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KlausVanWinkle said:
What am I missing? How is this one different from the BIOR $1000 rear bumper?
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Wow. When did those come onto the market? Talk about a clear copy of my original design... :rolleyes:

But my swing it quite a bit different. Either way I'm not here to try and be the cheapest. I only want to fill a demand I was asked to fill by you guys. I'm sorry. But no way will I build mine that cheaply. I have it all tallied up. My base bumpers will go for $1200. The swing will add another $1200 to that. They will come raw steel and shipping will be extra. I have a video that I will upload soon that shows many of the features my bumpers offer. It does, I believe, have some nice features that may be more beneficial to some than other options. Like ease of removing the swing. Or a centered tire mount and very secure latch. But it obviously isn't going to be for everyone.
 
Will that be $2,400 for the bumper with one swing out plus coating and shipping?

That would be pushing $3,000 when completed. If I understand it correctly.
 
I think ActionFab (Chris) was being half serious with that comment.

I'm picking up my bumper from him tomorrow, and mind does have the swingout.

I've seen it in person already, and I have to be honest, couldn't be more impressed with the quality and workmanship. I have seen most every other bumper out there in person, and in my opinion, his build quality is second to none.

I'm planning on putting up a thread with pics, video, etc, when I get mine installed tomorrow so everyone can see it up close and draw their own conclusions.
 
Sounds nice. The workmanship in the pics does look impressive.

Do everyone a favor and pick up a corner with hi-lift so we can all see the clearance/rigidity.

Looking forward to the swing out pics!
 
jemsec said:
Will that be $2,400 for the bumper with one swing out plus coating and shipping?

That would be pushing $3,000 when completed. If I understand it correctly.
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No.

Here is something I think many are missing. I don't run a large production based fab shop. My bread and butter is building really radical one off buggies and one off components. As such, each of these bumpers are built by hand, completely (this will give you guys a lot of options when ordering). There are no CNC tools used, I have constructed a relatively primitive jig and there is actually quite a lot just in material cost in each. For me to make money on these, I have to charge this kind of price. It is a sticker shock, I know. I really wanted to hit a more budget friendly mark. But to meet my own quality expectations, I invest nearly 80 hours in constructing one of these. That labor does not come at a factory workers price in my shop. Even at this price I'm making about half my shops labor rate of $55hr. I just can't do it for less.
 
I will not make derogatory comments about other bumpers on the market. What i will say is that ActionFab's product is well worth the money. My experience with several of the other bumper manufacturer's was not the best. ActionFab's quality and workmanship was top of the list. I picked mine up and installed it after he fabbed it. He produced a quality, heavy duty, well planned bumper in a short amount of time (less than a week) and in the exact time frame he committed to. All of the fasteners were included and were correct in length and overkill on strength.

Many of you have not seen ActionFab's quality but I will tell you he spends a lot of time detailing the welds. The BIOR bumper I had experience with had some pin hole pits along the weld seems. When the powder coater ran it those pits showed. After awhile those pits were rust dimples. I do not have this complaint with ActionFab's product. Of course I am admittedly picky.

He puts a lot of time and effort into his work and it SHOWS!
 
deltapine1 said:
I will not make derogatory comments about other bumpers on the market....
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:lol::lol::lol: You should practice not leaving derogatory comments. :lol::lol::lol:




I'm genuinely interested in the actionfab bumpers but I have a few questions is all. What is the price? How is the deflection clearance when loaded?

I'm sure ntsaints pics and comments will clear up most of it.
 
Couple teaser pics before powder coat

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I think professional competition is extremely important in running a successful business. The other bumpers available seem to meet the needs and expectations of many readers. They are not inferior and seem to be very well built and reasonably priced. I don't think many are concerned about manufacturing costs and what goes into making a product. It's not their responsibility to make sure a manufacturer is profitable and are not concerned about costs of material and labor. They just want a good, attractive product that meets their needs for a reasonable price.

If people like your bumpers well enough to pay your price, they will buy them. Most of us would love to have a nice rear bumper but the cost is hard to manage.
 
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Maybe I'm a bit slow but what is the cost??
 
fireball said:
Maybe I'm a bit slow but what is the cost??
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$1200 for the base bumper without swing. An additional $1200 for the tire carrier.

I will also note. These are not available for order yet. I have a few changes to my design I'd like to make before giving it the green light. Hopefully by the first of January I will be ready.
 
Do you have any concerns about the durability of the swingout when carrying a 35" tire over washboard terrain? I would like to see some type of gusseting at the base of the carrier where it meets the bottom tube.
 
No I don't have any concerns. I am using 2" .120 tube. It is supported quite well and if you'll notice the top tube is bent and then fishmouthed to give extra surface area for the weld and lateral load. The pivot is comprised of two chromoly 3/4 x 3/4 heims, each with a load rating of over 34,000 lbs. They are double sheer mouned into the bumper at the vertical frame tie in plate using a 3/4" bolt. The bumper is also welded inside and out to prevent cracking or tearing over the life of the bumper. Also I'll note that my latch is not a typical cam-lock. It actually works to add additional vertical stability. The arm when locked can not rotate at all in the latch. I am completely confident in my design. Our changes have to do with lift gate clearance.
 
I like the design of the swing, good application of round tubing. I was wondering about the heim design for the pivot but at 3/4" inch I think it is plenty stout, it also provides a nice adjustability feature to keep things tight, especially if one should have an 'event' while off-road. I can definitely see there is a ton of labor in both the pivot and the latch fab. The latch is a nice design as you mention it has a vertical support component (as opposed to simply holding the thing closed).

Have you run this general design in the past and is it rattle resistant?

Is there a hold open feature for the swing out?

Lookin' good!
 
AimCOtaco said:
I like the design of the swing, good application of round tubing. I was wondering about the heim design for the pivot but at 3/4" inch I think it is plenty stout, it also provides a nice adjustability feature to keep things tight, especially if one should have an 'event' while off-road. I can definitely see there is a ton of labor in both the pivot and the latch fab. The latch is a nice design as you mention it has a vertical support component (as opposed to simply holding the thing closed).

Have you run this general design in the past and is it rattle resistant?

Is there a hold open feature for the swing out?

Lookin' good!
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The heim pivot I have used. This latch design is new to me. But I have played with it some. There isn't any way for it to rattle. There is both a nylon strike pad and rubber stopper that assure that.

Yes there is both a spring loaded lock-out to hold the gate open and to lock the latch closed so it cannot unlatch accidentally. It is designed to catch the arm as it's open to prevent to arm from swinging to far and either denting the truck or vehicles/constructions need by.
 
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