Toed in pass rear wheel and how? (2 Viewers)

[Rnd0209]

Ok my 97 LX450 I seem to have a tweaked toed in passenger rear wheel that stays that way while driving which makes the truck pull to right when I let go of the steering wheel.

I had the truck aligned and checked by a HD truck alignment shop and they noticed that that wheel was toed in as well.

They looked at the frame/rear end and all rear end suspension components etc and couldn’t find anything bent or messed up in anyway.

I know the rear Panhard bar being damaged would not cause one wheel to be toed in.

The axle housing being bent would cause this yes but the housing seems perfectly fine.

What could cause that wheel to be bent and not rotate bent but stay the same way when under motion?

 

[NeverFinis]

A bent spindle could cause this, but the spindle is a part of the rear axle housing ($$$).

I personally would confirm rear axle alignment with respect to the front. Run a string (or use alignment plates) between the front and rear rotors, on both sides. You could also use a laser with a magnetic mount to check.

 

[BILT4ME]

Too much curb-hopping at the Mall.....

Yes, it could be a bent spindle or housing.

Does the RR wheel seem inconsistent when rotating with the wheel off the ground?
1/2 turn easy, 1/2 turn hard kinda thing?

Could also be loose wheel bearings. It's not as evident on the rear axle full float because the axle shaft itself helps keep it all in line.

 

[Rnd0209]

Too much curb-hopping at the Mall.....

Yes, it could be a bent spindle or housing.

Does the RR wheel seem inconsistent when rotating with the wheel off the ground?
1/2 turn easy, 1/2 turn hard kinda thing?

Could also be loose wheel bearings. It's not as evident on the rear axle full float because the axle shaft itself helps keep it all in line.

Loose wheel bearing would make the wheel bent one way?

 

[80t0ylc]

Ok my 97 LX450 I seem to have a tweaked toed in passenger rear wheel that stays that way while driving which makes the truck pull to right when I let go of the steering wheel.

I had the truck aligned and checked by a HD truck alignment shop and they noticed that that wheel was toed in as well.

They looked at the frame/rear end and all rear end suspension components etc and couldn’t find anything bent or messed up in anyway.

I know the rear Panhard bar being damaged would not cause one wheel to be toed in.

The axle housing being bent would cause this yes but the housing seems perfectly fine.

What could cause that wheel to be bent and not rotate bent but stay the same way when under motion?

You’re not telling us the history of this vehicle. Is it a victim of an accident? You you mentioned the Panhard rod is damaged. What’s the story on that or can you tell us? Loose wheel bearing would be a good start, but I would be more inclined that the spindle is your problem. But without history of your rig, it’s all guesswork.

 

[Rnd0209]

You’re not telling us the history of this vehicle. Is it a victim of an accident? You you mentioned the Panhard rod is damaged. What’s the story on that or can you tell us? Loose wheel bearing would be a good start, but I would be more inclined that the spindle is your problem. But without history of your rig, it’s all guesswork.

No accidents and no. The panhard rod is fine. My alignment shop suggested getting an adjustable pan hard rod, but it has nothing to do with that wheel being bent in obviously.

 

[80t0ylc]

No accidents and no. The panhard rod is fine. My alignment shop suggested getting an adjustable pan hard rod, but it has nothing to do with that wheel being bent in obviously.

Did you just buy this vehicle? This can’t have just started all by itself. Have you been living with this for a while? Spindles do not bend by themselves. Because that’s what it looks like. Some kind of trauma had to have happened to cause this, is what I’m saying.

 

[BILT4ME]

Loose wheel bearing would make the wheel bent one way?

When rolling down the road it will tend to vary, however, if your panhard bar is holding the axles to one side or the other (due to lift), it causes the vehicle to "crabwalk" and cause the loose hub to tend to drag one direction.

When on the rack, the parking brake or how the truck is stopped can affect how the equipment measures it.

What I'm really getting at here is make sure your wheel bearings on the rear are properly adjusted before having the alignment done. That will give you more of a true reading.

If it is still physically pulling one direction, in spite of proper wheel bearing torque (35 LB-Ft inner / 45 LB-FT outer on Front and Rear), proper toe-in, tire pressures have been confirmed as equal, then your last resort is to run a string line or laser through the rear axle housing after it has been stripped to confirm if it is or isn't straight.

If you left the rear axle off the ground, rotate the RR wheel with the diff unlocked, typically you will feel a half turn easy, a half turn hard, indicating a bent housing / spindle / shaft. If the spindle is bent, then odds of the axle shaft being bent are also high.

A bent spindle like this can occur during a right turn at speed and the RR wheel catching a curb hard. It may have rattled some teeth and maybe almost tipped over the truck, but it could have definitely bent the spindle.

Many years ago, I bought my sister's minivan she bought new.

After about a year, the LF strut and the LR wheel bearing went out. I asked her if the van had ever been wrecked or in an accident. No never is an accident, but they slid sideways through a median on the interstate due to snow and ice, but drove out under their own power. Point here is that it may have seemed minor at the time, but it is showing up now as other items wear and possibly a new driver is focusing on things. That hard slide towards the driver's side was enough to cause slight damage to the wheel bearings and struts that showed up years later.

 

[Kernal]

@Rnd0209 : Maybe I missed it, but is the wheel itself bent (damaged, twisted, dented) or is the entire wheel/tire combo tilted inward at the top, outward at the bottom??

It would help if you could post up photos taken from the rear and looking directly at the wheel face on, along with photos of the tire/wheel on other side
for comparison.

If it's the latter (tilted inward at the top, outward at the bottom) have you jacked up the rear axle to check if there is play in the bearings ie: once the weight is off the wheel/tire you can grab the tire at 6 and 12 O'clock to see if it rocks in and out??

Tip: as you jack up the axle from behind you can watch (looking closely at the tread of the tire on the ground from the rear of the vehicle) as the weight just starts to come off the wheel/tire. If the bearings (hub) are loose you may see the tire scuff or move inwards just a tad ie: straighten up as the weight is taken off the wheel/tire.

 

[Rnd0209]

Did you just buy this vehicle? This can’t have just started all by itself. Have you been living with this for a while? Spindles do not bend by themselves. Because that’s what it looks like. Some kind of trauma had to have happened to cause this, is what I’m saying.

No bought this last year. no accidents on carfax note any painted panels etc.