So much for the scenic route

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Well we had some free time yesterday after work, no school for me, so we decided to take a drive. I have the book "Guide to AZ Backroads & 4 Wheel Drive Trails, so I was reading up on Bulldog. According to the author, if you go in on Bush Highway, then go right on 3554, that 3554 out to Usery Rd. is just a scenic route; the book is 5 years old.

For the most part it was pretty easy driving, but about 2 miles after you turn on 3554, we came to a nice drop, or downhill or something, not sure what to officially call it. It was shortly after we left the wash road and where back on a trail road. You come to a wide area and to the left are two ways down, neither looked forgiving. One side had more rocks, the other had more ruts. I chose the ruts side, looking back I wonder if there was a bypass, should have looked more.

Started creeping down, got about half way and the front left got hung up and the front left tire was hanging in the air, quick check of the vehicle, three other tires still firmy on the ground, decided to proceed. Put it in low, locked the diff and drug the truck another foot down till I had four tires back on the ground. One more thud from the back and we were clear of the hill. :doh:

About a mile further the trail split three ways, took what turned out to be the correct way first, didn't like it, turned around and checked the other two, both dead ends. It was almost dark by now, so we were getting a bit nervous, hoping for no more bad hills. A few minutes later, we reached the gate and headed home.

Upon close inspection, there were some decent scrapes, and one slightly dented gas tank, this one got me worried, but it seems to be fine so far, pictures next.

So next time, no four wheeling with the family that close to dark, we entered the first gate around 6 and exited around 8, and no four wheeling alone. A spotter would have been helpful on that hill, or maybe even someone to talk me out of it.

David
 
Pictures...ouch

Hope these are legible. The gas tank, first two pics, is on the left side, starting at about the rear wheel and extending forward a few feet. The dent looks like maybe 1/2" to and 1", not sure though.

I wish I'd taken a picture of the hill, anyone else gone through there?

David
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While I'm posting pics, here a couple of the new truck.
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Isn't it a great feeling to get through an obstacle that you have apprehensions about? Is that a skid plate or the actual tank there with the scrapes?. Looks like a skidplate to me. either way you got through your first wheeling adventure. Now the mods begin! WOO HOO!
 
Looks like a fairly painless intro to 'wheelin'. Definitely best to have company and start early (been there, slept there).

-Spike
 
Yes I believe it's a skid plate. You can see the tank through the holes and it looks and feels like some kind of poly material, doesn't sound like metal, is that typical? I was just worried about the metal plate pushing into the tank too much.

It was cool to get over the obsticle, just have to be more careful with the DD. Truck ran great though, besides the hill, I never felt like I might get stuck anywhere.

David
 
Glad you had fun, and the scrapes: that'll buff right out ;)

cybler said:
So next time, no four wheeling with the family that close to dark, we entered the first gate around 6 and exited around 8, and no four wheeling alone. A spotter would have been helpful on that hill, or maybe even someone to talk me out of it.

our rule: nothing crazy after 3:30 (we sometimes bend it a bit :D)
and - I have a ChaseTruck ;p

welcome to wheeling.
 
We went twice last winter. I take it you entered the trail down by the Salt River, and came out on Usery Pass? That would jive with the time; 2 hours through the Canyon over to Mesa would seem awfully fast.

I recall two hills and two offcamber sections, but that is all on the way over to Mesa, not on the Bush/Usery side. I don't recall anything tricky on this side, though.

Here's a few things you might want to consider:
Claudia and I have a general rule that has served us well over the years: "Nothing crazy after 3 p.m. " (..on a Sunday since we need to get to work on Monday - that's the original version). Another one for me is: "Never be too proud to turn around." I'd say this one particularly applies if you're out there by yourself, and it balances the "Never 'wheel alone" rule. I know the thrill of getting over an obstacle, but there should always be the consideration to make a mental note, turn around, and come back to fight another day. Preferably with someone who has knowledge of the obstacle, knows the right line to take, and can spot/guide you over it. Not trying to be patronizing, but just as I stated, this has served us well in our desert excursions.
 
