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I am finally looking at getting my 45 back on the road. Before buying new tail light lenses and gaskets I wanted to make sure the housing were worth using. I see where the PO switched the housings so that the one with the license plate lens is on the drivers side and facing up. Of course the lens is long gone and just a open hole. What have any of you done with this? Is anyone making replacement lens? I'm thinking of cutting a piece if a FJ40 tail light housing and soldering over the hole. Anybody done anything different?:cheers:

John
 
No body? How many are just using the later FJ40 tail lights? I was thinking of fixing the stock ones up and adding a couple of FJ40 68-72 reverse lights in between the stock tail lights. Thoughts?
 
in in the middle of putting my taillights in the bumper and not in the body
im using the rectangle shape led trucklight lights
reds for brake and tail
and ambers for signals
backup lights mounted under the truck
 
I assumed the 40 and 45 tail lights were the same part#

Never really looked too close. What year is your 45? Must be earlier than mine (78). I have separate license plate lights and my tail lights are the same left and right but inverted relative to each other.
 
Truck is a 65. It looks like they used this style thru 77. Just wonder what they did for reverse lights. The FJ40 series got them starting with the 68 model. Will probably keep the bumper unless I can find the later style license plate bracket. Awl_TEQ are you by chance making those? It looks like the lights are the same as the FJ40 which I already have. Also have a set of lenses that are the same as the ones on Bull's truck he sold. Clear and red. Thought about using those with a amber bulb in the clear side.:meh:
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I haven't made them yet. IIRC I sold mine along with the rear crossmember of my frame. I may have pictures that I could use as a reference. It was just a angle bracket with two little lights.
 
Found some pics

you can see the stock license plate lights at far right - the plate shown is not using the bolt holes provided by Toyota - I think one was snapped off at the time
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bare frame with harness
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harness removed
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side view
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While doing a search about the tail lights before starting the thread I found a thread with a picture. A guy in OZ had one and was sending it state side. He said he may be able to find more. Sent him a PM but haven't heard back. The thread was from 07. But he guy was still around and posting on Mud. Looked like there was a few ribs in it. If I keep the bumper I want to use a spring loaded hinge on the license plate bracket. I had one on a 73 Monte Carlo. I have a FJ55 spare tire carrier I plan to use. This would allow access for the crank handle. Just a FYI the last year of the FJ55 this handle was longer than the other years. I was lucky and bought one before they were discontinued.


Found the thread. Good picture towards the bottom.

https://forum.ih8mud.com/fj45-owners-club/145233-picture-request-license-plate-light.html
 
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If you're interested: from what I learned, the rear license plate on the longbed was lit two or three ways by the factory:
From the beginnings in the early 1960s, the right rear combination-taillamp had a cutout in the housing under the running/parking lamp bulb, covered by a gasket and clear plastic molded cover that allowed the same bulb to shine downwards on a license plate. This started with the two-bulbed housings on the 45s and the Stouts: (red/red),(red/amber), or (red/white).
In 1968 or so, when they first came out with the narrow three-bulbed tail lamps (red/amber/white) the idea was continued. During all this time the left side housings had no cutouts. The housing cutouts stopped with the introduction of the commonly-seen standard wider three-bulbed units in September 1973.

From Sept 1973 till the end of production in 1986 they used the bent metal plate(81484-90300) mounted to the frame up under the bed to hold two of their standard license lamps as on the FJ40s.

Brackets for the license plates themselves, mounted to the frames, started at least as early as March 1969 (75121-35010) and continued until Sept 1973. A slightly different version of this bracket (75121-60010) ran until the end of production in 1986. A listing (without a sketch) for a license plate bracket (75121-60030) is indicated for October 1982-October 1984 for LHD pickups that came with a "step-bumper," which is likely the rarely-seen diamond-plate topped chromed step-bumperettes (52150/60-90800), mounted on alternate sides of the rear frame crossmember.

While I have the bumperettes, I do not have the special license plate bracket that goes between them, or know how it was lighted. It may very well have been similar to the right-side mounted arrangement, as the bumperettes are quite far apart, and the standard light bracket and license plate mount will clear the frame hole for the wind-down spare tire.

The problem with all the license plate brackets, however, is that they put the license plates far down towards the ground, and have gotten beaten-up over their lives from steep departures or rock-crawling-- even with the angled "stay" support pieces which get hammered, all due to the extended bed overhang.

