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The Long Overdue RastaRig Buildup
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Yeah, TurboBinder I'm hearing this.
Thx for heads-up!
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Georg, as always you came through as promised: prompt & parts looks sweet for the radiator bracket. Thx A'Mucho!i have all the rad backetts for you as well. call me in the morning and i'll send them up to you unless you want to come down to stockton and pick them up. you can buy me lunch.........
georg @ valley hybrids
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anytime!!!! 
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I really like the way you painted the engine. I'm looking forward to doing a similar build on my truck. Just wanted to check, What type of nv4500 did you end up using?
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Stevo I think it was for a 2000 Dodge. And thanks for the compliment!
So here is some larger/hi-res pics to inspire you:
https://picasaweb.google.com/Freedo...?authkey=Gv1sRgCIXcr5e6kNeYQQ&feat=directlink
Are you going to run it with AC? The AC setup in the 4BT powered 60 I had was very kludgy and didn't work all that well. Just wondering if you were going to tackle that problem.
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were you guys able to make the driveshafts work?
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You know there was some issue still outstanding----but I was so engrossed in my new dilemma, I hadn't the patience to pay attention. Small hiccup in the plan to install the AC pump and radiator: seems I overlooked a measurement or two and being the rookie-in-training I still am.... engine placement was about 1/2in too far RIGHT and 1 in too far FWD in frame. Exit on rad didn't clear crank and AC was 1/4in to wide.
Oh well. Be about a 1/2 day's worth of cutting moving and re-welding engine mounts.
Then it rained. Find out what we do when it rains and progress still has to proceed.
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https://forum.ih8mud.com/expedition-builds/464601-when-rains-we.html
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Hmm. You know David I don't know. Cumminscruiser has been running a great meat-locker-like Dodge AC setup that's been fine for 12-13 yrs. Frankly, it's too cold. To be honest, all I know at this point is that it runs the dodge pump and stock Toy cab AC components along with a Toy AC condensor up front of rad. The lines and evaporator (can like thing I always forget the name to) may be Dodge or just Toyota as was found on the 60.
Heck, I need to just get the pump to work.... I know the Toy stock AC rocked but so does the Dodge pump as far as I'm aware. I'll keep all posted though...
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By the way,
What did you feel made the 4BT setup you're familiar with ... "kludgy"?
What did you feel made the 4BT setup you're familiar with ... "kludgy"?
The bracket that was used to mount the Toyota compressor. It was cantilevered off of the thermostat housing and caused a lot of stress on the mounting bolts (broke 2).
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Aah, I see. Why the Dodge AC wasn't just put on the 4BT----did they ever have? I thought about keeping the Toy AC compressor at one point but then the issue became how do I mount to existing place on block----it was easier to stick to finding the original Dodge pump and use the mounting points. Alot of vibration on that thing. And the bolts (four total on mine) are not that big! Maybe 12mm head but the shaft itself hit me as being kind of small for the torque I think is kicking back from the AC unit.
But, I'm no AC Man
)In end, the 6BT serpentine belt wraps around everything and the less I muck with the original layout of components and things like belts, I thought I'd minimize my problems later.
I'm naturally bent on complicating things (come on, I could say ALOT of my descriptions in my threads alot simpler, right? LOL) so keeping things SIMPLE is an exercise in self-discipline.
Believe me!
Yeah, if you're lucky to live in a cool area and don't have 100 degree days like we do, I'd run it without AC as well. 
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Okay, Okay. We're kinda heat whimps over here...Yeah, if you're lucky to live in a cool area and don't have 100 degree days like we do, I'd run it without AC as well.
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--davegonz
Oh, I WILL get the AC in for sure. We do get 112-14 occasionally. Yeah, know...global warming has caused the sac Valley area to hit these temps maybe a total of 2 wks out of year now.
Not sure if you saw my major bummer recently: the engine needs to be moved over and back to allow not just the AC Dodge pump installation but also give me needed clearance for radiator. I'm not doing intercooler so that won't be an issue... YET.
