The Frame of Frames :-)

[ranger]

Wow! Thats a load of cash to spend on rust removal of just the frame.
Other than taking the frame completely apart don't know ho else to get it that purty! Even media blasting won't get to all the places.

 

[Soul_Man]

make sure the imron can go on galv. w/o any kind of tiecoat primer.. dont think it can

Corlar 2.1 ST primer can go on galvanized steel, that with the Imron 3.5 provides some SICK ASTM figures (see http://www.performancecoatings.dupont.com/dpc/en/us/html/prodinfo/dic/Imron3-5HG.pdf and check out the 3000 hour salt fog test results ). That's what is going on the frame and undersurface of body.

For the body: Variprime 615S Self-etching primer is for galvanized steel (will follow with an epoxy primer and Chromapremier single-stage)

 

[lavarunner]

cool just want to make sure you checked that..

sounds like you have a good jobber.. My jobber for dupont SUCKS!!!

 

[Soul_Man]

Lava, I actually haven't been super impressed with the DuPont jobber (FinishMaster) for custom paint stuff (all the things I've painted previously have been my jet skis). I got a lot of good information from calling DuPont's 1-800 number (800-338-7668). I sent them an e-mail with some questions and the tech coordinator there (Mario Pena) wrote back telling me to call. He was very helpful in getting my project sorted out from metal to topcoat

 

[dgangle]

Who galvanized this for you, Metalplate? I do alot of business with them on the burner systems. They do my small stuff for free but I haven't called the frame IOU, yet.

 

[JJS]

Hell, I wouldn't put a body on it!

Ed

me neither, how would anybody see that nice frame? looks good.

 

[dallen341]

Corlar 2.1 ST primer can go on galvanized steel, that with the Imron 3.5 provides some SICK ASTM figures (see http://www.performancecoatings.dupont.com/dpc/en/us/html/prodinfo/dic/Imron3-5HG.pdf and check out the 3000 hour salt fog test results ). That's what is going on the frame and undersurface of body.

For the body: Variprime 615S Self-etching primer is for galvanized steel (will follow with an epoxy primer and Chromapremier single-stage)

I don't know if you noticed, but the 3,000 hour salt fog rating is at 12 mil dry finish thickness. It looks like 2-2.5 mil dry finish is recomended for spray finish.

I'm using the satin finish version of the same paint for my 40.

Don

 

[rusmannx]

my frame barely has paint on it.... but it still works like any other frame.
seems like a lot of money to me for a frame (of course, i'm broke).

 

[Soul_Man]

I don't know if you noticed, but the 3,000 hour salt fog rating is at 12 mil dry finish thickness. It looks like 2-2.5 mil dry finish is recomended for spray finish.

I didn't notice that. I'm planning on putting it on fairly thick .... hang on....

Just went back and looked again. The total dry film of 12 mils if for the primer plus topcoat. On the Corlar 2.1 ST they recommend (for use as a primer) a Dry Film of 3-8 mils. So if you do an 8 mil primer and 2.5 topcoat, that would at least give you 10.5 mils. I'm sure I'll be adding a mil here and there (especially since I don't have a guage) so I bet I'll be in the 12+ mil range. You can go 10-12 mils with the Corlar 2.1 for "immersion" service (although it sounds like with "immersion service" you don't topcoat it).

Thanks for pointing that out, I hadn't really thought that much about the film build, and certainly did not notice it on the tech sheet.

my frame barely has paint on it.... but it still works like any other frame.
seems like a lot of money to me for a frame (of course, i'm broke).

Rust killed my 'Cruiser once (well, at least it put it on life support for the last 7 years) and I am never ever let it rust again if there is anything I can do about it! This is the ONLY shot I get, once it is back together it will require another frame-off to do any serious fixing.

 

[Soul_Man]

Who galvanized this for you, Metalplate? I do alot of business with them on the burner systems. They do my small stuff for free but I haven't called the frame IOU, yet.

South Atlantic: http://www.southatlanticllc.com/ga.htm in Claxton GA.

I called Metalplate (they have a tank in Jacksonville, about 30 min away compared to 3 hours for GA) but they said they don't do any automotive stuff. They didn't seem helpful. I was originally asking about the body cowl and the frame, but you can't do the body parts as they will warp. I asked if they would do the frame and that's when they said they don't do any automotive stuff. I think that is BS, but the South Atlantic guys were very helpful so they got my business (at the cost of 12 hours driving (2 trips)).

 

[dgangle]

Yea, Metalplate knows what is profitable and that is the key to staying alive in that business. I know they do boatloads of, er, a boat trailers at JAX but it is really quick work for many items. They cater highly to industrial customers. Thanks for the great post and useful info.

 

[Soul_Man]

Just an update:

Got some nice coats of epoxy primer (suitable for "immersion" service at the thickness I used) and my final coat of Imron just went on tonight!!!!

Also did the front axle: I want to compare it to the POR-15 with POR "Hardnose" paint I used on the rear axle.

Here's primer and paint