The Long Overdue RastaRig Buildup

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You been running that spring perch setup up front for a while? Seems too easy?

And you deifnately got a pair dropping a 6bt into one of these, I am very aware of what these engines are about, let alone capable of. Thats awesome.


Oh, and




Pass that s*** over here too. :smokin:
 
Holy hell, how did I miss this thread?!? Fantastic work thus far. I have long dreamed of installing a 6BT in my 60 yet I feel many nay-sayers said that it was too big of a motor. I'm looking forward to how awesome this truck sounds when it is all finished!

BTW, in post 22 were you referring to the lack of clearance to the radiator or to the front axle?
 
Holy hell, how did I miss this thread?!? Fantastic work thus far. I have long dreamed of installing a 6BT in my 60 yet I feel many nay-sayers said that it was too big of a motor. I'm looking forward to how awesome this truck sounds when it is all finished!

BTW, in post 22 were you referring to the lack of clearance to the radiator or to the front axle?

If they're telling you it's too big of a motor, then they're just compensating for something...
 
If they're telling you it's too big of a motor, then they're just compensating for something...
Oh Chuck of Combat .... most agreed. Seems simple:
4BT in a 40
6BT in a 60

The Tales History tells.... of 'Sayers Sayin' it
couldn't or
shouldn't
...be done....

until behold
it was.
It IS done.

Who knows... I may be the first to blow out every gear in the transfer case as I take on some little 18in rock and I climb ....up it's little face and, somehow scream up the 6BT torque curve only to find I've sent each gear into a planetary orbit all their own...
 
Holy hell, how did I miss this thread?!? Fantastic work thus far. I have long dreamed of installing a 6BT in my 60 yet I feel many nay-sayers said that it was too big of a motor. I'm looking forward to how awesome this truck sounds when it is all finished!

BTW, in post 22 were you referring to the lack of clearance to the radiator or to the front axle?
..neither...
the tie-rods
 
..neither...
the tie-rods

Gotcha.

How much heavier is the 6BT over the 2F?

What level of tune to you intend to run with this motor? I've read on the cummins forums that they can put out just about as much power as you want them to. Worried at all about blowing out the axles the first time you step on the gas?
 
Gotcha.

How much heavier is the 6BT over the 2F?

What level of tune to you intend to run with this motor? I've read on the cummins forums that they can put out just about as much power as you want them to. Worried at all about blowing out the axles the first time you step on the gas?
Oh, I don't think the 6BT is more than a few hundred over the 2F----and, likely 200. I believe I remember this from a 6BT wt spec in a svc manual breaking out engine stamp #'s and comparing that with the same for a 2F at some point.

Then again, moo main R----------f'r potent, so Ay, Man.... I coon only conjec-ture at times. If by level of tune you mean "expertise applied to desired performance standard"----well, then this where I reveal my current level of ignorance. My desire tune is "running" Man----she doesn't do me proud as she is except to yell Potential. Too moony R'frs died a dry death from seeing Time sap their Sacred Spirit oot and let stale in. No matter how much torque she has, if it never get to wheel, it all for not. Level of tune is taking the Holset it came with and making sure it is CONNECTED to the right side of the intake and the correct side of the exhaust and let 'er rip.

I'm learning about diesels----and from what I know I'd say I'm not quite ready to leave the hi-chair. Oh, I've thrown some food around here but, Man .... you don't make Trail by beating your proverbial tin-can chest... someday you have to Eat Trail. So, the axle-blowing thing----as you might have read from Cumminscruiser's buildup (https://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons/460308-reserected-fj60.html), he's been running his 6BT'd60 for over a decade. What I can say is that one thing are issues I realized and all you guys likely know already is various play areas in your driveline as places where mishap breeds. Slightly loose bolts between txfr case companion flange and mate on drivelines----leads to strong sheer moments when spin and force conspire. So I think having "tight" links down your whole driveline becomes a major concern with a powertrain like the 6BT living long. Oh, and a foot that is light and quick to shift in response to changing trail demands----not much time when that torque wants to overwhelm a little rock wall but the speed your trying to do that simply blows through the limits of things. Aah, by speed I say rotational kind of thing. So I guess that it the real test when such a large power plant meets a chassis----where are all the weak links. Are some in the gearing limits setup by the transfer case? Or in how loose/tight all the pieces are within your driveline? I maybe dumb but it seems to me the axles may never see as much Force as any of the driveline links?