BTW, I have a 45 truck where someone retrofitted a hinged swinging bracket in place of its rigidly-mounted frame bracket, but it swings too easily while driving, and I don't want to attract a cop's attention. While not totally original, your USA style bumper can better protect a license plate, and often installed are two side mounted lamps in the recess.

As you know, Toyota kinda dropped the ball when it came to protecting the rear of these trucks, including the license plates.
 
Protection for the long overhang is the reason I will probably keep the old school bumper. Which means I need to either plug the license plate light hole and add some reverse lights. Or open up the light openings and use the later style lights. Has anybody widened the indented opening or are you flush mounting the lights?
 
A listing (without a sketch) for a license plate bracket (75121-60030) is indicated for October 1982-October 1984 for LHD pickups that came with a "step-bumper," which is likely the rarely-seen diamond-plate topped chromed step-bumperettes (52150/60-90800), mounted on alternate sides of the rear frame crossmember.

While I have the bumperettes

As you know, Toyota kinda dropped the ball when it came to protecting the rear of these trucks, including the license plates.


Thanks for all the information. Could you post a picture of your diamond-plate topped chromed step-bumperettes. Do you know if the part number is still good. Two questions about these.

1. are they the same right and left? FJ40 bumperettes do have a right and left.

2. How do these work? The frame crossmember is under the bed and do not see how a step on top would have any clearnace from the bottom of the bed:hhmm:

Thanks
John
 
Do you know if the part number is still good. Two questions about these.

1. are they the same right and left? FJ40 bumperettes do have a right and left.


Thanks
John



long gone John, they are left and right.

I would love to see pictures of them also. the tops of the FJ45 bumperettes seem to follow the bottom lines of the 40 series ones, then topped of with diamond plating?

there was also a wider mid step, similar to the early FJ25/FJ40 ones, that came on the FJ45's

Cabe Toyota is presently ordering me the 70 series rear license plate holder, I could take some pictures of it when it gets here?
 
long gone John, they are left and right.

I would love to see pictures of them also. the tops of the FJ45 bumperettes seem to follow the bottom lines of the 40 series ones, then topped of with diamond plating?

there was also a wider mid step, similar to the early FJ25/FJ40 ones, that came on the FJ45's

Cabe Toyota is presently ordering me the 70 series rear license plate holder, I could take some pictures of it when it gets here?

Do they follow the the FJ40 bottom line or the reverse? The FJ40's drop down in the back. It was make more sense if they got shorter in the back. This would make some room to put a foot on. I have one of those over size rear steps your are talking about. Unless I can come up with some cool looking stock setup I will probably keep the monster bumper that is on there now. It does offer some protection for the back and corners of the bed. I do like the option of dropping the tailgate straight down in the stock setup.

A picture of the 70 series license plate would be nice. Is this a stock 70 series plate holder or something from a UTE/pickup style? Not sure of the model numbers BJ75? I believe some of the later ones were 79 series?

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I'll post up the part number for the 70 series plate holder along with the picture, not sure of the model they came on but I could find out.

I've also got scans from my parts book of the wider step (comes with a funky trim piece) and the bumperettes. the bumperesttes seem to follow the bottom line of the FJ40 buperettes.

dropping my kids of at school, but I'll post the scans when I get back, probably 20 mins..
 
I will take a photo or two of the pickup-truck bumperettes this evening and try to learn how to post them.
BTW, the large step in the diagram above is for the Troopy, not the pickup trucks. I have seen several on both hardtop and softtop Troopies--they are really wide and beefy for heavy in/out traffic/use.

The pickup bumperettes are "handed," hence the different part numbers. They bolt to factory holes in the rear face of the later frame crossmember, and angle downward about 4 inches to squeeze under the rear valence of the pickup bed. The top plate is about 14x7 inches, and is bolted to 4 tabs on the inside of the bumperette. It appears that the frame holes would position each bumperette under the two inboard hinges, and thus cannot use the license lamp holder as it sits in the same RH location. The 4 frame bolt holes are 15-7/8 oc.

From memory Specter had a photo in their older catalog showing the bumperettes installed, but I thought they were farther apart and more outboard. Anyway, an interesting old item from the past.
 
2nd photo upload attempt

If this doesn't show the photos I took, can someone pls tell me where or how to learn to do this. Thx.
Each photo says JPEG image, 3456x2592, 3.8MB which is too large for this forum.
Is there a way to reduce the file to fit correctly for this forum? Thx for the edit.
 
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