What kind of power steering do I have?

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azTony

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I bought a 93 Cruiser and then ordered a FSM from Toyota for a 1993 Land Cruiser because I have some leaks. The power steering seems to be the first problem to fix but when I look in the FSM it shows the reservoir tank attached to the pump. Mine is not directly attached to the pump, it is above the pump and at the top of the engine compartment for easy access under the hood. The pump is mounted low just above the oil pan. I can not figure out why the book I ordered does not cover the vehicle I bought it for or I am missing something? :doh:
 
does that book have an engine with rocker arms, pushrods and a internal camshaft?
 
Did you get the Toyota Factory Service Manual (from Toyota), or a Chiltons/Haynes variety?

Edit: x2 what Sc0 said as well...
 
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azTony said:
Ok guys :flipoff2:

It was ordered from Toyota (see Pic)
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Strange, I wonder why the power steering is portrayed differently in the book. You got a scan or pic of the specific page?

I believe the answer to your questions is yes, the manual does have an engine, valves, blah, blah, blah...
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We weren't trying to be smart asses. Serious questions here.

:flipoff2: <-- Official 'Mud newb salute ;)
 
:-)

I thought it was a newbie rub in the ribs. :doh:

I thought the same thing. I was also surprised the Toyota manual does not give me a way to look up the VIN and see exactly what I have. I know the thing sat for some time in San Diego before I bought it and it needs some serious leaks fixed. I bought it to hunt with and get me back where I want to go (and since fell in love with the Land Cruiser fever!) but I am afraid to take it too far because of the leaks. I was going to jump on the power steering first but ran into this problem. Now I am wondering how many other problems I may run into with the FSM.

Thanks for the reply.
 
All good. Sc0- just wanted to know if the book had info for different engines, specifically referencing the 3F-E (88-92; internal camshaft, pushrods, rocker arms ;)). 93-97 had the 1FZ-FE (dual overhead cams, no pushrods, no rockers).

If you're anal about your truck, then you'll probably run into a lot of stuff to fix. I'm not anal. My power steering has been leaking for several years, but not badly. I go through one bottle every 7-8 months.

How badly is yours leaking?
 
not sure on the 3F-E, but my '93 with the FZ motor uses ATF for steering fluid, and I have seen here that some leaks are helped by changing out the old power steering fluid for ATF.

:flipoff2: and welcome to the best owners group site for anything on wheels or otherwise; seriously good eggs here.

edit: looked under the hood of mine just now, same as yours; dizzy wires just in front of the fluid res that is bolted to the intake manifold= FZ motor= 4.5 liter, 24 valve DOHC, no pushrods, rockers or cam in block.
 
azTony said:
I bought a 93 Cruiser and then ordered a FSM from Toyota for a 1993 Land Cruiser because I have some leaks. The power steering seems to be the first problem to fix but when I look in the FSM it shows the reservoir tank attached to the pump. Mine is not directly attached to the pump, it is above the pump and at the top of the engine compartment for easy access under the hood. The pump is mounted low just above the oil pan. I can not figure out why the book I ordered does not cover the vehicle I bought it for or I am missing something? :doh:
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I have a 1993 as well and ordered the 1993 FSM. The 1993 FSM is lacking in many areas. The power steering section in mine shows a 3FE( 1991-1992 cruiser) power steering pump not the 1FZFE (1993-1997). Also, there's no section on the full floater rear axle with disc brakes that my 1993 came with, only talks about the semi floater with drums as found on the 1991-1992 FJ80's. Toyota kind of dropped the ball with the 1993 FSM
For the above reasons I purchased the 1994 FSM which is very good. Only difference between the two years is that in 1994 they switched to R134a and relocated the AC dryer inside the front bumper, otherwise the trucks are indentical.

Get the 1994 FSM

Pete
 
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That is perfect Ebag333!! That is exactly the pump I have and will serve the purpose. Now if I can just buy the O-rings and gaskets I can take it off and replace them. It looks like that is all that is leaking. Thanks again!!
 
Thanks

ToothDr said:
I have a 1993 as well and ordered the 1993 FSM. The 1993 FSM is lacking in many areas. The power steering section in mine shows a 3FE( 1991-1992 cruiser) power steering pump not the 1FZFE (1993-1997). Also, there's no section on the full floater rear axle with disc brakes that my 1993 came with, only talks about the semi floater with drums as found on the 1991-1992 FJ80's. Toyota kind of dropped the ball with the 1993 FSM
For the above reasons I purchased the 1994 FSM which is very good. Only difference between the two years is that in 1994 they switched to R134a and relocated the AC dryer inside the front bumper, otherwise the trucks are indentical.

Get the 1994 FSM



Pete
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That rely sucks, I "just" purchased the 93 FSM last week. That is not cheap at $60 a pop. I have the same set up as you and have not made it to the rear axle section yet but sounds like I will have to buy the 94 FSM eventually.
 
What I really like about the 1993 (new model year for the 80 series, technically) is the detailed explanations and schematics about the different systems that the later FSM's do not have because the 1FZFE carried on through the years 1993-1997.