I do know one thing---this is a learning Journey and you'll all benefit from my...
Mistakes!

Passin' the R-------r along....
 
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You been running that spring perch setup up front for a while? Seems too easy?

And you deifnately got a pair dropping a 6bt into one of these, I am very aware of what these engines are about, let alone capable of. Thats awesome.


Oh, and... Pass that s*** over here too. :smokin:

Eey Kyle---- well springs as they were always except for the hi-steer and SOA. Simple, but I think there's more to be done with the suspension... oh nothing crazy just a few things maybe to up the articulation? I'll post some pics showing where Cumminscruiser took his on the suspension side. There's a few changes he made I'll probably do. But----only do after mine drives, after all, this is a Rehabilitate because while it has a 6BT resting on its rails, the 2F simply was too badly running for my tastes or temperament. And, well, DMV---Cali was around the corner.

You know----you mentioned you have parts for all things 60----I'm trying to put this newly-welded radiator into the frame and noticed last Sunday that the darn thing has not "L" brackets on either side. Those are the ones mating to the horizontal supports-"L"s directly bolting to front panel. Any chance you have two of those? They have 4 holes for the bolts on each side of rad.

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Thx Man----
Oh, and here is R-----f'r for ya.
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I see what you are after. If I have some, they would be from an 88FJ62, but probably work, no?

Let me scope out my shop some time real soon, and if I have them they will be in the mail to ya. On me. :cheers:
 
I see what you are after. If I have some, they would be from an 88FJ62, but probably work, no?

Let me scope out my shop some time real soon, and if I have them they will be in the mail to ya. On me. :cheers:
Too kind, too kind Ma Man Kyle! Ja know, if the clouds be thick as sticks one long, dark night... ain the Moon just shining so, eey may just carve your name on them bracket soods. "Donated~72rockcruiser".

That's hilarious actually----"Dis cruiser built entirely by donations from supportive Cruiser Heads. See parts for specifics"
 
i have all the rad backetts for you as well. call me in the morning and i'll send them up to you unless you want to come down to stockton and pick them up. you can buy me lunch.........:)

georg @ valley hybrids
 
I hear you man, lol. I've been pouring through Cumminsforum.com, reading about all different modifications that people do, which is why I was curious. I have yet to get my mitts on one of these motors so I have to live vicariously through the likes of you:lol:

Excellent work thus far, keep it up!
 
Nice build! Don't forget to do the KDP (Killer Dowel Pin) fix before you button it all up. You might also want to do a remote oil filter install. It's a pain in the ass to do an oil filter change under all the crap on that side.
 
Nice build! Don't forget to do the KDP (Killer Dowel Pin) fix before you button it all up. You might also want to do a remote oil filter install. It's a pain in the ass to do an oil filter change under all the crap on that side.

I agree.
 
Nice build! Don't forget to do the KDP (Killer Dowel Pin) fix before you button it all up. You might also want to do a remote oil filter install. It's a pain in the ass to do an oil filter change under all the crap on that side.
You know... I vaguely recall running across the Killer Dowel thing on some thread ---problem is I read so many Cruiser threads and Dodge/Cummins threads I forget which is which. I think that is in the tranny though for a Toy no? Am I wrong on that? Or is it in the NV4500? Or was it the transfer case.... oh, well, lookie there....your post has a LINK. Beautiful! And, much appreciated----nothin' like going into the foreign woods and not have a clue about what lurks.
 
I see what you are after. If I have some, they would be from an 88FJ62, but probably work, no?

Let me scope out my shop some time real soon, and if I have them they will be in the mail to ya. On me. :cheers:
Heya Kyle, looks like Da Man I bought the rad from has the brackets----let's hold off taking ur time and dollar and see what Georg comes up with. Again, thx for the offer!
 
i have all the rad backetts for you as well. call me in the morning and i'll send them up to you unless you want to come down to stockton and pick them up. you can buy me lunch.........:)

georg @ valley hybrids
Georg---that's great. I'll ring ya up Friday morn'. Thx.
 

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