toyota guy finally gets an LC

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been a toyota guy for years. trucks only. baby on the way and the wife finally is "letting me get the cruizer I've always wanted", since we now need it.

:)

done a lot of research for the last 2 years. know a lot about 60s and 80s. if this truck weren't going to be the wife's, I'd have a locked and loaded 60, but 80 it is, as she won't stand for the quirks of a 60 that we all love. I'm the sort that smiles wide when I know that I'm rolling down the road on fresh gears that I just busted knuckles putting in.

So I'm on the prowl for a solid 80 and any input on what to watch out for would be really appreciated! Here's my plan at this point:

1. '93 or later to get the 4.5L. the wife is most adamant about power. and I must admit: I have a bit of a heavy right paw. not that a truck needs to leap in front of a 911, but it's nice to have the extra 50 HP more than the 91-92 4.0L.

2. can spend about $10K (once the current truck is sold). if the right one came along for $8K, it wouldn't hurt my feelings at all, cuz then we've got an extra $2K to spend on lifting and goodies like ARB fr bumper etc.

3. I figure that 100K mi for $10K in GREAT condition is doable (have seen some in the ads). whack me if I'm wrong. and I've seen that 150K mi can be the start of major maint stuff (like new gear box etc). would be nice to have some time before that happens.

4. lockers are a must. living at Tahoe we get 4 feet of snow overnight and are not afraid to bury a vehicle in it if the backcountry beckons to us. oh, and the NV desert tends to beckon as well.... and we go it alone, so getting out of a spot on our own is often required. not that we're headed to the rubicon with our 80, but half the reasons 80 drivers look down on 60s is that 80 can come from the fact with lockers.... so why not have em'???

5. been working on my own vehicles since age 15, so not afraid to get greasey, (hence the liking of a 60 rebuild project). had plenty of "fix-em more than drive ems" so I don't want to spend the $1000 fixing things I could have avoided by getting the sage advice from folk like YOU.

6. don't much care about creature comforts like the bidet, remote explosion starting or front and rear microwaves, but I don't really want to spend the kids college fund on fixing window motors etc. i've heard that the roof rack rust is a thing to watch.... what else? does the 8-track deck tend to be as rock solid as the rest of the truck? wire harness burn up at 111K?

7. i can see from research that other than motor and tranny maint. it's crucial that the Birfs be looked after well. but if not, it seems they are an easy weekend fix... how about brakes???? do these trucks eat through pads and/or calipers, or is there a year to avoid?

8. and so that leaves me to ask: what else should I be looking for? like fuel injectors? valves? pulleys that cost an arm and a leg to replace....? quirky stuff that will just annoy the heck out of us???

any info is greatly appreciated

hoping to come on soon with a nice 80 to rant about with you. :bounce:
 
www.sleeoffroad.com

Start there read the newbie guide for 80's. Very informative. Oh yaa :flipoff2:

Good luck, and when you find a rig your interested in post up stats etc.... and

everyone will be happy to jump in with opinions. There's only a few of those

here. :flipoff2: LOL
 
You might also look at the LX450. You might be able to get a 96 with your needs and when I was looking, they were a little cheaper. Same vehicle with a few Lexus touches and you can buy 95% of the parts at Toyota.
 
Welcome!
A 100K for 10K post 93 in great condition may be a tad optimistic but eh, go for it!
 
LC soon to be in the fam

Thanks very much for your thoughts.

Don't know if I can handle being seen in a lexus, but I'll look into the prices. same truck etc. I'm sure I can slap a Toyota emb over the lexus pretty easily.

Been seeing 100-150K mi for $10K or there-abouts ($11-13K sometimes), so I'll just inspect and suspect everything.

I'm sure as I look more and more I'll have some more specific Qs with out all the other blah blah blah that I wrote last.

cheers,
TahoeCruize :cool:
 
Tahoe,
You have asked a lot of questions so I'll cherry pick the ones I choose to address and let others answer the rest.

>> 8. and so that leaves me to ask: what else should I be looking for? <<

There were some '93s that had rear drum brakes. Avoid those as they don't have ABS and they don't have a FF rear axle.

Air bags were introduced with the '95 models. If you and/or your wife are concerned about safety in the unlikely event of a bad collision then you may want to get air bags.

6. There will likely be some rust in the nutserts that hold on the rack. There will also be some wear under the 4 feet. If the rack was used a lot by the POs and if the truck comes from an area with rust problems and if the truck is older/higher mileage then you *might* have some rust under the pads. If you buy an original Nevada or California truck then you should be OK but I would advise checking under the pads to see what you find.

7. Yes, these trucks go through front pads fairly quickly. Those of us trying the 100 series pads are getting very good results.