Thanks for the advice Michael. I took the advice of a 5 year old book; I have a feeling that when the author was doing the trail, someone in his group said "that way is a scenic route back to Usery" and that was what he put in the book, since that's all that is mentioned and the rest has to do with the drive to Idaho Rd. I have a feeling that recent rains may have washed out part of that hill. I kind of had some adrenaline pumping tunnel vision focused on getting down the hill, and didn't even think about a possible bypass, or turning around.

I came out mostly unscathed and will wheel in groups next time. I did actually pass another truck, a white Jeep Cherokee, going the other way, towards the hill.

My girls did have fun and we got everyone home in time for bed, but not before fueling up and washing the well deserving truck. The kids actually fell asleep for about the last 20 minutes of the trail...grin...the little one (3 yrs) even slept through the car wash. This morning she told the babysitter that we drove in the desert on a bumpy dirt road...grin.

Thanks

David
 
Looks like you had fun and got the first scrape out of the way!:cheers: That is a skid plate over the plastic gas tank, they can take a pretty good beating, but is an area to have your spotter keep an eye on in the future.
 
Kids are easy to bribe into 'wheeling. Two of the nephews (6 and 4) got to 'drive' my truck last spring ('drive' means sit on my lap and attempt to steer - no pedalwork, and we were creeping along in 4-lo in the middle of a wash); the 2-year old slept the entire way. All three of them helped scraping the old weatherstripping off the dors of the '40. I'd say they're hooked...

I'd work on the adrenaline/tunnel vision thing. I rarely drive an obstacle or a difficult section of a trail without walking it first. That gives me a chance to see where the best line is, where my tires should be, and what to avoid. It also lets you see the entire obstacle, there are instances where there's an easy line to start, but it may put you in a difficult spot later on, so the easiest line in the beginning may not be the best one...

Two more 'rules':
1. "You go first..."; it is quite useful to see another vehicle in an obstacle, it let's you check the line and see how it works. This is great if you're out there with the "Hey y'all, hold my beer, watch this"-guy; strokes his ego and gives you a chance to learn something (typically, you learn what not to do...).

2. "If I drive down the hill, can I get back up?" This may sound sissy, but you never know whether there isn't a big washout further down the trail from the last rain, and you can't get across 'cuz half the trail is now swept away.

Enough rules, enjoy the truck!
 
I have a 4 year old nephew who I have to take out too. I was the nephew of three uncles who wheeled a ton, probably why I have it in my blood today.

Yes, through pain and skid plate scrapes comes wisdom, oh that and embarassing yourself in front of the wife...grin.

Also, don't use 5 year old guide books, especially in the constantly changing desert. I really thought it would be a walk-in-the-park, or I would have waited for a weekend.

Thanks again for all your help guys, I look forward to meeting you guys in the future for some wheeling, or a Sonic cheeseburger, whichever comes first.

David
 
ChaseTruck said:
Kids are easy to bribe into 'wheeling. Two of the nephews (6 and 4) got to 'drive' my truck last spring ('drive' means sit on my lap and attempt to steer - no pedalwork, and we were creeping along in 4-lo in the middle of a wash); the 2-year old slept the entire way. All three of them helped scraping the old weatherstripping off the dors of the '40. I'd say they're hooked...

Ditto this. I let my 9 year old drive. I found a relatively open space, put in 4-lo and 1st, and kept my hand on the e-brake while in the passengers seat. She had a blast! My 5year old had to sit on my lap. She's the reckless one. They enjoyed it immensely.
 
ChaseTruck said:
I'd say they're hooked...

a day later they played in my truck in the garage, the 6 yr old in the truck, the 4 yr old behind the truck, gesturing as if he were the spotter. He couldn't even see over the tailgate :grinpimp:
 
DSRTRDR said:
a day later they played in my truck in the garage, the 6 yr old in the truck, the 4 yr old behind the truck, gesturing as if he were the spotter. He couldn't even see over the tailgate :grinpimp:


Time to hide the keys:D
 
No need for that, they are all back in Germany ;) but they love looking at wheeling pics
 

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