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arnott1t
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Well it's alive. After sitting in the warm garage all night I poured some sea foam into the oil and some ATF and fired it up. Took a while toget started. Blew injectors and with some ether encouragement it piped and farted. Has gobs of
Blow by and had an odd noise for a minute but who knows. Draining oil now and re try in a few!
Blow by and had an odd noise for a minute but who knows. Draining oil now and re try in a few!
arnott1t
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More Progress
So after draining the first batch of sludge I refilled with some 5w-30 some ATF and another can of sea foam. With Some more cranking the 2H came to life. I kept it revving a little high to ensure things got moving in the crank case and allowed it to idle afterward. To my surprise it idles pretty smooth. It also revs nicely and doesn't have a tick or knock I'd call un normal. The blow by when removing the oil fill cap is significant. It will dance the cap while idling if the cap is left loose.
Next I bled the clutch and filled the brake reservoir. The clutch is working again but may be leaking some. At this point the only thing left was to drive. After a few laps solo around the neighbourhood I trusted it enough to go a little further and even take my rescue pilot along. The truck drives much better than expected. It has manual steering but it is pretty tight. The wheel doesn't have the play of other 40s I've driven in the past. The brakes work.... well at least a couple do. It is hard to judge on the frozen ice roads here but they were grabbing and felt very solid. A pump was needed to bring the pedal up but after that they were pretty good.
The electrical in the truck is a different story. The previous owners have added all sorts of do dads and thing a ma jigs all over. It does have fancy HID head lights though and they work mostly... the marker lights work as well but the signals and 4 ways do not. I need to track that down too... At first the truck wasn't charging but as we all know the diesel doesn't need power to run. I eventually looked closer into the charging issue and this alternator has an external voltage regulator. This had a blown fuse and once replaced it was up at 13.5 volts.
Next Char and I put it on the hoist again to drain diffs and tranny and t case. At some point this tranny t-case seal had a leak. The to fill plugs are currently linked with a balancing hose as is a common fix for a bad seal between the two gear boxes. I drained the tranny first and was happy to see mostly clean golden oil. The T case was dirty but not as bad as I've seen them before and didn't have much water in it. The rear diff was super new and I threw the drain plug rich back in after seeing the oil. After topping those up we moved to the front. After pulling the drain plug globs of oily mucky dirty mess slowly dropped out. This hadn't been changed in a while. I'll leave it drain over night and fill in the morning.
Another issue with the front axle is the hubs. It doesn't use aisin hubs on this axle but has the older selector style. These don't appear to be functioning at all as twisting yields no change in response of the driveshaft or other wheel.... I'll need to either swap these or figure out how to fix them in the short term.
Another odd thing about this cruiser is the t case. It is a split case like the ones found in most cruisers of this year but it has the e brake on the output.... what an odd combination and great find. This way I get a full manual split case with an e brake so I could move to rear disc..... way cool. I'm not sure the e brake is working right now so I'll need to check that too...
So next items will be to continue to run it looking for bugs here and there but also chase after the flasher assembly. I'll need to get the horn working, washer pump, 4 ways and hubs going. I hope to remove the wheels and inspect the brakes shortly as well. It seem the front wheel bearing could be snugged as they have just a little play. Once these items are addressed I'd try and get it inspected both for the national inspection and the OOP. Here is hoping the inspectors are awed by the uniqueness of the truck and overlook its short comings.
So after draining the first batch of sludge I refilled with some 5w-30 some ATF and another can of sea foam. With Some more cranking the 2H came to life. I kept it revving a little high to ensure things got moving in the crank case and allowed it to idle afterward. To my surprise it idles pretty smooth. It also revs nicely and doesn't have a tick or knock I'd call un normal. The blow by when removing the oil fill cap is significant. It will dance the cap while idling if the cap is left loose.
Next I bled the clutch and filled the brake reservoir. The clutch is working again but may be leaking some. At this point the only thing left was to drive. After a few laps solo around the neighbourhood I trusted it enough to go a little further and even take my rescue pilot along. The truck drives much better than expected. It has manual steering but it is pretty tight. The wheel doesn't have the play of other 40s I've driven in the past. The brakes work.... well at least a couple do. It is hard to judge on the frozen ice roads here but they were grabbing and felt very solid. A pump was needed to bring the pedal up but after that they were pretty good.
The electrical in the truck is a different story. The previous owners have added all sorts of do dads and thing a ma jigs all over. It does have fancy HID head lights though and they work mostly... the marker lights work as well but the signals and 4 ways do not. I need to track that down too... At first the truck wasn't charging but as we all know the diesel doesn't need power to run. I eventually looked closer into the charging issue and this alternator has an external voltage regulator. This had a blown fuse and once replaced it was up at 13.5 volts.
Next Char and I put it on the hoist again to drain diffs and tranny and t case. At some point this tranny t-case seal had a leak. The to fill plugs are currently linked with a balancing hose as is a common fix for a bad seal between the two gear boxes. I drained the tranny first and was happy to see mostly clean golden oil. The T case was dirty but not as bad as I've seen them before and didn't have much water in it. The rear diff was super new and I threw the drain plug rich back in after seeing the oil. After topping those up we moved to the front. After pulling the drain plug globs of oily mucky dirty mess slowly dropped out. This hadn't been changed in a while. I'll leave it drain over night and fill in the morning.
Another issue with the front axle is the hubs. It doesn't use aisin hubs on this axle but has the older selector style. These don't appear to be functioning at all as twisting yields no change in response of the driveshaft or other wheel.... I'll need to either swap these or figure out how to fix them in the short term.
