So true. I actually hit Costco up once every 2-3wks since I have the extra 12.5ga tank but my Costco is only 2miles from my house and it never has a line in the morning. If it did, I’ll just go 3 more blocks to another gas station. Time is valuable and I’m not waiting at a damn EV station for 45mins or longer. I want to get where I’m going.He probably has LX and has to use PREMIUM…while us LC owners can just go anyway to get cheap gas.
My wife is the same…she has Acura MDX and uses Premium gas…she waits in long lines at Costco to get cheap Premium gas…….while i just drive to my local gas station to get cheap gas.
What gas stations charge for PREMIUM gas is highway robbery IMHO!
Rivian R1S vs LC thoughts?
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EV discussions get distracted by trip charging which is the rare use case. The normal use case is always charge at home and starting every day with practically a full tank. Detouring to fill up is not a thing in daily use, which is why my wife won't drive a gasoline car anymore after 12 yrs of EVs.
Closer to how we use cell phones. Except most EV cars today, depending on commute, can go 2-5 days without charging.
The LX is our vacation and trip car. The surprise was how easily a Tesla can do trips too with their pervasive charging infrastructure in CA.
But you can play Pong while waiting….
Lol! My wife would be playing pong with my head if I made her sit around that long. We value our vacation time and trying to beat traffic when headed to Seaside. One of the main reasons I have an LRA tank. Ev is great around town, but not if you value time.
to @TeCKis300 point, you don't buy an EV as a road trip vehicle. And nobody will for probably another 5 years (some exceptions among the Tesla crowd). You buy an EV for daily use and you leave the house with a "full tank" every morning. I've charged at a public charging station 4 times in the last 4 years, and half of those were more for the heck of it than out of necessity. If I'm hitting the road for an interstate road trip, I take the 80, the 200 or the wife's car.
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Never let them leave without a full charge. If they drive more that on errands what the heck are they doing?
That "normal use case" may work for someone living in a house in California and taking trips within the state.. but that is far from majority of worlds population. Thus, the conversations of trip charging will continue to come up.. particularly on a Land Cruiser forum, a vehicle known for exploring the most remote parts of Siberia, Alaska, Africa, etc.
I just see it like this...and this has applied to almost every new tech product out there. Getting in on the early Gen stuff is almost never a good idea. Tech gets better and at the same time cheaper and more refined. There are always the early adopters though to help move things along and more power to them. It just won't be me.
Early LED TV's were thousands, now there are ones that sell for a few hundred dollars that are way better than those were...and so on...and so on.
Early Teslas and Rivian's will be looked at like old school projection TV's when LED's came out in a decade.
Early LED TV's were thousands, now there are ones that sell for a few hundred dollars that are way better than those were...and so on...and so on.
Early Teslas and Rivian's will be looked at like old school projection TV's when LED's came out in a decade.
Always interesting to hear everyone's opinion. On a Land Cruiser forum, we are typically 'luddites' who question any new vehicle technology not made of steel, rubber, oil, and glass. Living primarily in the PNW, everyone I know is in medical research, engineering, or tech. And they gravitate toward the new, which almost always includes silicon, code, and electrons. These 2 groups very rarely intersect on the Venn diagram of interests or opinions.
Being from Alaska, that group gravitates toward hunting, fishing, boats, and airplanes. Oh yeah, and guns. Lot's of guns They don't intersect with much of anyone in the lower 48.
I am never bored and am constantly fascinated with everyone's viewpoints.
Being from Alaska, that group gravitates toward hunting, fishing, boats, and airplanes. Oh yeah, and guns. Lot's of guns They don't intersect with much of anyone in the lower 48.
I am never bored and am constantly fascinated with everyone's viewpoints.
I like new technology and not really afraid of change, but there also is logical calculation that goes on in my head that tries to calculate if the juice is worth the squeeze. I like that people are adopting to the new tech and pushing advancement in the technology. I just think it isn't in my best interest to do so and would rather wait it out.
I like guns and planes too. Fishing not so much...too slow for me (catching yes). Would like to get into hunting but haven't had the opportunity yet.
I like guns and planes too. Fishing not so much...too slow for me (catching yes). Would like to get into hunting but haven't had the opportunity yet.
Pretty much mirrors a large majority of your outdoor enthusiasts here in Texas as well. Maybe not so much the airplanes on a whole because they aren’t used for backcountry access like they are up there on the daily, but as a pilot myself I also run in those circles from time to time.
That’s right! She belongs in the kitchen i tell ya! If not then she better be making money!
250 miles of daily errands just seems like a lot unless you live in rural ND, WY, or MT.
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This. Our family has EVs (Tesla) for daily errands/commutes. The 200 is for trips/camping/playing in the dirt. Waking up to a full fuel tank every morning is lovely. (regardless of range since it's easily 200 miles even with degradation, charging to 90%, weather, etc.)
It made sense with fuel savings, registration savings (In AZ), and the original tax benefits. Not sure it does at the moment, though.
You’ve never arrived at a gas station to find the tanks empty, credit card machine out of service, the grade you needed not available, or the whole damn station burned down (Baja, 2008, it sucked). I mean teething issues should be expected. It’s only 100 years since Gasoline had to be purchased by the gallon from pharmacies.
Texas is one of the worst states in the US for outdoor recreation- unless you own your own land. Very little public use land. Pretty much any other state east or west of TX is a better place to be to use your airplane, motorcycle or overlander. My wife is from Austin so we spend time between CA and there…that’s not to say it isn’t a beautiful and awesome state in many other ways!
I am not denying that, it's something like 97% private land but that makes it even more of a committed group of outdoorsman because you have to lease or own in order to hunt consistently. I ride motorcycles and fly planes (much less so in recent years), the latter isn't as impacted by this but there's a reason why most of my adventure motorcycling and enduro riding is out west. California will do what it does best, regulate itself into all "fun" activities becoming illegal and then it'll no longer matter either, they've done a bang up job of it in recent years but that's a subject for a different sub-forum.
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So it seems after reading maybe 15 pages in this thread you folks who buy EVs do it for the convince of charging at home and use it to run errands in the city?
BTW, that dash controls stuff looks horrible to me. Then again, I don't even like my smart phone.
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BTW, that dash controls stuff looks horrible to me. Then again, I don't even like my smart phone.
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The hyperbole goes both ways in these EV discussions on mud. EG If it doesn’t tow 20k lbs 500 miles across the Sahara and cannot be field repaired with a coat hanger or has any of them pesky computers it’s basically useless for any use case.
They all end up this way
