Rear Brake Job

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Would this be appropriate for sliding pins and rubbers?

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Anyone could help me with the rear pad support plates please? Can not find them.
Also, what would be the correct part number for the rear caliper assembly?

My local parts guy is as clueless as I am, every time get sets me up, there is always a part or two to be added later.
 


Don’t forget to bed in the pads like I didn’t do. Does anyone know if there’s a DIY way to cure the pads before install?
 
Anyone could help me with the rear pad support plates please? Can not find them.
Also, what would be the correct part number for the rear caliper assembly?

My local parts guy is as clueless as I am, every time get sets me up, there is always a part or two to be added later.

Are you looking for factory parts?
 
Are you looking for factory parts?
Yes, please. Cannot find those 'plates' for some reason

I found 2004 calipers:
47730-60101 Rear Right, goes by CYLINDER ASSEMBLY, REAR DISK BRAKE, RIGHT
47750-60101 Rear Left

47715-60010 upper pin
47715-60020 lower pin

04479-60250 rear caliper repair kit (2004)
 
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On my 2005, I think this job (replacing rear break pads) is beyond my expertise and don't necessarily want to endanger the life of my family.

So if I want to source the parts myself and have my local mechanic do it, are these the parts I'll most likely need?
  • Rear brake pad kit - 04466-60070
  • Rear shim kit - 04946-60031
  • Upper caliper sliding pins - 47715-60010
  • Lower caliper sliding pins - 47715-60020
Assuming rotors are ok, anything else?
 
Slide pin boots (4), Fitting kit, Caliper Mounting bolts (2), Bleeder caps (2).
 
Slide pin boots (4), Fitting kit, Caliper Mounting bolts (2), Bleeder caps (2).
Thanks!

Are those all included in the
  • Caliper rebuild kit - 04479-60250
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Not trying to hijack this thread. I more have a question about longevity of the brakes/rotors.
If caliper are in good shape and torque plate (AKA cage) move freely don't touch. But if your replacing rotor that indicate their worn below limite. I find this take 100 to 160K miles. With those mileage I'll bet sliding pins & boots, bore and pad supports are in sad shape. The shim will not be used with your aftermarket pads so You'll not need those pricey anti squeal shims.

My rear driver side wheel has been making a metal rubbing sound and I just noticed a few days ago driving about 15 miles that when I got home that rotor was really hot (using laser temp gun on the four wheels). I also noticed that there is a lot of rust flakes on the wheel. Seems like something is rubbing and the metal flakes depositing onto my wheels are rusting.

Anyways, not trying to hijack the thread, but my rotors and pads were replaced by the dealer (PO) about 30,000 miles ago. The problem is that I don't know how long I have been riding it hot. Assuming I figure out WHAT is rubbing, am I going to need to replace the rear rotor(s) again? Seems like a waste with only 30k on them. And if I replace one rotor, I should probably do both rotors I'm assuming?

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Not trying to hijack this thread. I more have a question about longevity of the brakes/rotors.


My rear driver side wheel has been making a metal rubbing sound and I just noticed a few days ago driving about 15 miles that when I got home that rotor was really hot (using laser temp gun on the four wheels). I also noticed that there is a lot of rust flakes on the wheel. Seems like something is rubbing and the metal flakes depositing onto my wheels are rusting.

Anyways, not trying to hijack the thread, but my rotors and pads were replaced by the dealer (PO) about 30,000 miles ago. The problem is that I don't know how long I have been riding it hot. Assuming I figure out WHAT is rubbing, am I going to need to replace the rear rotor(s) again? Seems like a waste with only 30k on them. And if I replace one rotor, I should probably do both rotors I'm assuming?

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Could it be seized caliper? Are the pads equally worn ?
 
Not trying to hijack this thread. I more have a question about longevity of the brakes/rotors.


My rear driver side wheel has been making a metal rubbing sound and I just noticed a few days ago driving about 15 miles that when I got home that rotor was really hot (using laser temp gun on the four wheels). I also noticed that there is a lot of rust flakes on the wheel. Seems like something is rubbing and the metal flakes depositing onto my wheels are rusting.

