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Sorry, I like to practice run-on sentences. For those of you that would like to know what parts were replaced, here is the receipt.
Sorry its so big.
Sorry its so big.
to mud or not to mud
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Wow.
My PO gave me a bunch of belts that he said he didn't have time to put on. When I was replacing some oil cooler hoses I decided to try them. Every one of them was the wrong size. What a guy!
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And oubiously I got the truck back today! Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!
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if you take the time to replace the parts you break or wear out, that you are capable of fixing you are going to eventually not need a mechanic for much and know when theyre trying to screw you over. as far as breaking things go, you tend to learn your boundaries after theyve been crossed. i had six the studs holding my rear passenger tire on shear off 4x4ing a couple weeks ago but also had friends with parts nearby and tools with me, this crap happens but you eventually learn how to fix stuff. also im pretty sure 40" tires would have cleared the obstacle but then you might have broken axle shafts soon anyways.
Wow. $360+ for some belts and pulleys? That's nuts.
Well, at least you got the truck back!!
Well, at least you got the truck back!!
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Well i found out the reason for the damage theres no plate under the radiator and im pretty sure that I know what happened to it.
So what happened to it?
After reading and skimming this thread pretty good, I don't think your friend-driving-the-ex-family-truckster-into-the-mud-slop-water-hole-incident has anything to do with "bent" idler pulleys and belt replacement. Unless there is still half an oak tree still jammed in the grill, I'd say the events are basically unrelated. The belts were likely shot anyway (like most stock 60/62 belts are when they get inherited by the next driver), and the idler pulley tensioning devices on a 62 (not sure if the same on a 60..?) are not exactly straightforward until you figure out how they work....they may have been f'ed up previously.
The biggest thing that sticks out in my mind in this story is that the mechanic told you he didn't "have time to tell what all was wrong"...run, don't walk!!...he may have been yanking you b/c you are a younger guy, but that's crap. However, I will say this, anyone that has ever had to tear down the front of a
3FE (the fj62 motor) to change belts, pulleys, water pump, etc knows what a royal bitch it can be....your $360 bill was probably a helluva deal for that job.
I'll bet your extra cirricular mudding activities only exacerbated an already existing issue...even though your folks bought the truck new it's old now and just a little stress will start finding worn spots.
Not knowing what your skill level is with mechanics and tools, I would say this is actually a GREAT opportunity for you to start learning all about a Land Cruiser. The first thing you need is a Factory Service Manual(FSM) for your year of vehicle....and some decent tools. This forum is one of the more useful tools you can have! Dive in, have fun with it, get your dad involved if he's willing. Hell, my dad even paid for some of my "projects" just b/c we were doing it together.
You got a great vehicle for nothing, learn about it, respect it, break it, fix it yourself, modify it, make it better....and....use OEM parts....and...and stay in school and don't do drugs!
The biggest thing that sticks out in my mind in this story is that the mechanic told you he didn't "have time to tell what all was wrong"...run, don't walk!!...he may have been yanking you b/c you are a younger guy, but that's crap. However, I will say this, anyone that has ever had to tear down the front of a
3FE (the fj62 motor) to change belts, pulleys, water pump, etc knows what a royal bitch it can be....your $360 bill was probably a helluva deal for that job.
I'll bet your extra cirricular mudding activities only exacerbated an already existing issue...even though your folks bought the truck new it's old now and just a little stress will start finding worn spots.
Not knowing what your skill level is with mechanics and tools, I would say this is actually a GREAT opportunity for you to start learning all about a Land Cruiser. The first thing you need is a Factory Service Manual(FSM) for your year of vehicle....and some decent tools. This forum is one of the more useful tools you can have! Dive in, have fun with it, get your dad involved if he's willing. Hell, my dad even paid for some of my "projects" just b/c we were doing it together.
You got a great vehicle for nothing, learn about it, respect it, break it, fix it yourself, modify it, make it better....and....use OEM parts....and...and stay in school and don't do drugs!
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Sorry about the long response time, Ive been done in Missisippi roofing houses. Here is what I think happened to it. In 2003 my dad ran the truck into a big metal pole ruining the left side up until the tire. I mean the truck was messed up. My dad took the truck to a guy named Jeremy Fox who does body work for real cheap.New radiator, lights, hood, bumper, side panels, he was able to bend some stuff back into shape like the wheel well. 2 months and $4k later the truck was good as new. Now what I believe happened is that he cut the front skid plate off to replace the radiator because their still parts of screws in the frame where the plate should be, but I dont know. He probably thought that it wasnt needed.jgordon said:
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jgordon said:
Invoking Occam's Razor to state that this is the most likely scenario. I'm just having an incredibly hard time imagining that a pulley could get bent solely from going mudding, with or without the lower skidplate.
Funny..
Your buddy did not bend the AC pulley.
And if you (or him) were able to "break" the truck in a 2' mud hole you are better man than I am. I (and my friends) beat the living crap out of my LC for years (shearing leaf pins and putting the tires into the fenders) Managed to get 4' of air under the REAR tires out at the Mint 400 one year, blew out the stock shocks at 15K of a 85 FJ60 while banzaing down a mountain cause we found a guy trying to commit suicide (he got help) I have not been able to bend a pulley..
Heck, I put my 40 through every possibel ringer I can. And it has not bent a pulley.
That being said, I would not go tell your parents to get stuffed.. As it stands, it is their truck and you should respect that (which it sounds like you are) and, when you have the money, buy the truck from them. While you are at college, do some routiene mainteneance on the rig. Change all the fluids, do a brake job, etc.. Learn the truck.. Then you will be more inclined to play with the truck when it is yours..
Btw, it sounds like the mechanic is taking yor parents for a spin. Where are you at?
Your buddy did not bend the AC pulley.
And if you (or him) were able to "break" the truck in a 2' mud hole you are better man than I am. I (and my friends) beat the living crap out of my LC for years (shearing leaf pins and putting the tires into the fenders) Managed to get 4' of air under the REAR tires out at the Mint 400 one year, blew out the stock shocks at 15K of a 85 FJ60 while banzaing down a mountain cause we found a guy trying to commit suicide (he got help) I have not been able to bend a pulley..
Heck, I put my 40 through every possibel ringer I can. And it has not bent a pulley.
That being said, I would not go tell your parents to get stuffed.. As it stands, it is their truck and you should respect that (which it sounds like you are) and, when you have the money, buy the truck from them. While you are at college, do some routiene mainteneance on the rig. Change all the fluids, do a brake job, etc.. Learn the truck.. Then you will be more inclined to play with the truck when it is yours..
Btw, it sounds like the mechanic is taking yor parents for a spin. Where are you at?
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In Birmingham, Alabama. oh and I totally agree that I didnt bend the pulleys. Although it is a interesting coincidince.
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I know that this post is gotten offtopic but I like the title so lets leave it open. A quick question though Should one offroad in H4 or L4? I know that H4 is high range four wheel drive and that L4 is low range four wheel drive but ive never noticed the differece between the 2.
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My dad always put the truck in H4 so I just figured that I should too. I always that L4 was climbing up steep hills. If you havent noticed Im a newbie at this stuff, and do not really know anything that i am talking about
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After taking the truck for a spin this morning, I noticed that H4 and L4 are way different. But while were on the subject, I was wondering, mechanicaly what is the difference between the two?
You're gonna be an arts major, no?
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Im going to be a civil engineer
