Too Much Rake/Squat
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. I could really put it to use 
Trunk Monkey
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As I mentioned in another thread, adjusting the t-bars is part of the standard alignment service. Now granted, on an '04 and depending on the PO, it may never have had an alignment done.
If one does end up turning torsion bars for a 1.5-2 inch front lift(measuring to ensure adequate droop 
), is a diff drop kit necessary. Seems like with this level of increase regardless of method, most are using/recommending a drop kit. thanks!
), is a diff drop kit necessary. Seems like with this level of increase regardless of method, most are using/recommending a drop kit. thanks!If one does end up turning torsion bars for a 1.5-2 inch front lift(measuring to ensure adequate droop
HIGHLY recommended. But what do I know? I relate with Fox News and even Bill O'Reilly.
Trunk Monkey
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Raising the front end increases the angles on the CV joints. This can cause them to leak sooner, more, etc. Using the diff drop decreases that angle back down. The diff drop gives you back 3/4". So, if you crank up the t-bars 1.5" and install the diff drop, you've still increased the angle on the CV joints a bit. But many have cranked up the t-bars, have gone without the diff drop, and just watch their CV joints.
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Wow, this is my most controversial post to date. I started an argument about things I don't even understand. I've had the truck since new and I haven't cranked the torsion bars. That said, the truck was recently aligned and I'll probably take it to the alignment shop and ask them about it. I just hope that there isn't some sort of problem that required them to "de-crank" the torsion bars in order to get it to align correctly.
Thanks for all the input. I'll post with an update (and before and after pictures if I can figure out how to post photos) when it's all sorted out--probably in a couple of weeks.
Thanks for all the input. I'll post with an update (and before and after pictures if I can figure out how to post photos) when it's all sorted out--probably in a couple of weeks.
If you are going to raise/lift you will, as you stated, want to do a post lift alignment.
omfg L shoxs
Take a stock 100... leave it as stock... case closed
Wisdom for 95% of owners, while the other 5% that tackle the really nasty stuff probably need the added clearance, angles, etc.
Definitely something to be said for the if it ain't broke, don't fix it theory.
true! I'm not the 5% so I can say this........
I don't need a lift... but if I was "i4c4lo" then it would be a different story!
i dont need a lift with AHC, but I want it...I'll make sure Slee doesnt check for droop when he does my suspension next year.
Same here. Part of the reason I bought an LC was because of how great they perform right off road, directly off the Toyota shelf, unmodded.
If I find myself doing crazy stuff in the future, I may change my mind and go up a few inches, but I plan on having a ball finding out just what it can do bone stock.
Stock works fine on the pavement and some dirt roads. But otherwise expect some damage. If you've never needed a lift than you don't need a lift. If you've never got stuck in the mud you don't need more agressive tires or recovery gear. The 1st time you try to change a flat and you entire bottle jack disapears into the ground. You'll discover why people carry a highlift. What I'm getting at is mods that help you and your driving style/terrain are good for you. Doing mods you'll never use are a waste of time and money. The "Keep it stock" may work for you, but we're not playing the same game.
Back to the topic at hand. After turning up the T-bars. Be sure to get an alignment.
Back to the topic at hand. After turning up the T-bars. Be sure to get an alignment.
Trunk Monkey
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Add a 12k winch to the back end, it'll sink it 3/4".
Yes, you have a new 2004 and everything is stock. I'm sorry some have complicated the issue so much. This happens a lot on this forum due to varied levels of knowledge and/or opinion compared to how or what way some do/did their own mods/work. Some mods do require great care and watch in order to not mess up your truck. This one does not because:
*You bought your 100 new
*It's still stock
*You are NOT removing your T-bars.
*You are not being aggressive seeking more than 2" lift.
Reality is that 1.5-2.0 inches of added T-bar lift is within the safe limits of adjustability on this vehicle. No worries here.
Simply get an aligment when you're done and all will be well. Enjoy!
When you're in a hole you really do your best to dig it deeper. Comforting for ya is it?
YardPig
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Do I dare ask where John went in the last 2 years? Maybe in "another magazine article" posing?
New build, sold the hdj81, first order of business...... SPC UCA's for 'perfect' alignment, crank the torsions, 860's, will I get away with stock new oem shocks to retain the ride quality? Long enough for 1.5-2" lift? 285/75/16 KO2 AT
New build, sold the hdj81, first order of business...... SPC UCA's for 'perfect' alignment, crank the torsions, 860's, will I get away with stock new oem shocks to retain the ride quality? Long enough for 1.5-2" lift? 285/75/16 KO2 AT
