alkaline747trio said:Of course there are front swaybar drop brackets! Were you raised under a rock?!? Try sleeoffroad.com and man-a-fre.com
A simple YES would have answered the question. No not raised under a rock just on a different rock.
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alkaline747trio said:Of course there are front swaybar drop brackets! Were you raised under a rock?!? Try sleeoffroad.com and man-a-fre.com
FJBen said:Random thoughts again:
#1 for a stock 4" lift, WITH swaybars, and standard control arm setup, these shocks are definitely the right length.
#2 for a stock 4" lift, WITHOUT swaybars and standard control arm setup, again these are just at there max.
#3 Bacon
#4 stock 4" lift, WITHOUT swaybars and the hitchpin mod, they are NOT long enough by a few inches 3" at least.
(more thoughts/observations to come on the shocks)
I noticed a MUCH more level flex at this point...she wasn't leaning ALL the way over like before. You'll notice the shocks are definitely too short and this point and are hard to straighten out to fit back in the hole. That pin mount system seems to be causing some binding as well, although prolly not as much as the radius arm itself.
Nay said:Great pics - front end is moving pretty well there.
What shocks are you running? Are those L's or the regular OME's?
May I recommend an eye to eye adapter conversion. Great way to space your travel now that you know what you are dealing with, and you can stop bending your shocks in the process.
If you are getting new shocks, there are lots of excellent options beyond OME once you have an eye to eye mount.
Nay
FJBen said:thats exactly where I was going before I went to lunch and didn't finish my post...I think the same size shock with just the eye/eye end would work A LOT better.
They are the "L" shocks. They are definitely too short and causing some stress with the unpinned setup. I was thinking maybe bilstein would be sweet! I think now the front is matching the rear. With a disconnect for the front mount (3-link for cheap) If that poor mans 3 link works the 80 could have very balanced flex with different schocks, and great on road driving.
I just wonder about the stress put on that opposite mount. If it could be beefed up then kinda a cheap way to get lots of flex.
i dunno...need to ponder more...
Aussie cruiser said:A simple YES would have answered the question. No not raised under a rock just on a different rock.
Dusty said:cool post Ben. Like a thesis for a Ih8mud masters. swaybar disconects would be handy. I have them on the front of my heep grand cheroke and like em. rear disconects shouldn't be all that hard.
Nay said:I just took my front swaybar off completely after this post...I had been assuming that with rear coils it would make a huge difference. Well...it didn't.
I don't have any extra lean unless I am cornering a lot harder than I should be...and even then it is very minimal and the suspension is controlling the motion in a very predictable way. By this I mean you don't have the "snapping" motion a swaybar will give you when you have a lot of unsprung weight and hit a bump going around a corner and similar situations. Front end behaves better on parking lot entrances at an angle and that sort of thing.
I won't remove the rear...both for stiffness carrying load and to balance the front offroad. This is not a recommendation, BTW. I am designing my suspension to account for this type of change.
Nay
FJBen said:The shocks are what I think are causing some bind and forcing the suspension to work harder. I think eye to eye conversions are the way to go. Plus you can get basically ANY shock to fit that. I think Bilsteins would be very sweet. I would like to know what you think about them so far Nay.
At 21 3/4" ride height, I have 6 1/2" of up travel, 4 1/2" of downtravel. definitely not optimum, and Nay way SPOT ON!!!The same shock spaced down by the eye to eye adapters would effectively lessen my compressed up travel and increase my down travel....Which would be extremely useful if I follow through in the poor mans 3-link. The pics are show I need around 3" more of downtravel or just go to a 12" travel shock.
I think you could also do this with the rear...but the bumpstops would have to come into play more. I can stuff the rear fully, and fully extend it using all the 11" of travel in those shocks. I'm VERY close to a balanced front and rear flex setup which would be VERY nice!![]()