Bogo
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My waste oil stash was there because I had no other place for it. I lived in an apartment. I just thought it was hilarious that waste oil would get stolen routinely.
Securing jerry cans from theft?
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crushers
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locks are for honest people, i NEVER lock my vehicles but at the same time i never leave anything of value in them.
i have theft insurance
if you lock them then you will have to pay $300 for a new window and all the punk wanted was the change in the ashtray.
we live in a society that fears its own shadow, media, movies all feed that fear. i lived in the "hood" in Calgary for 30 years, i had a compressor stollen (turned out to be a "friend") and i had a 20" TV, vcr and 2 cases of beer stollen from the house (turned out to be a pair of my kids "friends") ... that is it.
get over it peeps, we do not live in a movie. if your area is really that bad then move or use common sense.
i went through my fear stage as well and grew out of it after chatting with a cop for a few hours when the beer was liberated.
i have theft insurance
if you lock them then you will have to pay $300 for a new window and all the punk wanted was the change in the ashtray.
we live in a society that fears its own shadow, media, movies all feed that fear. i lived in the "hood" in Calgary for 30 years, i had a compressor stollen (turned out to be a "friend") and i had a 20" TV, vcr and 2 cases of beer stollen from the house (turned out to be a pair of my kids "friends") ... that is it.
get over it peeps, we do not live in a movie. if your area is really that bad then move or use common sense.
i went through my fear stage as well and grew out of it after chatting with a cop for a few hours when the beer was liberated.
rusty_tlc
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I live in a reasonably good neighborhood and felt I didn't need to lock stuff up. Then one morning I went out to my truck and the cans were gone. I don't think I am living in fear of my own shadow, I am reacting to the reality I live in.
I also subscribed to Alert ID which tells me what is going on in my neighborhood. A house gun is on my list of near term acquisitions based on what I am seeing. That's just being proactive, I'd rather not wait for some neighbors crackhead teenager to try's to break into my house before I get a gun.
I don't live in a "hood", I live in a middle class mostly white collar WASP neighbor hood.
rusty_tlc
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So what happens when they pull the spindle nut and take your whole swing out?I went for the easy solutions for securing my gas cans and Hi-Lift jack.
I just thought of that, my set up is vulnerable to the same thing. I tack welded the nuts that hold my winch on, never thought about it on the swingouts.
crushers
post ho
now that is the problem, where do you stop?
of course, chances are if they are stealing your fuel they are too inexperienced to figure out how to get the swing out off.
seriously, if you are that worried then leave the stuff in the garage with 2 Rotti and an electrified fence.
they can't steal what isn't there.
of course, chances are if they are stealing your fuel they are too inexperienced to figure out how to get the swing out off.
seriously, if you are that worried then leave the stuff in the garage with 2 Rotti and an electrified fence.
they can't steal what isn't there.
This is what im using.
If they want ur stuff they are going to take it! There's only so much you can do...
If they want ur stuff they are going to take it! There's only so much you can do...
So what happens when they pull the spindle nut and take your whole swing out?
I just thought of that, my set up is vulnerable to the same thing. I tack welded the nuts that hold my winch on, never thought about it on the swingouts.
If they bring a few guys and are that commited to taking the whole carrier I'm prepared to let my zero deductable State Farm insurance deal with it......
Like Mark, I live in a place where we leave stuff unlocked; in my 'hood we presume one another to be politely armed.
However, 1 mile away, where I occasionally work, things get stolen out of unlocked rigs. Sometimes I work in a metro area, where thieves shoot each other over stolen catalytic convertors. And I choose what level of risk I'm willing to accept in each environment, as should each of you.
If someone boosts my cans + fuel that's way better than my dogs being shot. Been there, ain't no fun.
However, 1 mile away, where I occasionally work, things get stolen out of unlocked rigs. Sometimes I work in a metro area, where thieves shoot each other over stolen catalytic convertors. And I choose what level of risk I'm willing to accept in each environment, as should each of you.
If someone boosts my cans + fuel that's way better than my dogs being shot. Been there, ain't no fun.
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Another option -
When I had the bumper built I designed the ladder to capture the fuel can. A steel cable w/padlock secures the can and if I need further security the safety pin (next to the cantilever locking clamp) can be removed and a padlock installed to secure the swing arm. The tools are also secured with a padlock. But, as said before.....this stuff will only slowdown the determined thief.
Good luck.
When I had the bumper built I designed the ladder to capture the fuel can. A steel cable w/padlock secures the can and if I need further security the safety pin (next to the cantilever locking clamp) can be removed and a padlock installed to secure the swing arm. The tools are also secured with a padlock. But, as said before.....this stuff will only slowdown the determined thief.
Good luck.
