Same same but different - 33’s vs 35’s (1 Viewer)

[thedapperbenz]

Had to google it. Straya=Australia? This is like saying 'murica? If so, you should actually spell out your location to help people understand and answer your question. I am a bit of a geography buff and here I was thinking you lived on some tiny island I never heard of

Anyway, I'm pretty sure there are plenty of people running 35's or 315's on 80's in Australia. I always thought the rules were basically bolt-on parts are fine, but no DIY welding on the frame or axles, or something like that. Why the Australian 60-series guys never go SOA.


More to the point, 35's because they look good. As others have said, if you're thinking about it, you'll probably end up doing it at some point anyway. There really isn't much of an advantage off road--I have run many trails that people think require 35's with 265 tires, but they do smooth out the ride a lot off road. If you're looking more for what's practical over what's cool, then 255/85/16 is probably the best.

Haha that must be the first time I’ve heard someone not know what “straya” meant.. it’s the bogan way of saying Australia (I wish it was an exotic island somewhere).

In terms of legalities, it’s pretty strict here. Tyres can only be 2” above stock at maximum. Maximum lift is 50mm as well. Bars/lights can’t be taller than the bonnet/hood line, etc. heaps of dumb rules. I’m thinking if I switch the placard out to say it had 33’s stock (probably believable for an untrained cop) then the 35’s will do fine.

seeing how you're in Australia, any chance you could try some half life 35s see how you like them?
What condition are the tires in now?

Considering it is your 4th car and you're considering 35s that seems like the size to recommend but I'd be happy with some 255 85 16s. Something else to think about is going up a rim size as 17 inches has become quiete common (at least here in N.A.-that's North America, so there's the chance of running into more tire choices but also finding a spare easily, or a secondary set off some pull offs if you needed).

Current rubber is about 70% front 60% rear.. I could probably swap for a set if I could find someone that wanted stock rubber.. I think they’d be few and far between though.

I’ll be buying a set of sunraysia rims to go with the new rubber, so could go up to a 17 if that’s the way to go.

I've seen it as Straya a few times. If you think of how a "typical" Aussie might pronounce it, you hear Straya in your head. Or O.Z.

Spot on haha

 

[BILT4ME]

Install 33's on the front and 35's on the back. Then determine if you like it from the front or the back better and you will know which ones you should complete the set!

You COULD install them the other way (35's front and 33's rear) to offset the stinkbug.

 

[SHREDwagon]

I’ll be buying a set of sunraysia rims to go with the new rubber, so could go up to a 17 if that’s the way to go.

285/75r17 (34") is a good compromise without being too wide if it makes any dif with Johnny Law. You'll probably want to delete flares to tuck 35's on a true 2.5" lift - worked well for me. 265's, 285's, 255's and now 315 - can't see going any smaller than 315's on an 80. No problems stopping if the brakes are sorted.
Instead of re-gearing, why not swap FZE for FT?

 

[Kbug]

Bigger tires are great unless you can't turn them or stop them. What kind of offloading are you going to be doing? If you're just gonna be doing easy trails and want the 35s just for the looks, then go for it. But if you're doing any hard wheeling, you're gonna have a hard time turning them in some situations. The 80 is pretty capable even in stock form, I would suggest just waiting till you can do a GR if you're set on getting 35s.

 

[junior80]

I’m thinking if I switch the placard out to say it had 33’s stock (probably believable for an untrained cop) then the 35’s will do fine.

talk to me.

 

[Jungle80farmer]

I know this has been asked 10,000 times (or more).. search results to this question is actually what lead me to this forum.

I’ve just picked up a 95 GXL (1FZFE).. my first cruiser

First mods will be suspension & rubber. I’m looking at a 2” lift, or possibly 2.5” lift, then either 33’s or 35’s.

I won’t be able to afford to re-gear the diffs, so I’m stuck with the stock gearing. I live at sea-level, but some trips might see me to places up to 4000ft.. that would pretty much be the maximum.

I drive the car mon-fri, but only 4km in the morning and 4km in the arvo. It’s our 4th car, so doesn’t need to be overly friendly, and given the 5 mile daily trip, fuel isn’t too much of an issue (although might be annoying when driving 3-5 hours away for some off-roading and camping).

So what do I want the 35’s for..
1/ they look good
2/ I don’t have front or rear lockers (nor can I afford them just yet).. thinking the 35’s might help me get out of more possiblcoiltuations off-road until I can afford lockers

So what would you choose and why?

