Time to Upgrade- Lift and Tire Size Choices (35 v 37's)?
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Yup - FOR uses relatively short shocks (about 9.75"), which is why I never rubbed with 35's on stock rims while people with L's on 6" lifts do, and why 37s were a relatively easy fit on a 3.5" lift.
It is easier to fit 37's when you are trying to optimize travel rather than maximize it.
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Tools, thanks for the more in depth specifics on what I need to deal with to make things work.
My garage is 7'11" so I'm not worried. I can pull in now with the high-lift poking up the top now. 80 only goes in the garage to be worked on, otherwise, she spends her days in the sun. I don't think I've ever even been in a parking garage with it.
Interesting about shorter shocks working better. I rubb both inner fenders now with my current set-up. I like the idea of the FOR to keep things lower and "optimize" travel. I spoke with Frankie months back and he was working on a heavy lift for loaded trucks. I saw a recent post of some guy with a 7K pound truck and the FOR lift, but I'm not sure if this is a one off or open to the masses. Perhaps a call to Frankie is in order again.
I'm finding that I'm good at replacing parts on the truck, I can put any lift you want on, pretty good at easy diagnostics, wired the auxilary tank, but I still get a bad feeling about tinkering beyond cut here....then hit this with a hammer. I guess I leave the figuring out of problems (nightmare or not) to what I do at work. At home I want to bolt it up, make minor adjustments and drive.
I'm a driver at heart and less of a worker on the truck (Enough to keep up with PM and worn out stuff).
TR
My garage is 7'11" so I'm not worried. I can pull in now with the high-lift poking up the top now. 80 only goes in the garage to be worked on, otherwise, she spends her days in the sun. I don't think I've ever even been in a parking garage with it.
Interesting about shorter shocks working better. I rubb both inner fenders now with my current set-up. I like the idea of the FOR to keep things lower and "optimize" travel. I spoke with Frankie months back and he was working on a heavy lift for loaded trucks. I saw a recent post of some guy with a 7K pound truck and the FOR lift, but I'm not sure if this is a one off or open to the masses. Perhaps a call to Frankie is in order again.
I'm finding that I'm good at replacing parts on the truck, I can put any lift you want on, pretty good at easy diagnostics, wired the auxilary tank, but I still get a bad feeling about tinkering beyond cut here....then hit this with a hammer. I guess I leave the figuring out of problems (nightmare or not) to what I do at work. At home I want to bolt it up, make minor adjustments and drive.
I'm a driver at heart and less of a worker on the truck (Enough to keep up with PM and worn out stuff).
TR
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I didn't mean to say it works better, just easier to achieve.
Rig setup needs to be matched to the terrain where it will be wheeled. I have run short travel setup and wheel with several rigs setup this way. I see my currant longer travel setup as an advantage for the local terrain, less wheel lift, more even ground pressure among the tires, better traction, etc. I can often, easily make climbs unlocked, where others are spinning, lifting tires, have to lock to make it.
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So, it's about the eloquence of the words that make a good setup? I like to describe mine as; optimized to use the maximum available travel within the design constraints of the vehicle.
Absolutely
And you know, it is much harder to run 37's than 35's, at least up to the point where you start doing some actual driving
Of course, this is the crowd that thought you needed 5" of lift to run 35's optimally a few years back, and I'm running 37's quite optimally on a 3.5" lift, so we have to go one convert at a time
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My understanding is that this will be a production lift.
This thread once again reminds me how much I wish there was a 36" TrXus. Hmmm where have I heard that before? Or any other reasonable 36" tire I could DD. Just can't bring myself to Irocks or traditional swampers.
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Corbet,
Do you come down to Farm much? What do you think would work well for here?
TR
Do you come down to Farm much? What do you think would work well for here?
TR
See ya next week on Spike. Better bring your hip waders, the forecast is 80% chance if rain. That and,, my experience is, the BS flows even deeper on trail Mud than interweb Mud!
Spike on Thursday...
The 37" Cooper STT really fits this bill. It is narrow enough to make up for being slightly larger than a 36, and 36's usually run big for some reason...
36" Trxus would be a perfect tire for the 80.
So Nay...When are you going to the 38.5x14.50 Trxus
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My wife says that if I don't go 37's the meathead in me will never live it down. I think she doesn't want me talking about it all over again in a few years.
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Listen to your wife!
If your wife wants you to get 37s, do it. Why are you even asking us? 
Brian at ACC toyota is running 37 km2s. OME heavy rears and medium fronts with a custom built spacer. Sits awesome, flexes awesome, etc.
Its his dd and his wheeler. And he wheels it hard. He is runnin 5.29s now.
Im runnin 285s on mine and really like it. I have a zuk on 38.5s i dont need a big 80. You gotta decide what youre gonna REALLY do with the rig. Worst thing you can do is say"i really WANT 35s or 37s cuz i MIGHT one day go wheelin with the big boys." and then realize that 33s or 35s woulda been perfect cuz you really dont get to go do the big stuff as often as you want.
Not sayin you dont wheel hard or that you do wheel hard. I have no idea about that. Im just sayin that buy what best suits what youre gonna use the truck for 60% of the time. The other 40% of the time you just gotta suck it up.
IE--my zuk can be a dd, but its huge and spooled and has full hydro, etc. Its not a driver but can be. I built it to wheel hard, when im driving on the highway i just deal with the bs associated with be a hardcore rig.
Hope i havent stepped on any toes or upset anybody, im only saying what i say to everybody that asks about tire size, style, etc.
Will
Its his dd and his wheeler. And he wheels it hard. He is runnin 5.29s now.
Im runnin 285s on mine and really like it. I have a zuk on 38.5s i dont need a big 80. You gotta decide what youre gonna REALLY do with the rig. Worst thing you can do is say"i really WANT 35s or 37s cuz i MIGHT one day go wheelin with the big boys." and then realize that 33s or 35s woulda been perfect cuz you really dont get to go do the big stuff as often as you want.
Not sayin you dont wheel hard or that you do wheel hard. I have no idea about that. Im just sayin that buy what best suits what youre gonna use the truck for 60% of the time. The other 40% of the time you just gotta suck it up.
IE--my zuk can be a dd, but its huge and spooled and has full hydro, etc. Its not a driver but can be. I built it to wheel hard, when im driving on the highway i just deal with the bs associated with be a hardcore rig.
Hope i havent stepped on any toes or upset anybody, im only saying what i say to everybody that asks about tire size, style, etc.
Will
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I vote for 35s and FOR 3.5.
So Nay...When are you going to the 38.5x14.50 Trxus
Not until I have $12K of play money to also do a set of custom high pinion Currie D60's, which with four kids means never
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For ease and b/c of my bias toward bolt on projects, I'm leaning towards the 35's to start on what I have. I will talk with Frankie later about his heavier weight set up.
Good to hear from you Ali!
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Good to hear from you Ali!
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Yep.
The Coopers are a big 36", IIRC a little over 36" when new and mounted on the rims that I run.
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I disagree. Mine is my DD, also my only wheeler, I get out as much as I can, ~30 trail days a year, of those a few are 4+ out of 5. I would guess 90% of the miles are road, it would take a dedicated trail rig around here to get to 40% trail. A typical trail day is ~40mi+ highway trip to the trail ~15mi trail and ~40mi+ home, toss in DD miles and the majority are road, even on a rig that gets wheeled a lot.
Mine is setup to comfortably run the most challenging trails that I want to run and "suck it up" the rest of the time. In my experience the biggest drawback to the big tires is the price, they are $$$.
