tire spindles

[crushers]

seems posting in chat isn't the best idea for actual serious feedback so lets try it here:
Tire Carrier Swingout Heavy Duty Hinge Kit
or this:
Heavy Duty Spindle Assemblies | 4×4 Labs

they will be installed on upper and lower rear side bar / bumper mounts so the load will be shared:

 

[Combat Chuck]

I've heard good things about the people and workmanship of 4X4 Labs. I'd also side with them in preference, just because many of their team are fairly involved with the Cruiser Community.

 

[crushers]

thanks for the feed back

 

[psfpilot]

Go with Luke's.

I bought one that looks suspiciously like the regular-duty item from the A-Z Fab item that you posted. In retrospect I wish I had spent the extra few bucks for a higher quality item to use in a single-point-of-failure application.

 

[ForealBoreal]

Jason from cruisin offroad uses this : Tire Carrier : EMS Offroad, Custom 4x4 Fabrications
Its just another option. Beefy is better, after all its a cruiser.
That troopy is going to be bad ass.

 

[psfpilot]

These two appear to be the same product offered by different retailers.


A-Z:

EMS:

 

[Combat Chuck]

The plot thickens...

 

[DanS HJ-45]

Wayne:

Since you are mounting them on both upper and lower, you have plenty of extra strength there. Very nice.

I'm 99% sure that most of those are still based on the 1" tire trailer spindle. Great thing IMHO, just because then you can pick up new bearings at any auto parts store pretty much anywhere. I bought my spindle from a trailer supply shop for just that reason (it was cheap too, like $20), but I haven't yet built a swing out for the tire carrier (and after 2+ years, I don't know if I will).

BTW--I keep a little pipe that fits real tight over the spindle to protect it, with a bit of grease on there while there's no tire carrier on it, which would also work great for a low weight swingout. I'd have to go measure, it was a pretty odd size of pipe, but I bought the minimum length and cut about a foot of it for my protector and the same for a friend who takes his swingout off for driving around town.

Dan

 

[crushers]

i was thinking a rubber pipe over the spindle when the tires are off would work. drill it to friction fit, insert with grease and done ... maybe.

i was thinking that 2 3500 lbs spindles would be a touch overkill for a 150 lbs of tire...

 

[psfpilot]

they will be installed on upper and lower rear side bar / bumper mounts so the load will be shared:

Wayne:

Since you are mounting them on both upper and lower, you have plenty of extra strength there. Very nice.

Ha- my reading comprehenshun is lacking. A pair of the skinny ones will more than suffice. Looking forward to seeing the completed artwork.

 

[Combat Chuck]

Wayne-
Is this for the pictured rig, or is that 70 just ideal wheelbase for your build?
If not, could it be for your 1PZ rig you built?

 

[crushers]

https://forum.ih8mud.com/70-series-tech/436341-troopie-build.html

 

[Combat Chuck]

Shiny! thanks!

 

[rusty_tlc]

Somebody should give this one a try.
PIVOT KING...THE SQUARE TUBE PIVOT AXLE

 

[LAMBCRUSHER]

That looks purdy cool. I think they got a good price on the lock pins for sure.

 

[photogod]

Check out Comp 4x4. They have two sizes and the spindle sleeve to help in the welding and not overheating the spindle to reduce hardening and cracking. They use cold rolled to reduce cracking and to give a bit of flex to the spindle. Weld the sleeve and not the spindle and the sleeve expands to capture the spindle. 1 1/4' is the bare minimum for tire carrier strength. One inch is to small IMHO.

 

[Cruisin']

Check out Comp 4x4. They have two sizes and the spindle sleeve to help in the welding and not overheating the spindle to reduce hardening and cracking. They use cold rolled to reduce cracking and to give a bit of flex to the spindle. Weld the sleeve and not the spindle and the sleeve expands to capture the spindle. 1 1/4' is the bare minimum for tire carrier strength. One inch is to small IMHO.

A local builder used these for a tire carrier he did. After about a year it loosened up a bit and started to rattle. A really great theory behind them, but maybe not the best in actual use. Would be interested to hear if anyone else had experienced this with the removable pin type setup.

 

[crushers]

i ended up ordering the HD from A-Z.
reason, 3500 lb capacity was way overkill for my application. i could have went with the LD but a 35" tire and steel rim and wheel support frame work bouncing over 40,000 km of dirt roads and logging/mexico/road to alaska/south america roads might cause an issue for the smaller spindles.

will report back my findings in a week or two.

 

[Cruisin']

Wayne, another thing to consider in the build of the swingout is that when I set mine up, the load is not supported entirely on the spindle when it is closed and latched. I put a plastic rub strip on the bumper and the bottom of the swingout arm which contact each other when closed, and the latch applies pressure to them. This way the spindle is not supporting the whole load. Still good to go beefy!

-Jason

 

[crushers]

agree completely.
spindle top and bottom as well as rub plate and secure latching.
thanks for the feedback guys.