But I do disagree that the technical writers at Toyota (or whomever they outsourced the tech. writing to) dropped the ball on certain systems.

Your PS pump is the same for all years from 1993-1997: Part #: 44320-60182
 
beno said:
What I really like about the 1993 (new model year for the 80 series, technically) is the detailed explanations and schematics about the different systems that the later FSM's do not have because the 1FZFE carried on through the years 1993-1997.

But I do disagree that the technical writers at Toyota (or whomever they outsourced the tech. writing to) dropped the ball on certain systems.

Your PS pump is the same for all years from 1993-1997: Part #: 44320-60182
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I assume the tech writers did their job. Whomever put together the 1993 FSM carried over some aspects of the 1991-1992 model/engine into the 1993 FSM. Doesn't really help a 1993 owner with a 1FZFE power steering pump too much to have the schematics of a 1992 3FE power steering pump. Or, no info at all on the Full floater rear axle. Someone at Toyota wasn't paying attention.

Actually, there's a number of threads on this topic is you search.
I, like you, learned this AFTER I bought the 1993 FSM
 
ToothDr said:
I have a 1993 as well and ordered the 1993 FSM. The 1993 FSM is lacking in many areas. The power steering section in mine shows a 3FE( 1991-1992 cruiser) power steering pump not the 1FZFE (1993-1997). Also, there's no section on the full floater rear axle with disc brakes that my 1993 came with, only talks about the semi floater with drums as found on the 1991-1992 FJ80's. Toyota kind of dropped the ball with the 1993 FSM
For the above reasons I purchased the 1994 FSM which is very good. Only difference between the two years is that in 1994 they switched to R134a and relocated the AC dryer inside the front bumper, otherwise the trucks are indentical.

Get the 1994 FSM

Pete
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'93 was a bastard year for 80's.

The UN was buying up LC's like crazy, so Toyota was throwing them together with whatever they had laying around. There are odd combinations of equipment with elements of '91/'92 mixed with the '93-'97.

Since there were so many variations of the 80 put out that year, the tech writers had an impossible job.

Now, all that being said, x2 on getting the '94 FSM. But if you have a '93, be aware that things may not match up to the '94 all the time due to changes between years and the fact that not all '93's were assembled with the same parts. (IE: full vs semi floater, disk vs drum brakes, etc.)

From Slee's site:

1991-1992
  • First major wagon body re-design since the 1980 introduction of the 60
    series.
  • 3FE 4.0L engine and A440F automatic transmission held over from the 62 series wagons.
  • Introduction of full time, four wheel drive system.
  • Introduction of all coil suspension for the wagons.
  • 15" x 7" alloy wheels standard and unique to '91-92 but the same as SR5 mini-truck wheels
  • front disk / rear drum brakes with FF front and SF rear axles
  • third row seats available for the first time
  • no airbags available
  • no ABS brake system available
  • no factory lockers available
1993-1994
  • Introduction of 16" wheels.
  • Rear axle changes to full floater with disk brakes when equipped with ABS
  • Also gets viscous coupling HF2AV transfer case versus
    non-viscous HF2A transfer case for drum braked 80's (and fj80's)
  • Introduction of 4.5l 24 valve motor.
  • Front and Rear factory lockers become an option.
  • Automatic transmission - Electronic Controlled A442Fwith mechanical lockup converter
  • Somewhere in 1993 the AC system changed from R12 to R134. With the R12 systems the dryer unit was in front of the battery and with the R134 it moved to behind the bumper. Might have been in 1993
  • The thickness of the drive plates on the front hubs were increased after April 1994 (build date). The new drive flange number is 43421-60040 and the old one is 43421-60022. This is important since certain after-market birfield joints were based on the earlier birfield. If you try to install an earlier birfield into a later truck, you will not be able to install the circlip on the end of the axle shaft.
  • Supercharger systems now available for 1993-1994 models.
  • Front ABS Lines are routed on the front control arm.
  • Radiator is a 3 row brass core.
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"But if you have a '93, be aware that things may not match up to the '94 all the time due to changes between years and the fact that not all '93's were assembled with the same parts. (IE: full vs semi floater, disk vs drum brakes, etc.)"


True.

Full floater/disc/ABS was an option for both years. But the nice this about the 94 FSM is that it covers the Full floater/disk with ABS AND the semi floater/drums non-ABS since the full floater/ABS was an option for the 93,94 model years. My point is that no one will have a 1993 FZJ80 with a 3FE power steering pump installed.

Pete
 
Perdect!!!

Thanks to Ebag333 I have my power steering pump in my hand!! I bought:

Union Bolt Gaskets
Pressure Port Union O-ring
Suction Port Union O-ring
PS Vane Pump Assy O-ring

My pump was making no noise at all but leaking badly (fill up every 2 weeks with little driving) so I figured if I replace all the gaskets and O-ring where fluid could possibly leak out I should be fine.

Damn was that thing dirty and greasy around the leaky area. She will be cleaned before I put it back together.

Thanks to everyone for your help and advice. Very nice write ups on replacements and bleeding. :cheers:
 
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