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Holy moly!!! Yeah, I guess the undercarriage on this ‘14 doesn’t look so bad after all.
Thoughts on undercarriage?
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Holy moly!!! Yeah, I guess the undercarriage on this ‘14 doesn’t look so bad after all.
Again my only real concern would be the KDSS valves. If you can turn them at all with a 5mm Hex wrench then you’re fine, just slather then with marine grease whenever you get the oil changed. If you can’t open them however it can be costly to fix. You definitely need to open them for any suspension work, not just adding a lift but for front strut replacement and other repairs, so make sure they’re working or the dealer replaces it
Aside from that most of the rust will come off with a wire brush and some effort. Paint what’s there once you’re done and apply a coating of fluid film every fall and I’d consider it ok
Aside from that most of the rust will come off with a wire brush and some effort. Paint what’s there once you’re done and apply a coating of fluid film every fall and I’d consider it ok
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The dealer is putting it on a lift in the morning and inspecting it for me including pictures/video. I asked my salesman to go ahead and spray some rust loosener like liquid wrench and let it sit over night. I explained how they need to be very careful and not strip the hex bolt. He said his master tech would look at it, and if it doesn't turn easy, they will continue to soak it with rust loosener. It was sold on 11/13, so it's just over 4 years of road use, and with only 18k miles, I am hoping the valves will open without too much trouble. Fingers crossed.
Thanks for the insight!
No way, definitely pass - not worth the headache.
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I think it’s a little on the steep side for price.
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Rust doesn't look too bad. You live in upstate NY so even if you buy a clean truck and take really good care of it you're going to have some rust after a few years. If they can turn the KDSS valve I wouldn't let the rust stop me.
I think that’s he had them check it out and see if it’s rusted that bad they’ll snap on the master mechanic what he’s doing is confirming then he can get in there and clean it up with neutralizer and wire brush and it up
Did someone say rust? This was a 2008 from Whitefish, MT, a supposed non-rustbelt state.
Personally I hate rust and I make sure my vehicles have none on them but for an upstate New York LC this one looks real good and the rust is surface not a big problem definitely clean it up and keep it clean. A 2014 with mileage in the teens is a great fine especially for around $55,000
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When you ask if "KDSS works"...what is meant is...**can the KDSS valves be loosened/turned freely.**
The KDSS system will "work" even if rusted in place, but dealing with suspension will be a big problem if they cannot be loosened.
Don't loosen them more than three full turns, by the way!
Just check to see that they are not rusted in place. If you can turn them AT ALL...they are OK. If not...major hassles can ensue.
Personal opinion:
It might be correctable as others have said, but at $55k, just thinkin you can probably do better.
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I got an 08 with similar "surface rust". Got it for cheap and had a body shop redo the undercarriage.
2008 Land Cruiser surface rust, before/after
If I had to redo this, I would probably be a bit more patient and find a cruiser in better shape. Working on a cruiser with rust is a PITA.
2008 Land Cruiser surface rust, before/after
If I had to redo this, I would probably be a bit more patient and find a cruiser in better shape. Working on a cruiser with rust is a PITA.
You can coat and neutralize what's visible. The problem is all the fasenters. Forever you'll be fighting frozen hardware. Not to mention KDSS.
The new coating is not too bad to break loose tbh. It’s the rust on the threads that’s the biggest PITA
We purchased a brand new/untitled 16’ LC in August and live in Columbus (OH). After reading threads on this site, I contacted several Toyota dealerships regarding advice on undercoating before the vehicle ventured into its first winter. All advised against and claimed the vehicle was treated appropriately direct from the factory & rust damage is covered under warranty. One service manager admitted it was a problem in earlier model years but should not be a problem on a 16’. Also, there were concerns raised regarding “locking in moisture” and potentially making matters worse.
Like many states around the country, Central Ohio is experiencing sub freezing temperatures and salt covered roads. The topic is definitely a concern and I’m not sure what to believe. We chose the LC based on overall value as relates to reliability, dependability, and resale values. We plan to keep for decade or so. Any additional information or feedback would be greatly appreciated!
Like many states around the country, Central Ohio is experiencing sub freezing temperatures and salt covered roads. The topic is definitely a concern and I’m not sure what to believe. We chose the LC based on overall value as relates to reliability, dependability, and resale values. We plan to keep for decade or so. Any additional information or feedback would be greatly appreciated!
