so myself or co-driver just turns slightly lifts the lid and voila.
11 liter Eh! That makes it alot easier , NICE!
sandcruiser
....back in the saddle again....
diesel troopy if there are 2 people and you want to sleep inside
diesel 80 if there are 3 or 4 people and you want comfortable seating
diesel 60 if you are on a budget and have 4 people
might consider removing some electronics from the diesel 80--- manual windows, for example.
But otherwise I think that the comfort and improved suspension of the 80 are big advantages vs. the 60.
diesel 80 if there are 3 or 4 people and you want comfortable seating
diesel 60 if you are on a budget and have 4 people
might consider removing some electronics from the diesel 80--- manual windows, for example.
But otherwise I think that the comfort and improved suspension of the 80 are big advantages vs. the 60.
Tyres. You get a lot of opinions on this. One thing is for sure,if you need new ones in north Uzbekistan,they wont have 33 BFGs sitting on the rack
Hey! I got my 33's on sale at Tires-R-Us in Tashkent last winter!
Seriously...unless I missed it earlier: what about a BJ60 like cruiser_guy? They are old enuf to directly import from the north country? He's driven his back and forth from BC to Central America about a bazillion times. The 3B with a turbo gets good range for the tank. It's slow, but reliable. Buy it here or import it from Canada then you'll be able to work on it at home for little while (and drive it and get used to it) before you leave.
My $.02?
Or the hilux diesel. Everybody loves the hilux!
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My $0.02.
I'm living in Egypt, and the Hilux is amazing. I was helping repair one the other day, and we were cannibalizing parts from anything in the scrap pile... We switched out parts with almost any Toyota in the scrap pile......It's not a perfect vehicle, but it's darn inconspicuous in comparison to other vehicles... I've also seen a few diesel 80's and 60's here, and several of them are rigged for roadless desert travel...
Diesel is the way to go.... see if you can find a way to get one imported...
I'm living in Egypt, and the Hilux is amazing. I was helping repair one the other day, and we were cannibalizing parts from anything in the scrap pile... We switched out parts with almost any Toyota in the scrap pile......It's not a perfect vehicle, but it's darn inconspicuous in comparison to other vehicles... I've also seen a few diesel 80's and 60's here, and several of them are rigged for roadless desert travel...
Diesel is the way to go.... see if you can find a way to get one imported...
rusty_tlc
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So start in Oz and sell it in South America. I bet you could find someone in the US that would love to buy it and drive it home from there.
sailor
Jackass of all trades
Simple. HDJ 81. World wide parts. Diesel, Locked, Factory fridge, dual batteries. All the goodies that the US guys seem to want to retrofit. 442f trans. All this factory installed with love by Mr. T. Haul ass on the freeway and kick ass on the trail. Best combo of on and off road manners,ride, space, strength and availability. (And I already got one!) Why mess around building up a leaf sprung LC? Coils are way more comfrotable for the long seat times. And the 80 series has such a poor reputation for durability.... (I kid)
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I love to get a HDJ81, but I would have to build it up in another country or have all my parts ready to go and import it for the one year limit. Is it possible to import build it up for the year limit and then go for a test run out the country and then bring it back in for another year? Yes, I know I could just go for the start of my trip. Is there any information about the rules of importing a vehicle for the one year limit? I wouldn't mind taking a trip out of country to be able to own a HDJ81 or a 70 series.
The big question is "Are you traveling by yourself or not?".
For one person, I would take a HJ61 or a HDJ80.
For two people I would take a HZJ75/78 and turbo it.
You will want to be able to sleep in the car if worst comes to the worst.
If you go for diesel, and you plan to go anywhere above 1500m - get a turbo or one fitted aftermarket.
Cheers
Andrew
For one person, I would take a HJ61 or a HDJ80.
For two people I would take a HZJ75/78 and turbo it.
You will want to be able to sleep in the car if worst comes to the worst.
If you go for diesel, and you plan to go anywhere above 1500m - get a turbo or one fitted aftermarket.
Cheers
Andrew
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I am thinking two people. With the two seventy series I am taking it you would set if up as a camper? Or storage with a bunk big enough for 2?
