Tis' the season for PHH stories

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So, let me tell you a story about a man named Jack. He had a friend named Ali, who just last week was doing PM on his LC for the big move. He called several hours into the PHH replacement. He has now named it the FHH (I think you know what the "F" stands for). Well I tell him that when I did the fuel filter and front end work that I checked my PHH out and it looked great, so I wasn't going to touch that bad boy until I had to.

The LX has sat all last week, tucked away in the garage. Friday night comes around and my wife and I jump into the LX and go meet some friends for dinner. Done with dinner we head home. Saturday morning rolls around and my father-in-law is here and we are doing some electrical work in the garage, so my wife pulls the LX out into the driveway. I look down where the LX was parked and there is wetness. I do a finger check and come up with red liquid. I walked out to where the LX is sitting and notice wetness on the concrete where it is parked. I get under it and see more red stuff on the left side of the engine. I open the hood and look down by the starter and see the wetness above it. I can't believe it, I knew it had to be some kind of joke because Ali was due to fly in and stay at the house that afternoon. Ali, wife and child fly in and get here and I give him the good news. Now because Ali is a sympathetic LC owner, he laughed his ass off.

I get done with my other Sunday projects, so Ali and I decide it is time to really have some fun. We go to Napa and get supplies. We got started sometime around 12:45-1:00. With Ali's help and supervision things are going well. Then it is time to get the engine block pinch clamp, This is the beginning of my conversion from PHH to FHH. Nothing I had would get ahold of that thing. My wife is sitting there supervising the both of us. She works in the OR so she asks if maybe one of her clamps would work. I say lets give it a try. It took me several tries to get it lined up and get the right grip on the pinch clamp and was finally able to so and get it rotated. I get the pinch clamp rotated to where I can remove it. I cut the old one off, now it is time to put the new hose on. I have now fully changed the name to FHH. Did I forget to mention that I broke the connection off of the knock sensor? I finally get everything back into position and the clamps tightend. Ali and I try to get the sensor fixed and think that we got it figured out. We button everything up, top off the radiator and I began to clean up the tools. We finished up around 3:00. Ali pulls it out of the garage and takes it around the block. He gets back and tells me the good news and the bad news.

The good news, no leaks. The bad news, check engine light is on. I guess our fix in the knock sensor didn't work. My wife and I run some errands and as of today still no leaks, so I will stop by Toyota today and pick up a new sensor.

I guess it was my turn, but with Ali helping it went pretty well. It would have gone much slower if I was doing it myself.

Anybody that has plans to do this in their future, you have my utmost sympathy.

Later,
Jack
 
I can sympathize with you, my arms look like hamburger after this weekend.

I do feel much better having a thoroughly overhauled cooling system.

I don't think FHH should be the new term, I know FHH as the Firewall Heater Hoses (the three on the valve on the firewall). Maybe FPHH? :D

:cheers:
 
Damn - I feel better - I didn't confess in my PHH replacement thread, that I to, had broken off the knock sensor connection. Fortunately, one little metal piece is still protruding from the sensor and I was able to reconnect and haven't thrown a CE light 'yet'. I do have the new sensor from Dan (expensive little bugger!) and figure I'll try to replace when I do the front brakes (which are due any time now).
 
So, does Ali go on tour with this service? Mine still sits in the driveway, waiting for me to get the right tools. Congratulations on making it a quick job...relatively speaking.
 
Lucy said:
So, does Ali go on tour with this service? Mine still sits in the driveway, waiting for me to get the right tools. Congratulations on making it a quick job...relatively speaking.


Maybe there should be a traveling PHH installer, he could make a mint, just off of this board. Best of luck. I wouldn't wish a PHH replacement on anyone.

On better note for me. I started the LX this morning to run some errands and no more CEL. Put another 40ish or so miles on it and still no CEL. Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy.:bounce:
 
It was the best 2 hours of labor I ever paid a dealer for!

A man has to know his limations:beer:
 
what's with this knock sensor issue? can it be removed or protected somehow before starting?
 
The sensor is located forward (towards the front of the motor) and a little lower than the PHH, there is a knock sensor. The best thing, if you can reach it, is to unplug it so that you are less likely to break it off. I had to epoxy the plastic back together. The wire that the pigtail plugs into seems to make it, but the plastic surrounding it takes a beating. The thing is I don't remember breaking it. I just happen to be working on the hose portion and noticed the wire hanging loose. Good luck.

Jack
 
Ok, add me to the list of people who busted their knock sensor.

Mine is broken clean off, for the most part.

I really don't want to pay for any more parts... ugh...
 
One of my office mates is an avid rock climber. Often comes back to work monday morning with severly beaten up hands from a weekend of climbing. After I did my PHH one weekend, I showed him my forarms on Monday morning, and he was impressed!
 
One of my office mates is an avid rock climber. Often comes back to work monday morning with severly beaten up hands from a weekend of climbing. After I did my PHH one weekend, I showed him my forarms on Monday morning, and he was impressed!

Try changing the PHH after a weekend of rock climbing ;) I'm glad I only did it once.
 
Lucy said:
So, does Ali go on tour with this service? .

Yup, sure do. I do the PHHs and Robbie does the head gaskets. You pay for our travel expenses and massages :D

Seriously, it was much easier to simply bark orders at Jack while I sat on the lawn chair :flipoff2: If a PHH veteran can look over your shoulder, you can have it done in less than two hours. Perhaps use Skype IM service along with a camera and I can do this remotely? Hmmm, that's a thought...!

His wife and I just chatted and made fun of him while he was cussing up a storm :flipoff2: I think that was the best part.

Ali
 
Yeah, Iam sick of the PPH hose also! I did the PPH on my wife's LX450, then My FZJ80...then a few days later helped a friend do his on his FZJ80. All three were a pain the the :censor:

I hope to never do another PHH hose again!!!!!! :D
 
alia176 said:
His wife and I just chatted and made fun of him while he was cussing up a storm :flipoff2: I think that was the best part.

Ali

Yeah that crappy song "That what friends are for" kept running through my head as I read that.:flipoff2:
 
alia176 said:
Yup, sure do. I do the PHHs and Robbie does the head gaskets. You pay for our travel expenses and massages :D

Hmmm...6 hours in the driveway vs. a greyhound bus ticket, a tent in the backyard, and my kids walking on your back...might be worth it. :grinpimp:

Nah, I'd treat you right. The mechanic I took it to initially for a quote said it could be anywhere from 1/2 hour to 7 1/2 hours. I wasn't willing to risk the 7 1/2 hours on my credit card. A plane ticket and expenses WOULD have been cheaper! I would have bought you a case of your favorite beverage too!
 
Brentbba said:
Damn - I feel better - I didn't confess in my PHH replacement thread, that I to, had broken off the knock sensor connection. Fortunately, one little metal piece is still protruding from the sensor and I was able to reconnect and haven't thrown a CE light 'yet'. I do have the new sensor from Dan (expensive little bugger!) and figure I'll try to replace when I do the front brakes (which are due any time now).

Well - front brakes were done Sunday afternoon and the Knock Sensor went on as well. 27mm deep socket, one universal wiggle thing to allow for the angle of approach and two 10" extensions made removing the old sensor and putting the new sensor in a 5 minute job at most. Interestingly, the inside portion of the old sensor was as clean as the new sensor.
 

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