Talk me into or out of an m8274 winch
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I just added a 1/4 by 1-1/2 steel strap to tie back together. I'll finish up the farelead this week. Need longer bolts due to the 3/8 spacer behind the bumper. This is just temporary due to a trip to uwharie planned this month. I'll strip it all down this winter and make more mods before powder coating. I wand to trim the fat and add better recovery points.
Looks good, if I had an arb bumper I would definitely copy you.
alia176
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This is a great picture that illustrates why folks are taking one of two paths for this winch mounting solution:
- set way further back and keep the ARB horz round tube intact and NOT cut into the grill.
- or, don't modify the horz round tube BUT cut into the grill because the winch will sit further back.
Thank you @taco162 for the great shots and feel free to correct me as needed.
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Wonder if that round stock could be removed and a new (reconfigured) one welded in its place, as on the Commercial Bar.
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I thought of that at first however on the commercial bumper pictured the entire winch section is moved forward if you look closely. If one were to cut out the entire bar it would comprise some of the strength do the winch face. I have next to nothing invested in the bumper so cutting it does not concern me at all. If all goes well I will be pulling it this winter and doing a complete make over. I just needed a quick and useful set up for next weeks trip.
heckler
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Well done
alia176
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Nicely done dude. You went this route due to syn cable or for some other reason?
mudgudgeon
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Interesting. Even with a double line pull, your still have similar line speed to an m12000, but a lot greater pulling strength
LINUS
Waiting for the Great Pumpkin
I could have said my portion better.
I was stating the fact that while very much slower than a 8274 (hell, the thing has some 75'/min of no-load retrieve speed!) - it's a racecar that maxes out at 8K on last wrap, where I've got an enviroment where really a M8K is not quite a 'last answer' winch with our clay & a 3.5 ton Cruiser stuck in whatever.
I'll use a sundial to count my retrieve speed - my POV is just that either loaded or no-load line speed, the grunt of a M12K is my 'security blanket' (fits my avatar).
I've got a 10K Zeon on the floor waiting on a Tundra bumper, a ProVantage 4500# I'm mounting on my river sled, and a mini M-series (~1500#?) -Warn made a decade ago on the front of my YFZ450 quad. Couldn't even guess the linespeed of any of them, I just know they can pull my junk out of trouble.
I'm a full unapologetic Warn fanboy, but linespeed means ZERO to me as I don't do any Pro-3 or 4, Ultra 4, KOH - any of those timed events. So really for me as long as I have battery(ies) enough to feed whatever winch I need to pull myself from any dumb move I made, it can take a really long time as long as it plain gets it done.
That's just my POV.
alia176
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You have some good points. The line speed is attractive to me from the point of view of the first guy who gets up on the obstacles and wants to help out the fellas behind me. Having a high speed winch promotes that mindset for me vs my M10,000 winch. Heck, just pulling out my line in free spool mode requires a fair amount of work for one guy. Also, as a winch for around the property and firewood gathering, the 8274 would definitely make things more fun! I'm a Warn fanboy too and love the sound of that ratcheting mechanism of the 8274. It's like those freaks that love the sound of a turbo windup, LOL!!!
^^^^^^^
I'm not promoting 'line speed' as something I desire...because I want to be the first guy to reel my line back in (see post #45). Line speed can also mean less time winching....thus less power consumption. That was the point of my first post.
LINUS
Waiting for the Great Pumpkin
I agree fully the last point you made in post #45 -- it's money in the bank for the guy buying it.
Again, I have none of the specs in front of me, and I run my M12K off a single Odyssey battery & a hand throttle. It sees annual use, prob anywhere from 3-8 times in any 12 months (sometimes as little as dragging a log / property manicure) & I have just over 4 yrs on this particular Odyssey - so works for me.
Seat of pants, it sounds like my winch motor likes my single compound pulls vs a straight pull on the last wrap - I have zero science to back it up, some other member made the comment that while my winch is under a load longer, it's not dipping my volts like a single pull at higher amps but a shorter duration.
IDK, and IDK jack about the science of all that, but yeah, bottom line I'm in favor of anything with a big red W on it. You can buy all the parts & rebuild ~ every time we elect a new president (or longer, for no particular reason).
If I was into any of the timed competition stuff I'd easily be willing to pay the cost to run a 8274 (or whatever secret-squirrel type winch Warn doles out to the big $$$ teams).
In the big picture we agree & it just gets down to personal useage styles I'd expect.
mudgudgeon
Resident galah
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Thanks, I enjoy making things when I get the time. Yes the plan is to run synthetic line. My friend has some delrin rollers from Viking off-road and the ones I made turned out identical. The 8274 is heavy 110lbs with steel cable. Between the synthetic line and the delrin rollers I'm right around 92 pounds give or take. That is comparable to and 9500 series with steel line so I'm ok with that. Trimming the fat is something that is not necessary but I have a habit of doingit. My other toy is a Porsche 911 so light weight is kinda expected.
Just got my parts back from powder coating and reassembled the winch.