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I had one of two cans emptied right off of the rear bumper box.
Your design (Im under the impression you fabbed this up) is one of the simplest and lightest I have seen...
I would def put a cable or chain instead of that strap you got there....
I do like that piece of rod metal on the spout...it sure would make a thief think twice.
Your design (Im under the impression you fabbed this up) is one of the simplest and lightest I have seen...
I would def put a cable or chain instead of that strap you got there....
I do like that piece of rod metal on the spout...it sure would make a thief think twice.
Not mounted to my truck currently...
But thinking of making a swing out mount, so that the carrier could be mounted to my truck as well...
Bogo
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Take a close look at that "strap". Looks like a heavy duty wear protection sleeve around a chain to me.
Mark W
Yep, I really don't really care that much I guess.
On drawback to the security loop over the cap.... We usually just siphon fuel from the cans, leaving them on the rack unless we are in a hurry ( I carry 8 cans on my jerry can rack). With the 15 gallon cans we always siphon unless we have 2 or three guys doing refuel chores for a group.... sometimes even then (I carry 4 15 gallon fuel cans on my other bumper rack).
The pictured setup is a step up for security if that is a large concern. It is a (small) step back for flexibilty of use on the trail.
Mark...
The pictured setup is a step up for security if that is a large concern. It is a (small) step back for flexibilty of use on the trail.
Mark...
My fuel is not safe from theft...
I guess my theory is... if they want it that bad...
then they gotta work fo' it some
it would mostly only help keep the honest folk... honest
guilty as fabb'd
it does have chain under those abrasion sleeve's
^ You got it... 3/8" link looks
I guess in today's world... it might be considered too much work,
to turn a key, unlatch a lock, tilt a fuel can outward, just clear of the cap stay, remove the cap and insert the siphon... twice
I'll bet I could dump both these cans manually...
in less time, then it would take me to find my siphon and hook that up.
Yer method seems kinda gadget geeky to me. LoL
But hey... to each their own
Mark W
Yep, I really don't really care that much I guess.
Gadgety geeky? Hmmm... first time I have been accused of that.
I guess we look for the easy way since we are refueling rigs from cans... and refilling the cans from drums too... a lot more on a single outing than most guys do in years.
No question that dumping the cans is quicker. A full size nozzle will empty one of these cans in about 30 seconds.
If I was stuck in a place and society where I had to worry about my fuel getting stolen off the back of my rig, I guess I would be more inclined to worry about locking everything down.
mark...
I guess we look for the easy way since we are refueling rigs from cans... and refilling the cans from drums too... a lot more on a single outing than most guys do in years.
No question that dumping the cans is quicker. A full size nozzle will empty one of these cans in about 30 seconds.
If I was stuck in a place and society where I had to worry about my fuel getting stolen off the back of my rig, I guess I would be more inclined to worry about locking everything down.
mark...
I just found it odd that you would critique
someone else's fuel can mounting method...
in a comparison to your industrial needs
I'll retract... yer not a geek if yer pumping 50 gal. drums
Maybe you should build a 4X tanker,
instead of messing wit drums and fuel cans.
someone else's fuel can mounting method...
in a comparison to your industrial needs
I'll retract... yer not a geek if yer pumping 50 gal. drums
Maybe you should build a 4X tanker,
instead of messing wit drums and fuel cans.
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Mark W
Yep, I really don't really care that much I guess.
Was not criticizing anything. Just pointing out a couple of different considerations.
We have considered picking up a deuce and a half for hauling fuel and other gear on some trips. Eventually we probably will.
Mark...
We have considered picking up a deuce and a half for hauling fuel and other gear on some trips. Eventually we probably will.
Mark...
If I was stuck in a place and society where I had to worry about my fuel getting stolen off the back of my rig, I guess I would be more inclined to worry about locking everything down.
mark...
Not stuck, but obviously crazy enough to live south of the 49th parallel in western north America......
That's why I did without jerry cans all together and got a bigger tank...
Now all I have to worry about is someone stealing the whole damn rig....with a full tank of gas!!!
rusty_tlc
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Almost everyone I know uses a super siphon to transfer fuel from cans to tank. It's far less messy. The Super Siphon has a check valve built in, just jiggle it a few times to start the siphon going.......
Yer method seems kinda gadget geeky to me. LoL
But hey... to each their own
Gadget geeky? A basic siphon is nothing more than a section of hose, pretty low tech if you ask me. It can be used to transfer fuel from cans to tank, tank to cans, or tank to tank. Gotta love a multi-tasker.
For my money I'd rather have a siphon in my truck than a spout, in fact I don't even carry a spout for my cans.
As far as locating the siphon if you use it regularly you put it in a spot that is easy to access, the same as you would a spout if that is what you use.