Oh, I WILL get the AC in for sure. We do get 112-14 occasionally. Yeah, know...global warming has caused the sac Valley area to hit these temps maybe a total of 2 wks out of year now.
Not sure if you saw my major bummer recently: the engine needs to be moved over and back to allow not just the AC Dodge pump installation but also give me needed clearance for radiator. I'm not doing intercooler so that won't be an issue... YET.
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A Prelude to A Small Regression...
Bringing things up-to-date - plumbing cleanup taking off what I think was the remnants on the 6BT to an automatic tranny cooler. One fitting came off the block near top just below the radiator/thermostat point on engine here. The other is down below at lower radiator connection to block.
Quick before/after showing fitting. I know this detail isn't probably at all necessary---but I've decided to just put some of these more mundane things up thinking it might help out someone whose thinking of doing a 6BT.
Bringing things up-to-date - plumbing cleanup taking off what I think was the remnants on the 6BT to an automatic tranny cooler. One fitting came off the block near top just below the radiator/thermostat point on engine here. The other is down below at lower radiator connection to block.
Quick before/after showing fitting. I know this detail isn't probably at all necessary---but I've decided to just put some of these more mundane things up thinking it might help out someone whose thinking of doing a 6BT.
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A Prelude to A Small Regression - XOVER TUBE
Next up was doing something about my crossover tube... out of the turbo and into the manifold. This is what I have:
What I'd like to put:
.... and, I actually have this---but you know I paid too much for the AC compressor from the Dodge and need to sell this nice piece to bring that net outgo down. Besides, I've grown to like the term "Cummins" over "Dodge"
Next up was doing something about my crossover tube... out of the turbo and into the manifold. This is what I have:
What I'd like to put:
.... and, I actually have this---but you know I paid too much for the AC compressor from the Dodge and need to sell this nice piece to bring that net outgo down. Besides, I've grown to like the term "Cummins" over "Dodge"
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A Prelude to A Small Regression... XOVER/Turbo
I ended up hacking up the old xover tube and just welding it to fit. Not the prettiest thing but this is to keep things moving and funds available for more important things:
With this done, I had to think about finally machining a piece to weld into the downtube going into the turbo. I'm making the whole exhaust from scratch using a few 180deg mandrel bent 3in tubes and straight pieces. So, that downtube doesn't exist yet. The downtube *end* needs to have the right grooves to match the ones currently on turbo to be able to clamp down.
Turbo end:
An example of where I need to go here:
I ended up hacking up the old xover tube and just welding it to fit. Not the prettiest thing but this is to keep things moving and funds available for more important things:
With this done, I had to think about finally machining a piece to weld into the downtube going into the turbo. I'm making the whole exhaust from scratch using a few 180deg mandrel bent 3in tubes and straight pieces. So, that downtube doesn't exist yet. The downtube *end* needs to have the right grooves to match the ones currently on turbo to be able to clamp down.
Turbo end:
An example of where I need to go here:
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A Prelude to A Small Regression - Downtube
A machinist I am not but I do find the whole discipline extremely intriguing. So, I decided to use the lathe to turn a hunk of 4in metal starting out at 12in and turning it down to just over 3in so it will match the grooves on the turbo housing.
Because this was so much fun and took darn well near two days at my sluggish, ever-so-careful pace, I feel compelled to painfully document this. LOL, sorry about that!
I learned of clever little things called by such odd names as *end mills*. Who knows I may even have that term wrong:
A machinist I am not but I do find the whole discipline extremely intriguing. So, I decided to use the lathe to turn a hunk of 4in metal starting out at 12in and turning it down to just over 3in so it will match the grooves on the turbo housing.
Because this was so much fun and took darn well near two days at my sluggish, ever-so-careful pace, I feel compelled to painfully document this. LOL, sorry about that!
I learned of clever little things called by such odd names as *end mills*. Who knows I may even have that term wrong:
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