Anyways, not trying to hijack the thread, but my rotors and pads were replaced by the dealer (PO) about 30,000 miles ago. The problem is that I don't know how long I have been riding it hot. Assuming I figure out WHAT is rubbing, am I going to need to replace the rear rotor(s) again? Seems like a waste with only 30k on them. And if I replace one rotor, I should probably do both rotors I'm assuming?

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No idea what rust color is. Picture of outer surface of rotor disk, not very revealing> But first impression outer surface it's okay, with possible scoring. But really need better picture to make any call here.

30K miles on rear pads, for some is much more than they get other may get 2x that. Driving style, HWY or city, rush hours spot & go all make a difference. As does those that use brakes to control down hill speed (very bad).
Also to consider: Where someone just tossed in pad. Very often boots of pins never replace and pins frozen in mounting plate.
  • Other factors reducing rear pad life.
  • Bad boots of slide pins
  • Pins frozen.
  • Cheap pads
  • Bad, improper install or missing fitting kit.
  • Bad brake job anyway we stack it.
  • Rotor out of spec (run-out or parallelism)
  • Run-out of hub to rotor. off due to not setting to best. And or not de-rusting.
  • Rust build, due to not driving to dry, after rotor disk gets wet. (Rotor out of spec)
  • ABS sticking or locking up a caliper. Seen this s happen once, where ABS locking RL brake caliper. It would lock on brake, and not release once brake pedal pushed just once, which pressurize the line.


Rotors may be fine and should be if not metal to metal. Even then may be. 16mm thickness of disk after turning, is minimum.
 
Well I pulled the wheel and caliper and found this…outside okay, inside pad GONE! I felt the back of the rotor and it’s gone. Thicker at the top and thinner near the center and scored like crazy.

Bottom caliper pin moves “okay” but top pin doesn’t move at all. Maybe I need to just replace the pins and boots? Or just the boots?

So my question is, if I’m replacing one rotor and pads I probably need to do both rotors and pads right?

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Well I pulled the wheel and caliper and found this…outside okay, inside pad GONE! I felt the back of the rotor and it’s gone. Thicker at the top and thinner near the center and scored like crazy.

So my question is, if I’m replacing one rotor and pads I probably need to do both rotors and pads right?

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Correct but you might want to find the root cause such as possible seize caliper
 
Correct but you might want to find the root cause such as possible seize caliper
I edited my post. The top caliper slide pin WON'T BUDGE! Even with at socket on it. I’m guessing that’s likely the issue?
 
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Has anyone had to replace the torque plate before? One of the slide pins is frozen in place. Torquing on it with a wrench I can't even get it to budge. New torque plate is $147! Given how important that piece is though I probably should just get OEM vs aftermarket if I have to replace it.

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So often I see cheap brake jobs. Where a shop just replace pads. With rears, we need to replace the boots and fitting kit with pads almost always. Don't and we get water into slide pin hole of mounting plate. Typically if pin frozen in mounting plate, a new mounting plate is needed. Wait until you price those... ouch! BTW mounting plate does come with new OEM calipers. Cheap jobs coast a lot $$$
 
So often I see cheap brake jobs. Where a shop just replace pads. With rears, we need to replace the boots and fitting kit with pads almost always. Don't and we get water into slide pin hole of mounting plate. Typically if pin frozen in mounting plate, a new mounting plate is needed. Wait until you price those... ouch! BTW mounting plate does come with new OEM calipers. Cheap jobs coast a lot $$$
The unfortunate thing here is that this was (yet another thing) done at the Lexus dealer 30k miles ago. They replaced the pads/rotors/clips etc. with all OEM parts but there's no way they greased the slide pins. If they had, this would not have happened.

Interesting that I can get a new caliper bracket for $147 or I can get the assembly which comes with a caliper and bracket for $183.

Paul, do you have any thoughts on an aftermarket bracket? There are no moving parts, it's just a piece of metal so I am inclined to think it might be okay? It says remanufactured which probably means they took it off an OEM assembly during the rebuild?

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