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pcut

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So I headed out yesterday with Mac the dog to hike up Pritchett Canyon to get a nice 9 mile hike and watch some crazies driving up the canyon-unreal!!!!!
I decided to go left and take a mellow cruise out Kane Creek and ran into some kids from Vail who had a"guide" book that said the trail out to Hwy 191 wasn't too bad. We decided to team up and go- first mistake.
After getting to within about 2 miles of the highway we ran into three others at the bottom of a super gnarly series of ledges. After 5 hours of winching each other up, we got out to the highway at 10 PM. This after the princess expected me back at 2:00 that afternoon, but that is a WHOLE 'NOTHER STORY!!!!!!!
Driving back on the highway there was a real loud clunk in the driver's side front end. It seems to go away while coasting and gets louder under power and increases in frequency with increases in revs. Still drives fine other than that.
Any thoughts- cv joint or?
I will take it in to a friend's mechanic tomorrow but would like some help from the MUD brain trust in the meantime.
Thanks all.
 
ya, sounds like a CV or bearing, but noises can be tricky to "echo locate" while driving

You made it back to town?
 
In park, on flat ground; make sure there's no "load" on steering wheel... Grab the axle at the dif - Move it up and down, side to side. Check both axles.
What kind of movement did you see/feel? Any leakage?
 
Yes I made it back to town- only to face her royal wrath, and talk to the Grand County Sheriff's office and the Grand County Search and Rescue. Quite an unexpecteded evening!
I will crawl under it this afternoon and check it out and report back.
Thanks
 
Wiggled and inspected- no movement or leakage. Any more ideas? Would I be able to drive it with the center diff gone?
Doesn't sound like there any pieces rattling around inside anywhere.
 
Partially stripped drive hub flange?
 
Dave, crazy story...can't wait to hear from you. Your issue? Shoot...I would suggest CVs...Might not see any drippage but do you see any in the wheel well or on the frame...
 
Broken front diff so I'm going to disconnect the front driveshaft and drive flanges and drive it home in 2wd. Now I need to figure out what locker and gears to put in. Thanks to all who replied with help and suggestions. This forum rocks!!
 
after 99 the 100 series came with the 4 pinion diff which is substantially stronger than the 98-99 2 pinion.

Us early 100 series guys can upgrade the carrier to the ARB diff which is much stronger and adds front locker capability.
 
Glad to hear you figured out what it is and are still mobile.

"only to face her royal wrath, and talk to the Grand County Sheriff's office and the Grand County Search and Rescue."

Perhaps buy a sat phone or SPOT to keep the :princess: happy. A sat call in a similar situation probably saved a buddy from a horrible fate...

:beer:
 
I know that spot you're talking about on Kane Creek - it's nasty! Pretty cool that you can say you made it up, even by winching. Any pics of the trail? I'm curious how setup your LC is... Can you share a pic with us?
I'll be curious what you end up doing to fix up your front diff. I need to upgrade to the 4-pin diff...
 
Anyone here have any experience with Harrop elockers? I think my choice is between those and ARB. ARB has a stellar rep I know.
AFA the "trail" and my rig, it was getting dark as we started up the nasty part so I have no pics. We did almost all the worst part in the dark.
My vehicle is an '06 100 series with an OME 2.5 lift, Slee front and rear bumpers, Warn 9.5 winch, Metaltech sliders and 275/75
UEA 2012, Hanksville 062.webp
/18 Nitto Terragrapplers with 40,000 miles on stock wheels. No armor. Other than the blown diff, a couple of minor body dents that will come out easily, one scratch in the door, a few scrapes on the sliders and bumpers and that is it. Simply amazing given the conditions. I can get some pics of the rig when I get home tomorrow in 2 wd.
Again thanks to the MUD brain trust.
And kudos to Brian ? From Fruita, Co in his beautiful Rubicon who captained the effort and got us out of there by 10:30 PM.
 
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Good looking rig... I still can't imagine taking a nice 100 series up that final obstacle, especially at night!
 
4 pinion diff blown.

The ascent up ledges you describe. Was that the stretch with a big cliff dropoff on the left? Been up there a couple times in my 80, never in my 100. It's incredibly daunting to look up at. Would be challenging without a locker. Would suck in the dark.
Strong work.
 
Hayes said:
4 pinion diff blown.

The ascent up ledges you describe. Was that the stretch with a big cliff dropoff on the left? Been up there a couple times in my 80, never in my 100. It's incredibly daunting to look up at. Would be challenging without a locker. Would suck in the dark.
Strong work.
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Yes- a verrrry long drop on the left. When we pulled around the corner to look up at it there was a JK high centered right on the edge of the cliff- 1-2 feet farther and it would have gone over a 300 foot drop. We helped them get the JK back on the road and then all 5 of us worked our way up. Very daunting to say the least, especially as it got darker and darker.
All's well that ends well, but I never, ever want to do something like that again. Not my cup of tea.
My take away is (1) never believe anyone else's opinion of the difficulty of the route unless they have been on it recently and (2)don't let peer pressure prevent you from turning around the first time you have any trepidation at all.
A new locker and front diff is, in my opinion, a cheap price to pay for the lessons I learned.
Now it's time to go shopping!!!!!
 
pcut said:
Yes- a verrrry long drop on the left. When we pulled around the corner to look up at it there was a JK high centered right on the edge of the cliff- 1-2 feet farther and it would have gone over a 300 foot drop. We helped them get the JK back on the road and then all 5 of us worked our way up. Very daunting to say the least, especially as it got darker and darker.
All's well that ends well, but I never, ever want to do something like that again. Not my cup of tea.
My take away is (1) never believe anyone else's opinion of the difficulty of the route unless they have been on it recently and (2)don't let peer pressure prevent you from turning around the first time you have any trepidation at all.
A new locker and front diff is, in my opinion, a cheap price to pay for the lessons I learned.
Now it's time to go shopping!!!!!
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I actually really dislike the lower portions of that trail. Too many narrow soft shelf roads, and those narrow slider-bashing spots that are not really very entertaining. I'd hate running back down those.
The final long ledgy climb can be fun if you have time to really figure it out. There are one or two good obstacles right above that stretch too. How much did you drive vs. winch?
Any idea where your front diff gave out?
 
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