Triple Locked LX600 Offroad

[80Lex]

Japan-only trim but I have my hopes high about a triple locker off-road package becoming available to us here in the US!

Lexus LX600 Looks Even Cooler in Special Off-Road Trim for Japan

This more hard-core version has 18-inch wheels, different tires, and three locking differentials.

www.caranddriver.com

 

[bjowett]

At least the F sport receives a rear Torsen.

 

[Canyonero]

That’s what I’m hoping for. I will definitely buy one if I can get it with factory front and rear lockers. C’mon Toyota!

 

[OSS]

ARB air lockers aren’t that bad.

 

[Oakleyguy]

That’s what I’m hoping for. I will definitely buy one if I can get it with factory front and rear lockers. C’mon Toyota!

Right there with you!

 

[eatSleepWoof]

Might be possible to order OEM parts from Japan and retrofit. Cost effective? We’ll find out eventually!

 

[Oakleyguy]

Lexus and Toyota if you’re listening, please bring us an off-road variant!

 

[bloc]

I wish I felt differently but I'm pretty sure there is no way this makes it to the states.

 

[linuxgod]

The F-sport with a rear LS diff interests me. But I'm unlikely to buy the 300 until it's on the secondary market. So 3-4 years at least until I could consider one, possibly longer, and then I'm unlikely to mod it right away.

Triple locked is just silly on a vehicle where the fascia is going to smash into the rocks first

 

[1world1love]

I wish I felt differently but I'm pretty sure there is no way this makes it to the states.

Other's have said this, but I am not sure I understand why? To me it actually seems less appropriate for the Japanese market and more so for the US. Put another way, have there been other examples where this sort of niche, off-road type of feature has been sold in Japan but not the US? If anything, it seems like this is just a precursor to a more dedicated set of trim options that are more "TRD" like for the upscale market. I mean nobody that owns a G wagon uses their lockers but they still exist. I'm just not sure why they would produce this for such a limited market.

 

[bloc]

Other's have said this, but I am not sure I understand why? To me it actually seems less appropriate for the Japanese market and more so for the US. Put another way, have there been other examples where this sort of niche, off-road type of feature has been sold in Japan but not the US? If anything, it seems like this is just a precursor to a more dedicated set of trim options that are more "TRD" like for the upscale market. I mean nobody that owns a G wagon uses their lockers but they still exist. I'm just not sure why they would produce this for such a limited market.

My point stands.

As said in the lx600 release thread, toyota didn’t care about that level of off-road performance in the 200 and they won’t the 300. From their perspective crawl will get you anywhere you should need to go in this SUV, and doesn’t require any hardware changes like lockers would. Their release video talked about going “off-map” then had a very well dressed couple serving drinks from a crystal decanter in a tent in the desert. That is who they are marketing toward, not the RTT crowd.

But primarily, it is because in the US 99.9% of actual buyers of new LX600s off the dealer lot don’t know or care about lockers, and toyota knows it.

Mercedes probably only does it because from a production standpoint it’s simpler (and possibly even cheaper) to stuff the same axles under the high-spec versions all over the world, and a g wagon buyer won’t notice the cost increase. Keep in mind a 21 G is 40k more than a 21 LX. Yes the 600 will probably go up in price but it simply can’t be by that much.

 

[1world1love]

My point stands.

As said in the lx600 release thread, toyota didn’t care about that level of off-road performance in the 200 and they won’t the 300. From their perspective crawl will get you anywhere you should need to go in this SUV, and doesn’t require any hardware changes like lockers would. Their release video talked about going “off-map” then had a very well dressed couple serving drinks from a crystal decanter in a tent in the desert. That is who they are marketing toward, not the RTT crowd.

But primarily, it is because in the US 99.9% of actual buyers of new LX600s off the dealer lot don’t know or care about lockers, and toyota knows it.

Mercedes probably only does it because from a production standpoint it’s simpler (and possibly even cheaper) to stuff the same axles under the high-spec versions all over the world, and a g wagon buyer won’t notice the cost increase. Keep in mind a 21 G is 40k more than a 21 LX. Yes the 600 will probably go up in price but it simply can’t be by that much.

Maybe, but why do it at all then? The Japanese market and the US market are strikingly similar. So if they don't care, why offer it at all?

 

[hoser]

Toyota usually gives their own JDM vehicles all the bells and whistles. So not a fair comparison. Everyone wants factory triple locked LC but sometimes that means no ATRAC. So that would be a good question to ask. There are better aftermarket lockers than the OEM e-lockers but the advantage of OE is low cost.

 

[1world1love]

Toyota usually gives their own JDM vehicles all the bells and whistles. So not a fair comparison. Everyone wants factory triple locked LC but sometimes that means no ATRAC. So that would be a good question to ask. There are better aftermarket lockers than the OEM e-lockers but the advantage of OE is low cost.

And factory warranty

 

[hoser]

The Toyota E-locker, if/when it fails... is when it is rusted/corroded or when wheeled really hard and the axle shafts twist.. neither usually happen in the first 4 yrs /50k miles. Unlike Jeep JK e-lockers had problems out of the box.

 

[bloc]

The Toyota E-locker, if/when it fails... is when it is rusted/corroded or when wheeled really hard and the axle shafts twist.. neither usually happen in the first 4 yrs /50k miles. Unlike Jeep JK e-lockers had problems out of the box.

At least in the taco they moved to an eaton-style e-locker without the old school actuator that rusts out. I wouldn't be surprised if this makes it into the new Tundra as well.

I'm not totally sure but in the Landcruiser 300 GR sport off-road video it does look like an external actuator, but it is much smaller than the old ones.

 

[hoser]

Taco and Eaton are North American made.... as is the Tundra. LX600 is not. I would be surprised if it had Eaton Lockers.

 

[bloc]

Taco and Eaton are North American made.... as is the Tundra. LX600 is not. I would be surprised if it had Eaton Lockers.

I agree. And the fact that 300 has a smaller diff than a Tundra helps.

But stranger things have happened..

 

[MoJ]

Maybe, but why do it at all then? The Japanese market and the US market are strikingly similar. So if they don't care, why offer it at all?

Strikingly similar?

 

[1world1love]

Strikingly similar?

Well, maybe not strikingly