Has anyone ever put in an OEM rear locker in a GX? I assume the third members are interchangeable between this and the 4runnner. What about taco's?
Toyota e-locker in GX
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Subscribed. Did any of the limited runners get a rear locker? I imagine the axle is different for the v6 and v8 models?
I'm pretty sure lockers weren't am option on any 4runner models. Definitely interested if a GX swap to 4runner is possible!
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I don't think 4th gen 4Runners had e-locker's available in the rear, just the center diff was lockable.
3rd gen 4Runners had rear e-lockers as an option, but that's a totally different platform.
3rd gen 4Runners had rear e-lockers as an option, but that's a totally different platform.
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True, but
I'm under the impression that the internals for the toyota 8" thirds are pretty much the same through the years, that they've always sat behind the v6 engines. I'll keep investigating this, though.
The third is a straight swap and, pretty sure ratios are the same.
Need the elocked third and harness.
That said, ARB would be the better option.
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1) that's what I thought
2) yup
3) why is the ARB better? The OEM locker doesn't require a lot of additional parts (eg. Compressor and air lines). Forgive my naïveté as I've never dealt with lockers before.
The ARB is stronger and reinforces the carrier by replacing it. Stock elockers fail in really bad ways. Had one go in my old 80 and caused upward of 2500 in damage.
How does a stock e locker fail and cause more $ in damage than replacing the axle costs?
I have stock lockers on my 80 and they work great. I've never had an issue with them.
If you twist the axle splines behind the shift fork in the elocker carrier you have to cut the housing to remove it. Major carnage. Not easy, but if it happens it is a sad day.
ARB is a better option based on expense and function, in my opinion, on an 8", plus it affords the option to lock the front.
I've not heard of many twisting the splines nor the axle shafts because the R&P is the weak point, so to speak.
As with anything, judicious usage of the skinny pedal is key, but the 8" rear has a higher probability to grenade than the axle issue prone the 80 and they're a royal PITA to get off the trail.
I've not heard of many twisting the splines nor the axle shafts because the R&P is the weak point, so to speak.
As with anything, judicious usage of the skinny pedal is key, but the 8" rear has a higher probability to grenade than the axle issue prone the 80 and they're a royal PITA to get off the trail.
The GX and the entire 120 platform has a Semi float rear. Assuming the design allowed the axle to be locked into the carrier if the splines twisted you would be able to cut the axle out without damaging the housing.
Probability of breaking shafts or twisting splines before R&P failure on the 8" diff is pretty low. Have seen more shaft failures on the 8.2" diffs, a testament to the overall viability of the larger diff, but mostly amongst those that wheel (FJCs) hard.
For the most part, the shafts break right where they exit the side gear. Some can be extracted with a magnet, others tapped out once the third is pulled. Not as huge of a project as full float.....if in the comforts of the driveway, which never happens.
If I were still wheeling one, I'd carry a spare third when traveling abroad and not worry about shafts, personally.
For the most part, the shafts break right where they exit the side gear. Some can be extracted with a magnet, others tapped out once the third is pulled. Not as huge of a project as full float.....if in the comforts of the driveway, which never happens.
If I were still wheeling one, I'd carry a spare third when traveling abroad and not worry about shafts, personally.
Hi all.
Here you can find "Eaton Harrop E-Locker" for Prado 120. Prado and GX have the same rear. GX has 3.73 ratio.
http://www.superiorengineering.com.au/store.php?cPath=10_923_100_911
You can see just a front locker where the ratio is mentioned... Regarding the rear one I think would be better to make a call or email them.
Here you can find "Eaton Harrop E-Locker" for Prado 120. Prado and GX have the same rear. GX has 3.73 ratio.
http://www.superiorengineering.com.au/store.php?cPath=10_923_100_911
You can see just a front locker where the ratio is mentioned... Regarding the rear one I think would be better to make a call or email them.
By the way, in CIS (Im ukrainian) people do not like ARB lockers but use it because easy to find comparing to original one from Toyota.
Troubles of ARB:
1) air leak
2) weak construction of air compressor in general (sometimes there are jams)
3) Sometimes it is nessesary to lubricate bearings right after purchasing before instalition (ARB service\quality not very good)
4) Also ARB does not work when the whether is very cold. It is necessary to warm axles a bit to resolve it)
5) Oil drops from differentials to the air line
Troubles of ARB:
1) air leak
2) weak construction of air compressor in general (sometimes there are jams)
3) Sometimes it is nessesary to lubricate bearings right after purchasing before instalition (ARB service\quality not very good)
4) Also ARB does not work when the whether is very cold. It is necessary to warm axles a bit to resolve it)
5) Oil drops from differentials to the air line
They are the same, you could find one in a 3rd gen 4runner, or a FJ Cruiser or Tacoma they will all be the same diff, the only difference would be possibly gear ratio but I know that fj cruiser and current gen tacos with autos both have 3.7 gears. The housing needs to be modified by cutting a notch for the shift fork and drilling 4 new holes for mounting studs.
And I thought that the axle twist e-locker issue was specific to 9.5" e-lockers.