-B-
 
Just scanning through...
TahoeCruize said:
1. '93 or later to get the 4.5L. the wife is most adamant about power. and I must admit: I have a bit of a heavy right paw. not that a truck needs to leap in front of a 911, but it's nice to have the extra 50 HP more than the 91-92 4.0L.
Good choice. Nothing wrong at all with the 91/92, but miles might be higher than you'd like and it sounds like you'll miss the power. The general rule is that you should get the best condition, for the best price with the lowest miles on the odometer...but this is common sense really.
TahoeCruize said:
2. can spend about $10K (once the current truck is sold). if the right one came along for $8K, it wouldn't hurt my feelings at all, cuz then we've got an extra $2K to spend on lifting and goodies like ARB fr bumper etc.
The $10k price limit will mean that it MIGHT take a bit longer to find what you're looking for. I'm a few miles away from you and in the same general market, so I know that $10k will not find much, but I'll keep my eyes open and will let you know if I see something. LCs are a bit more expensive where we live than in other parts of the country, but deals can be found.
Oh...and the ARB front, the OME 2 1/2" lift and sliders just ate up your $2k plus a bit more :D
TahoeCruize said:
3. I figure that 100K mi for $10K in GREAT condition is doable (have seen some in the ads). whack me if I'm wrong. and I've seen that 150K mi can be the start of major maint stuff (like new gear box etc). would be nice to have some time before that happens.
WHACK...Sort of :) Depending on how anal the previous owner was, something over 120k miles might be in better mechanical condition than one at 100k miles. The big assumption is whether or not the 120k servicing was done. IMO, 150k is not terribly high mileage wise for an 80.
TahoeCruize said:
4. lockers are a must. living at Tahoe we get 4 feet of snow overnight and are not afraid to bury a vehicle in it if the backcountry beckons to us. oh, and the NV desert tends to beckon as well.... and we go it alone, so getting out of a spot on our own is often required. not that we're headed to the rubicon with our 80, but half the reasons 80 drivers look down on 60s is that 80 can come from the fact with lockers.... so why not have em'???
It might take longer for you to find the right rig if you need OEM lockers. That said, I don't think I'd go any other way (especially given your $10k cap on price). Not headed to the Rubicon in your 80??? Why not? The 80 love's the 'con (mine's the one in the 6th pic :D)
I have an 80, but I don't look down on 60s -- this is the first I've heard of this -- usually it's the other way around...with the 80s being looked down upon for being only mall-cruising-kid-and-grocery-only haulers.
TahoeCruize said:
5. been working on my own vehicles since age 15, so not afraid to get greasey, (hence the liking of a 60 rebuild project). had plenty of "fix-em more than drive ems" so I don't want to spend the $1000 fixing things I could have avoided by getting the sage advice from folk like YOU.
Check the newbie guide on www.sleeoffroad. Check the tech section there too. Check the same stuff here on IH8MUD. Read through all 7000 posts in the 80 series tech forum ;)...that should give you a good starting point. Once you get the rig, it's a good idea to swap out all fluids with new and tearing into the axles, repacking, rebuilding, etc. to get yourself to a good baseline.
TahoeCruize said:
6. don't much care about creature comforts like the bidet, remote explosion starting or front and rear microwaves, but I don't really want to spend the kids college fund on fixing window motors etc. i've heard that the roof rack rust is a thing to watch.... what else? does the 8-track deck tend to be as rock solid as the rest of the truck? wire harness burn up at 111K?
Bidet? No bidet for you? That's one more thing that'll make your search longer -- most 80s came with the OEM bidet :D.
Rear window gasket rust is one that comes to mind. It might be difficult to see on the surface. I recall there being a fairly expensive problem with 1993 models, but I don't know how common it is... If you can find one without a roof rack or rear wind deflector, it might be nice, but I wouldn't necessarily let it limit your search. You can remove them if you like -- the fix doesn't seem to be too difficult.
TahoeCruize said:
7. i can see from research that other than motor and tranny maint. it's crucial that the Birfs be looked after well. but if not, it seems they are an easy weekend fix... how about brakes???? do these trucks eat through pads and/or calipers, or is there a year to avoid?
These things chew through brake pads pretty darned fast. They're not difficult to change though. I'm currently running 80 series pads and they last me about a year -- I didn't jot down the mileage the last time I changed them. 20 minutes to change brake pads once a year isn't bad in my book.
TahoeCruize said:
8. and so that leaves me to ask: what else should I be looking for? like fuel injectors? valves? pulleys that cost an arm and a leg to replace....? quirky stuff that will just annoy the heck out of us???
Check for rust -- you shouldn't expect to see any in a California 80. For the other stuff...scan through the archives...check the FAQ here. Find the other threads asked by people who were looking to purchase an 80.
TahoeCruize said:
Don't know if I can handle being seen in a lexus, but I'll look into the prices. same truck etc. I'm sure I can slap a Toyota emb over the lexus pretty easily.
It would be a lot of wasted $$$ replacing all the "L" emblems with a "T", but you're welcome to do whatever you like...:rolleyes:

Good luck with your 80s-quest.

...oh...by the way...
Welcome aboard :flipoff2:
 
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found it

so it's been a while, but we just came home with a cruiser.

1994, 168K, lockers and leather..... nice.

records for 1/2 of it's life, well looked after vehicle.

and now the fun begins: ARB, OME, some tunes.... hit the trails

our budget went down, so when we saw 168K with leather and lockers and $8500 price tag it seemed to be the one.

the whole process was great. I've scrutinzed some car buys before, and this one was no exception, and I've not learned so much as I did buying this truck.

saw some over priced buckets, and some sweet cherries. ours is the right fit.

and let me just say, nothing rides/drives like one of these beasts! it's like a Jag that you can run on trail!

see you soon when i start to upgrade the bits and pieces.
 

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