Agree that it’s polarizing - I’m into it but most people either love it or don’t. I will say, it catches my eye every time I see one around here. Totally unique for better or worse
Rivian R1S vs LC thoughts? (11 Viewers)
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Agree that it’s polarizing - I’m into it but most people either love it or don’t. I will say, it catches my eye every time I see one around here. Totally unique for better or worse
The R1S is badass in my opinion.Agree that it’s polarizing - I’m into it but most people either love it or don’t. I will say, it catches my eye every time I see one around here. Totally unique for better or worse
Sweet tailgate.
I think it will have its place as the market settles.
Cool concept being brought into production But, with that kind of money I will hold out for the LC EV.
I have either my wife, kid or buddy sitting in the front on any given day and the vent is one of the first thing that gets adjusted throughout the drive, lack of knob is a horrible horrible design flaw in my book. Another design flaw of the Rivian suv is how the rear seats can’t be controlled by a single rear button. I know it‘s a new company but haven’t they driven and tested other suvs before? It’s all about the details, especially when someone is spending 6 figures on an Ev that‘s basically a computer.
I will agree that the move towards touchscreen control of everything in the vehicle is not a good move IMO. And this is happening across makes and with ICE vehicles as well. However, at almost 4 years in a Model 3, which has basically no buttons in the whole damn car, it has turned out to be way less of an issue in actual practice than I worried it would be before I bought the car. I still think it's stupid and I would no doubt prefer to have knobs and buttons for most functions, but I got used to it pretty quickly and consider it pretty much a non-issue. As the driver, you figure out where your normal needed stuff is pretty quickly and any regular passenger (i.e. your wife, buddy or kid) knows how to adjust whatever they need to adjust. New passengers need a tutorial. It would be a lousy car to borrow or rent due to the learning curve though.
My wife was driven around in a Model Y and she liked it so much, I was supposed to order her one several months ago. I just know her and she’d be annoyed with the lack of CarPlay and comfy leather seats. I’m just so old school and it’s one of the reasons my sport cars have been Porsches. I love buttons. Also, only prefer wearing mechanical watches. Next trip, I’ll rent a Model Y through Turo and have her drive it to see if she really wants it.
Don't worry about the lack of CarPlay in Teslas. That's a crutch for other cars. The Tesla UI has everything one would want to do natively in more refined fashion on a larger screen.
It's kinda like the transition from Blackberry to modern cell phones. It took some getting use to, including waiting UIs to be refined, but I think we're all comfortable using completely touch based smartphones today.
Yeah, I’ve heard that about Teslas which is very unique to them.
Wow this thread has really taken off! I looked back and saw my first post in this thread was from November 2019 (the one quoted above), one month before I joined Rivian and a few months prior to placing my preorder for an R1S. There are a lot of opinions in the thread, but I want to share some perspective after spending many thousands of miles driving Rivians from early preproduction vehicles through the most recent ones rolling off the line. I haven't shared much in the last 1.5 years here (or anywhere for that matter) due to concerns about sharing information or details before it was public. It's a long story which I will elaborate more on in my ongoing Palladium build thread, but I have one of the coolest jobs in the world where I get to travel around demonstrating Rivians on and off road.
If you've seen my posts in the past, you've probably noticed I absolutely love the 200. I've had a bunch of different vehicles in the past, but nothing has spoken to me more than the 200 for myriad reasons. To me, the Land Cruiser feels more like a partner or a friend than a vehicle - one that I can rely on not just to take me places but to protect me and my family and to always be ready for a new adventure on a moment's notice. I genuinely LOVE the 200 which is why I have 2 right now and have had 5 in a row. For me, there is no better vehicle...well until I drove the Rivian.
I'm not trying to convince anyone to buy a Rivian, but I'll share a little about my experience of not only being able to drive dozens of R1Ts and R1Ss but being able to do so with my 200 alongside the Rivians. First off, they're similar in their off road capabilities, but the R1S has better approach, departure, and breakover angles with more ground clearance in the standard height and up to 15" of ground clearance available with a tap of the screen. If you've ever driven a full air suspension vehicle in the highest setting, it's not very comfortable for long, but it works great for getting over the biggest obstacle and going back down to a more reasonable and comfortable "high" setting. Because it has independent front and rear suspension with hydraulic cross linking and no traditional sway bars, it's WAY more comfortable off road - more similar to the LX570 than the Land Cruiser in this regard but still more comfortable with less head toss. The real difference appears on road however. 835 horsepower and 908 foot pounds of torque simply never gets old. Every time I wrap a trip I honestly miss driving the Rivian, but then I get in my 200 and I fall in love all over again. They are now both my favorite vehicles, and I can't wait to take delivery of our R1S in the next few days. If you don't love EVs, that's totally cool, but I'm buying the R1S because it's objectively a phenomenal vehicle regardless of what fuels it - and I'd probably buy it if I had to shovel coal into the frunk to make it run.