A turbo is must from the beginning. I live above 1500m already.
I would go to Venezuela and buy a built 70 there. They can be had for very very cheap. the black market exchange rate is something along the lines of 8bsf to the dollar so for example you can get this baby for 14 grand
Toyota Macho 1993 - BsF 115000.00 - TuCarro.com Venezuela
And that's just one of the first ones I can see.
Fj70 are called machos there. For your drooling pleasure:
Carros Toyota Macho - TuCarro.com Venezuela
If you need any more info, let me know. I lived there for 18 years.
Oh yeah, with that 4.5 engine, you dont need a turbo; it's an absolute monster. That 70 has the same engine as the much, much heavier 80.
Toyota Macho 1993 - BsF 115000.00 - TuCarro.com Venezuela
And that's just one of the first ones I can see.
Fj70 are called machos there. For your drooling pleasure:
Carros Toyota Macho - TuCarro.com Venezuela
If you need any more info, let me know. I lived there for 18 years.
Oh yeah, with that 4.5 engine, you dont need a turbo; it's an absolute monster. That 70 has the same engine as the much, much heavier 80.
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OK a different take on the question, my car is 22 years old done 240.000 kms (150.000 miles) around Australia, then shipped to Cape Town and driven upto Europe, another 60.000 kms (37.000 miles). The car had a big ! service before leaving SA and only suffered one blown tyre and a broken rear shock in the drive up.
Now its in my possession and I plan on taking it to North Africa, Dakar and up to the Artic Circle in the next 2 years... then my wife and I are planning overland to India & Nepal 2013.
We'll take the HJ75, I have no-doubt we will make it ...
What I have learnt from my travels to date, its the un-planned that's makes the trip special.. Frustrating maybe at the time, but these are the moments you'll remember.. For the "rest of world" you'll need a CARNET - look it up on Google, it enables temporary importation into a foreign country. "Rest of World" take diesel, its available everywhere and even in a very poor quality, your toyota will still run. You can buy fuel / water separators..
Most of your travels will be on tarmac or sand roads, true off road will be at the back of your mind when you're 1000 kms from a town. Be able to take plenty of fuel and water, you'll soon learn which countries are cheap and which are expensive. Its not uncommon for fuel stations to be "sold out" and awaiting a delivery.
For me, sleeping inside the car was a must, rather than tent or roof tent.... this is a very personal choice.....
Also consider buying in other markets where the cars are cheaper and driving them home.
Conclusion, get your 45 road worthy and start taking it places; after a few trips you'll know what you want... Or fly to a destination, rent something and head off ...
This is why you might want to sleep in the car
Good old troopie
Cheers
Matt
Now its in my possession and I plan on taking it to North Africa, Dakar and up to the Artic Circle in the next 2 years... then my wife and I are planning overland to India & Nepal 2013.
We'll take the HJ75, I have no-doubt we will make it ...
What I have learnt from my travels to date, its the un-planned that's makes the trip special.. Frustrating maybe at the time, but these are the moments you'll remember.. For the "rest of world" you'll need a CARNET - look it up on Google, it enables temporary importation into a foreign country. "Rest of World" take diesel, its available everywhere and even in a very poor quality, your toyota will still run. You can buy fuel / water separators..
Most of your travels will be on tarmac or sand roads, true off road will be at the back of your mind when you're 1000 kms from a town. Be able to take plenty of fuel and water, you'll soon learn which countries are cheap and which are expensive. Its not uncommon for fuel stations to be "sold out" and awaiting a delivery.
For me, sleeping inside the car was a must, rather than tent or roof tent.... this is a very personal choice.....
Also consider buying in other markets where the cars are cheaper and driving them home.
Conclusion, get your 45 road worthy and start taking it places; after a few trips you'll know what you want... Or fly to a destination, rent something and head off ...
This is why you might want to sleep in the car
Good old troopie
Cheers
Matt
This thread has not seen much action lately, but I was reading and felt like throwing in my .02cents
I do agree with Mr. Panic about a killswitch and some other deterrent mechanism (see Kevin Rowland's gear lock).