I chose the keep it simple, because I'm stupid plan with my 80. I chose the other white meat ...295 75 16. I don't want to lift it until I can afford 3 inch dobinsons flexi coils & all that entails going to 37s properly. For now I'm going stock height dobinsons & 295s BFG ats. Tire still fits under the truck ,no Castor BS to deal with. Just simple. My 80 isn't my trail rig. For rubicon type stuff I pull out the 40, put the front window down & cruise

 

[cybrstar]

35’s are the new 33’s and...
37’s are the new 35’s

So 33=stock.

 

[mudgudgeon]

I am a bit of a geography buff and here I was thinking you lived on some tiny island I never heard of

Yer, not far off the mark! Straya is an island, and it often feels like no-one's heard of this little backwater at times.

Straya is the phonetic spelling of Aussie Bogan pronunciation of Australia, but usually said in a nasally drawl.



Ps, Googling "Bogan" will probably raise more questions than answers

 

[mudgudgeon]

Someone inevitably will think they're being cheeky and recommend 40s

Surprising that no-one suggested 35s still blow your head gasket

 

[LINUS]

Surprising that no-one suggested 35s still blow your head gasket

Southern Hemisphere.

To blow the HG you'd have to drive everywhere in reverse

( how's that for my 1st try at the super-duper tech reason, @nukegoat )????

I'm sure you can expand on some key points I glossed past........

 

[Qball]

Waist size at high school graduation + the number of head gaskets you've replaced.

That means I need to downsize to 30???

 

[retrofive]

That means I need to downsize to 30???

You'll never make to the mall.

 

[TexasJack]

33s will not ever necessitate regearing. 35s change the equation. I regeared when I went to 35s. If you plan to add lockers, change the gearing when you change the lockers. It isn't a lot more money to change the gears. The locking diff is the main cost. So.....if you are planning to add lockers before the tires wear out, go with 35s and change the gears to 4.88 when you swap the diffs.

 

[cbpeck]

I went with 305/70r16. I'm pretty happy with them.

 

[Gabriel 71]

33 and you don't need the powa button

 

[jaymar]

I know this has been asked 10,000 times (or more).. search results to this question is actually what lead me to this forum.

I’ve just picked up a 95 GXL (1FZFE).. my first cruiser

First mods will be suspension & rubber. I’m looking at a 2” lift, or possibly 2.5” lift, then either 33’s or 35’s.

I won’t be able to afford to re-gear the diffs, so I’m stuck with the stock gearing. I live at sea-level, but some trips might see me to places up to 4000ft.. that would pretty much be the maximum.

I drive the car mon-fri, but only 4km in the morning and 4km in the arvo. It’s our 4th car, so doesn’t need to be overly friendly, and given the 5 mile daily trip, fuel isn’t too much of an issue (although might be annoying when driving 3-5 hours away for some off-roading and camping).

So what do I want the 35’s for..
1/ they look good
2/ I don’t have front or rear lockers (nor can I afford them just yet).. thinking the 35’s might help me get out of more possible situations off-road until I can afford lockers

So what would you choose and why?

The bigger the tires, the more stress they put on all related components. Not sure what you're doing offroad, but overlanding rigs rarely go over 33s...

 

[Qball]

The bigger the tires, the more stress they put on all related components. Not sure what you're doing offroad, but overlanding rigs rarely go over 33s...

It depends on one’s definition of overlanding and where. If someone hits the desert a lot then 35 or even 37 comes handy if soft sand is near by. Fortunately the 80 is one of the rare vehicle that can handle 35s stock form. Try that on a Jeep!

 

[jaymar]

It depends on one’s definition of overlanding and where. If someone hits the desert a lot then 35 or even 37 comes handy if soft sand is near by. Fortunately the 80 is one of the rare vehicle that can handle 35s stock form. Try that on a Jeep!

Yup sand and snow MMV...

 

[Tools R Us]

The bigger the tires, the more stress they put on all related components. Not sure what you're doing offroad, but overlanding rigs rarely go over 33s...

In your experience is the stress significant, or just more Mud-FUD?

 

[Marine7]

Are you wanting to wheel this thing, or look cool for your friends in the mall parking lot? I’ve always felt guys running “stupid big” Tires we’re compensating for their lack of size elsewhere! With the Land Cruiser being such a dog.... stick with 33’s. People used to justify 35’s to stay out of the ruts guys left with their 35’s-37’s, but now them guys are on 40+, so a 33 is going to get swallowed in the ruts just as quick as a 35. Plus, like others have said..... unnecessary strain running bigger Tires, not to mention gas mileage going “toes up”. But, if you want to look cute... get them 35’s and don’t forget the Armor All before you head to the mall!