June 2021 with validation prototypes
July 2021 with validation prototypes
Yeah I have had multiple Audis and am a stickler for maintenance. Even with that, I never had one go more than 75k miles without an expensive repair, including a transmission replacement at 70k.
Is the quad motor worth the $8k upgrade?Wow this thread has really taken off! I looked back and saw my first post in this thread was from November 2019 (the one quoted above), one month before I joined Rivian and a few months prior to placing my preorder for an R1S. There are a lot of opinions in the thread, but I want to share some perspective after spending many thousands of miles driving Rivians from early preproduction vehicles through the most recent ones rolling off the line. I haven't shared much in the last 1.5 years here (or anywhere for that matter) due to concerns about sharing information or details before it was public. It's a long story which I will elaborate more on in my ongoing Palladium build thread, but I have one of the coolest jobs in the world where I get to travel around demonstrating Rivians on and off road.
If you've seen my posts in the past, you've probably noticed I absolutely love the 200. I've had a bunch of different vehicles in the past, but nothing has spoken to me more than the 200 for myriad reasons. To me, the Land Cruiser feels more like a partner or a friend than a vehicle - one that I can rely on not just to take me places but to protect me and my family and to always be ready for a new adventure on a moment's notice. I genuinely LOVE the 200 which is why I have 2 right now and have had 5 in a row. For me, there is no better vehicle...well until I drove the Rivian.
I'm not trying to convince anyone to buy a Rivian, but I'll share a little about my experience of not only being able to drive dozens of R1Ts and R1Ss but being able to do so with my 200 alongside the Rivians. First off, they're similar in their off road capabilities, but the R1S has better approach, departure, and breakover angles with more ground clearance in the standard height and up to 15" of ground clearance available with a tap of the screen. If you've ever driven a full air suspension vehicle in the highest setting, it's not very comfortable for long, but it works great for getting over the biggest obstacle and going back down to a more reasonable and comfortable "high" setting. Because it has independent front and rear suspension with hydraulic cross linking and no traditional sway bars, it's WAY more comfortable off road - more similar to the LX570 than the Land Cruiser in this regard but still more comfortable with less head toss. The real difference appears on road however. 835 horsepower and 908 foot pounds of torque simply never gets old. Every time I wrap a trip I honestly miss driving the Rivian, but then I get in my 200 and I fall in love all over again. They are now both my favorite vehicles, and I can't wait to take delivery of our R1S in the next few days. If you don't love EVs, that's totally cool, but I'm buying the R1S because it's objectively a phenomenal vehicle regardless of what fuels it - and I'd probably buy it if I had to shovel coal into the frunk to make it run.
June 2021 with validation prototypes
July 2021 with validation prototypes
Not sure yet as I haven't driven the dual motor version yet. The testing of the dual motor variant looks promising, and I'm looking forward to trying it out soon!
What a joke
I can just picture a wife with kids trying to “fill up” before going home when running errands.
If I put my wife in a situation like that I’d be dead.
That's actually something I did really like about the Hyundia EV's... the controls are mostly physical
Interesting watch. So the older ones work, it's just these new ones they came out with that don't work under 0°, but they do work in other countries at lower temps. Classic America.
Luckily gas pumps are perfect and never have any issues. See, only took me an hour to fill up this morning:
Interesting watch. So the older ones work, it's just these new ones they came out with that don't work under 0°, but they do work in other countries at lower temps. Classic America.
Luckily gas pumps are perfect and never have any issues. See, only took me an hour to fill up this morning:
I’ve never in my 30yrs as a driver waited longer thEn 15mins to fill up. It‘s probably because I don’t wait in long lines to save .10-.20 a gallon
EA network is a joke right now.
But fwiw most people who daily drive charge at home. And with most BEVs having north of 250 miles usable range, the situation you describe above really isn’t a concern.
He probably has LX and has to use PREMIUM…while us LC owners can just go anywhere to get cheap gas.
My wife is the same…she has Acura MDX and uses Premium gas…she waits in long lines at Costco to get cheap Premium gas…….while i just drive to my local gas station to get cheap gas.
What gas stations charge for PREMIUM gas is highway robbery IMHO!
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Yeah, my wife is the perfect candidate for an EV. She might drive 20mi. max per day or not at all, plus our short 150-200mi. weekend trips to Nashville, Chattanooga, etc. keeping our 200 for bigger family trips, nasty weather and hitting the dirt trails.
Yeah I'm considering a ev mini for just putzin' around in for my wife. They are like 30k max (not new) but only get like 130 miles. She's got a 03 sport which is a lot of fun but its on the way out.