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Anyhow, we are driving a 60 with a 12HT and RTT and could not be happier. I do agree that having the option of sleeping inside the car when the need arises is a definite plus.
I think diesel is definitely a plus, not a must. Not because of availability or cost, but because in the same amount of fuel you get almost twice the range. We have a 40 gallon tank in the 60 and at 20 mpg's that is almost 800 miles between fills. Not bad.
Good luck with whatever you are planning and if you want any unneeded and probably faulty advice please don't hesitate to contact me...
Kayakpanic, I am not entirely sure how my RTT, my home for the last 7 months+ could be left at home... poser? I guess if you have it on the roof and don't use it, but otherwise it is a very comfortable home and quite convenient.
I do agree with Mr. Panic about a killswitch and some other deterrent mechanism (see Kevin Rowland's gear lock).
You can practically forget about any "real" insurance outside of North America, the cost of getting any real coverage is insane. If we had insurance to cover our vehicle we could not afford the trip (and as it is we cannot afford the trip
)I agree with almost everything Matt says, (you do not need a Carnet de passage for the America's) including the vehicle choice. Unless you can get your hands on this:We'll take the HJ75, I have no-doubt we will make it ...
What I have learnt from my travels to date, its the un-planned that's makes the trip special.. Frustrating maybe at the time, but these are the moments you'll remember.. For the "rest of world" you'll need a CARNET - look it up on Google, it enables temporary importation into a foreign country. "Rest of World" take diesel, its available everywhere and even in a very poor quality, your toyota will still run. You can buy fuel / water separators..
Most of your travels will be on tarmac or sand roads, true off road will be at the back of your mind when you're 1000 kms from a town. Be able to take plenty of fuel and water, you'll soon learn which countries are cheap and which are expensive. Its not uncommon for fuel stations to be "sold out" and awaiting a delivery.
For me, sleeping inside the car was a must, rather than tent or roof tent.... this is a very personal choice.....
Also consider buying in other markets where the cars are cheaper and driving them home.
Conclusion, get your 45 road worthy and start taking it places; after a few trips you'll know what you want... Or fly to a destination, rent something and head off ...
This is why you might want to sleep in the car
Matt
Anyhow, we are driving a 60 with a 12HT and RTT and could not be happier. I do agree that having the option of sleeping inside the car when the need arises is a definite plus.
I think diesel is definitely a plus, not a must. Not because of availability or cost, but because in the same amount of fuel you get almost twice the range. We have a 40 gallon tank in the 60 and at 20 mpg's that is almost 800 miles between fills. Not bad.
Good luck with whatever you are planning and if you want any unneeded and probably faulty advice please don't hesitate to contact me...
Just want to add; Diesel is far safer to transport either in the cars fuel tank or jerry cans.
Turbo Diesel 80's series
Diesel. your life will be worlds better.
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HZJ-75 , 1HZ engine, cable lockers and PTO Winch 
I'm looking to build my BJ44 (turboed 2B - 30+mpg) with a pop-up and do the trip to Argentina from the states.
If I had the choice, and unlimited funds, I'd do the 70 series troopy. But since this rig will not be a dedicated traveller, the thought of a popup hard top for the long trips and still able to backcountry explore with the softtop when back in the states... Priceless.
K
If I had the choice, and unlimited funds, I'd do the 70 series troopy. But since this rig will not be a dedicated traveller, the thought of a popup hard top for the long trips and still able to backcountry explore with the softtop when back in the states... Priceless.
K
Just some input to those reccomending aftermarket turbos and things, NO NO NO, if you are travelling around the world you want to leave the drivetrain and chassis as stock as possible, bolt on whatever that makes life easier but try finding replacement parts for an aftermarket turbo in central africa! Biggest no no in this thread.
Other than than any stock LC model will do you well, a 70 troopy or and 81 will be serviceable around the world and are reliable. Just dont bolt anything onto the engine or drivetrain/chassis that cant be field replaced in the remotest region or field serviced with a welder and some luck.
Other than than any stock LC model will do you well, a 70 troopy or and 81 will be serviceable around the world and are reliable. Just dont bolt anything onto the engine or drivetrain/chassis that cant be field replaced in the remotest region or field serviced with a welder and some luck.
