Shift front axle forward?

[Ebag333]

So I'm in the process of fitting 37's, and getting a bit of rub in the front. Nothing really bad, and rubbing is racing, right?

After browsing through a bunch of old threads on fitting 37 (or larger) tires, not really finding what I'm looking for.

Here's where I'm at currently.

This is about the worst case scenario, wheel turned a bit to the side and compressed.

Little hard to see in the pics, but I have tons of room to the front.

So the question begs, is it worth moving the axle forward a bit?

 

[wongtsenhin]

In what way are you doing the extension work?
Tons of works will be involved.

 

[Ebag333]

Here's where I'm at on the rear. These stuff nicely with just a bit of rubbing in the front. Not much room in the back.

 

[Ebag333]

In what way are you doing the extension work?
Tons of works will be involved.

Grinding off existing mounts or (better yet) just fabbing up new mounting brackets that attach to the existing ones shouldn't be that big a deal. Would be nice to leave the existing ones in case I need to go back for some reason.

Would definitely be doing it on the frame side, axle side is way too much work. Although overseas flipping the arms to be above the axle is pretty common, I don't have enough lift to clear that (yet).

 

[kidglove13]

I moved my axle forward about 3/4 inch
It could probably go a little more to line everything up again like the springs and such
which are still angled back a bit because of the lift

It took some fab work but not to bad
If you go outside of the stock frame backet then it would take more fab work
I will move my axle forward more once I do my 3link this winter

 

[Ebag333]

I moved my axle forward about 3/4 inch
It could probably go a little more to line everything up again like the springs and such
which are still angled back a bit because of the lift

It took some fab work but not to bad
If you go outside of the stock frame backet then it would take more fab work
I will move my axle forward more once I do my 3link this winter

How much lift are you running?

I want to increase my lift by about 2", so I'm hoping to set it up for that (which will be a bit too far forward with what I have now).

 

[kidglove13]

Between 5 and 6 inches
The lift settled a little after I added the winch

I got the idea from a thread on here from an aussie guy who did the same thing
But his work was much nicer than my redneck fab skills

 

[Tapage]

I was thinking in that idea few months ago but with more bolt on option with the base idea of the MAF drop bracket that move control arms frame points 1" or 1.5" froward to compensate those getting short due lift .. making that drop bracket as low ( or up ? ) as possible trying not affect that much ground clearance ..

 

[yOHda]

thanks for the picture kidglove ive been thinking the same thing....

i've hacked on my truck so much to fit these 37s on low lift. my next step is sliding the axle forward a hair to improve the approach angle.

on the rear im reverting back to my lowrider/mini truckin' days and doin a mini tub in the rear to retain factory uptravel. umhw belly skid is being worked out as well.

 

[KevinNY]

Here ya go.

 

[bhmmapping]

I'm going to do the same thing roger did, except maybe move the hole forward a little more. With the ironman plates I can see that the axle has shifted back a little bit. I had to pound the rockers back at the rear of the front wheel well to fit the 37's.

 

[cruiserruf]

problem solved

 

[Ebag333]

I was thinking in that idea few months ago but with more bolt on option with the base idea of the MAF drop bracket that move control arms frame points 1" or 1.5" froward to compensate those getting short due lift .. making that drop bracket as low ( or up ? ) as possible trying not affect that much ground clearance ..

The MAF drop bracket is no go for wheeling. Fixes the problem of axle position, but hangs down way too low. Don't need the radius arms any lower than they already are.

I've hacked on my truck so much to fit these 37s on low lift. my next step is sliding the axle forward a hair to improve the approach angle.

on the rear im reverting back to my lowrider/mini truckin' days and doin a mini tub in the rear to retain factory uptravel. umhw belly skid is being worked out as well.

I haven't done any hacking yet. Trying to avoid as much as possible.

I considered a UHMW belly skid...could have added it easily. Not worth it IMHO, unless you lose about 2k in weight the rock is more likely to dig in than slide.

Just weighed my truck, 6300 lbs pretty empty. Yeah, not ideal for UHMW.

Plus I slide pretty good on bare steel.

You're better off doing a drivetrain lift than a UHMW skid.

I had to pound the rockers back at the rear of the front wheel well to fit the 37's.

Already done that with a 1 lb micro adjuster.

problem solved

Not doing that.

But I must comment....I think that is the first tube bumper I haven't hated. It almost looks decent.

 

[wongtsenhin]

How much inch do you want your axle to go forward?
Have you take into consideration of the steering linkage? of course the front drive shaft, spring cap to the axle?

 

[Ebag333]

How much inch do you want your axle to go forward?

I'll probably shoot for moving it about an inch forward on the frame mount. Doesn't look like you can go much further than that without more serious fab work.

Have you take into consideration of the steering linkage? of course the front drive shaft, spring cap to the axle?

Something to watch, but don't think any of those will be an issue...

 

[KimoSabe]

..I think that is the first tube bumper I haven't hated. It almost looks decent.

Cruiserruf is running BumpitOffRoad 80 series bumper without the hoop. It's a tough bumper. Maybe he'll sell it to me one day.

I still like the flares on my rig, I trimmed back that area in the front about 1/2 inch along with a bit of the flare, can't tell its been trimmed since the flares are still on. Plus a 1/2 inch body lift, solve the front tire rubbing problem.

 

[Ebag333]

I still like the flares on my rig, I trimmed back that area in the front about 1/2 inch along with a bit of the flare, can't tell its been trimmed since the flares are still on. Plus a 1/2 inch body lift, solve the front tire rubbing problem.

Already got a 1" body lift, so flares are out of harms way. No need to trim, even. Planning on going up a little taller on the BL which will help even more.

 

[kidglove13]

My 37's are going on in 2 days so I will see how well moving the axle forward worked for them

But in general because of the lift and the arc of the suspension the axle is moved back quite a bit especially with 4 inchs of lift or more

I can definitly still see that my axle could still go forward a little more because of the angle of the springs and the angles of the panhard and the drag link its pretty obvious, well at least to me it is

 

[wongtsenhin]

Something to watch, but don't think any of those will be an issue...

Good to hear that! continue with your good work

 

[93yotasr5]

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