Another odd thing about this cruiser is the t case. It is a split case like the ones found in most cruisers of this year but it has the e brake on the output.... what an odd combination and great find. This way I get a full manual split case with an e brake so I could move to rear disc..... way cool. I'm not sure the e brake is working right now so I'll need to check that too...
So next items will be to continue to run it looking for bugs here and there but also chase after the flasher assembly. I'll need to get the horn working, washer pump, 4 ways and hubs going. I hope to remove the wheels and inspect the brakes shortly as well. It seem the front wheel bearing could be snugged as they have just a little play. Once these items are addressed I'd try and get it inspected both for the national inspection and the OOP. Here is hoping the inspectors are awed by the uniqueness of the truck and overlook its short comings.
Bambino840
Jive Turkey
Sea foam is sweet. Diesel is a good cleaner too. Sounds like a nice find.
Ratpuke
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It's the weirdest collection of odds and sods from a bunch of different models/years of Cruisers that I've ever seen. Selectro hubs (like 55) with a non rear axle parking brake (like my 76 40) and a BJ42 interior (like O) but with doors like an early vintage 40 but not quite. The length makes it ride like the 77 (or the 55 I guess). Anyway, it's an oddball and makes Gordo look tall.
Way Cool Tyler. SOA Troopy is next on my build list too, only not too sure when I will finish my current 7 year project 
Good luck on the build!
Good luck on the build!
I but 60 axles under my 40. Easy to do on the rear, not so easy on the front. You either have to notch the housing like lowenbrau did on Random. (Pic in his build thread) or outboard the spring hangers like I did. I bought a kit from proffit's cruisers to do it. I can send you pics if you want. If you don't need the width, I'd just swap the 3rd members. The longfields will all work except the long side inner, which you will need to replace with a shorter one from a 40
arnott1t
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Well I won't keep the front axle as it is a drum brake unit. The width would also be nice to not use spacers and clear big tires. I'm not sure ill run the 60 rear or not. The one in it is a full float so if I ran spacers on the back I could run full floater and do disk conversion.
So run a semi float 60 with no spacer? Or full float 40 with spacer to match front?
What are the rear full float hubs like? Same as front? Same bearings?
So run a semi float 60 with no spacer? Or full float 40 with spacer to match front?
What are the rear full float hubs like? Same as front? Same bearings?
arnott1t
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more progress
Well I was on a quest to repower the troopy as the old 2H was worn right out. I figured I had a couple options but I sealed the deal on one today. I missed out on a 12HT in alberta but ending up with another cruiser from BC. It is a rolled HZJ77 that has been parted out hard and is missing a lot but what it does have is:
1HZ
Auto trans
Split Case
Rad and all other auxiliaries
Hoping a power steering box.
Some body panels that could work on other 70's
Some doors for Char's 77 if ever needed.
The truck is in BC on the island so another road trip is in order to acquire this donor. Plan is to get it mated up to an H55f (Parts are still available to do so from Toyota I think) add a turbo and intercooler if room allows. Should be a reliable power plant and the best part is they are still being made so parts will be around for some time yet. That was one concern of mine with the 12HT.
Power wise it is sounding like the HZ does same power as a 12HT stock but isn't direct injection. Gturbo adds a lot of grunt to them and puts them up with many 1HDT's. Graeme is dynoing a modded hz and hopes to get 160hp at the wheels... that a pretty big jump from the 70 at the wheels they normally put out...
Should be plenty of reliable power to move the troopy about...
Other cool HZ things:
Integrated Power steering pump
Integrated vacuum pump
Over head cam
Timing belt isn't so good but is easily changed.
Any reason I'd stick with the auto that is in this thing... Deeper overdrive I bet...
Well I was on a quest to repower the troopy as the old 2H was worn right out. I figured I had a couple options but I sealed the deal on one today. I missed out on a 12HT in alberta but ending up with another cruiser from BC. It is a rolled HZJ77 that has been parted out hard and is missing a lot but what it does have is:
1HZ
Auto trans
Split Case
Rad and all other auxiliaries
Hoping a power steering box.
Some body panels that could work on other 70's
Some doors for Char's 77 if ever needed.
The truck is in BC on the island so another road trip is in order to acquire this donor. Plan is to get it mated up to an H55f (Parts are still available to do so from Toyota I think) add a turbo and intercooler if room allows. Should be a reliable power plant and the best part is they are still being made so parts will be around for some time yet. That was one concern of mine with the 12HT.
Power wise it is sounding like the HZ does same power as a 12HT stock but isn't direct injection. Gturbo adds a lot of grunt to them and puts them up with many 1HDT's. Graeme is dynoing a modded hz and hopes to get 160hp at the wheels... that a pretty big jump from the 70 at the wheels they normally put out...
Should be plenty of reliable power to move the troopy about...
Other cool HZ things:
Integrated Power steering pump
Integrated vacuum pump
Over head cam
Timing belt isn't so good but is easily changed.
Any reason I'd stick with the auto that is in this thing... Deeper overdrive I bet...
Bambino840
Jive Turkey
Call me old balls but autos can be pretty sweet. Not that particular one but some. Anybody ever have to down shift in a mud hole . If you say no I call bs.
Tyler, did you see Hilltop has a 2H-T, or is that what you missed out on?..... or was it freakin' expensive?
Ratpuke
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I found that ad and sent it to him this morning, just before he sealed the deal on the new HZ.
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