Purchased 2000 Land Cruiser from Odometer Fraud seller. NEED HELP.

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Since posted on February this truck changed owners twice, and it's on it's 5th owner now.
The Carfax and Autocheck discrepancy is extremely obvious showing that the 3rd owner lowered the mileage by a whooping 220k miles during his ownership. There were other discrepancies during this vehicle's history, but all seemed like fat fingers typing wrong numbers, something that I see every day, and can't understand how someone can be so careless.

Apparently the OP sold it or something happened and he offloaded the car to a different person. Sorry for the guy, but it's part of buying used items, you can never be sure.
 
Patron100LC said:
Since posted on February this truck changed owners twice, and it's on it's 5th owner now.
The Carfax and Autocheck discrepancy is extremely obvious showing that the 3rd owner lowered the mileage by a whooping 220k miles during his ownership. There were other discrepancies during this vehicle's history, but all seemed like fat fingers typing wrong numbers, something that I see every day, and can't understand how someone can be so careless.

Apparently the OP sold it or something happened and he offloaded the car to a different person. Sorry for the guy, but it's part of buying used items, you can never be sure.
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My main reason for wanting to contact him is to try to get his California DMV investigator contact info. I filled out the online DMV fraud form and was told it would be 5-6 weeks before they even look at it. I know I'm not getting any $$ back but would love to see these F'rs get busted.
 
Rush 2112 said:
My main reason for wanting to contact him is to try to get his California DMV investigator contact info. I filled out the online DMV fraud form and was told it would be 5-6 weeks before they even look at it. I know I'm not getting any $$ back but would love to see these F'rs get busted.
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I also sent a private message to reduc because he had the same thing happen. If California DMV could merge our three investigations it would seem they would have a better chance of catching them. Also, mine has the scratches on top of steering column just like reduc. Looks like they are definitely swapping ODO clusters. Interesting that they are targeting 100 series cruisers.
 
I guess it's BC they still make money as used vehicles, and a LOT more if the miles are low. Hunting for unsuspecting buyers that are attracted to the low mileage.

I've been dealing with used cars all my life, and I never looked at the car's mileage as a decision factor for a personal car that I'll buy for myself.
As a resale? Sure.. But for my own use, the higher the better, I can get a lower price for it, anyway I'll check it no matter what the odo says.

Sorry to hear you were stinged too. Probably they'll catch this team, the question is how many ppl are going to be trapped until then.
 
Patron100LC said:
I guess it's BC they still make money as used vehicles, and a LOT more if the miles are low. Hunting for unsuspecting buyers that are attracted to the low mileage.

I've been dealing with used cars all my life, and I never looked at the car's mileage as a decision factor for a personal car that I'll buy for myself.
As a resale? Sure.. But for my own use, the higher the better, I can get a lower price for it, anyway I'll check it no matter what the odo says.

Sorry to hear you were stinged too. Probably they'll catch this team, the question is how many ppl are going to be trapped until then.
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The invoice they gave me for Timing Belt repair is exactly like the one jsphaguirre posted (and i mean exactly) except for vin, mileage, and dealer.
 
Rush 2112 said:
I also sent a private message to reduc because he had the same thing happen. If California DMV could merge our three investigations it would seem they would have a better chance of catching them. Also, mine has the scratches on top of steering column just like reduc. Looks like they are definitely swapping ODO clusters. Interesting that they are targeting 100 series cruisers.
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Probably just pulling the cluster and reprogramming it.

Sorry this happened to you. Were you able to figure out the true history / mileage yet? It could very well still be a decent rig.
 
Unfortunately, it seems that the state of CA doesn't care about these people, which is one of the reasons you see them a lot in CA.

Bummer, but, as suggested above, it very well might still be a great vehicle. Don't let the mileage scare you off. Lots of maintenance items that would need to be done because of age anyways; low mileage isn't such a huge bonus as it might seem.
 
rexington14 said:
Probably just pulling the cluster and reprogramming it.

Sorry this happened to you. Were you able to figure out the true history / mileage yet? It could very well still be a decent rig.
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Advertised on CL as a 2002 with 64k miles. Seller had copy of Carfax and invoices from recent repairs. He gave me the title and showed me his Ca. drivers license that matched the front of the title. Vin on title matches all vins on car. A few days later I was looking through the owners manual and noticed it was for a 1999. Strange. Ran my own Carfax and came back a 1999 with 340K. They had altered the year and odometer date on the front of the tile. This was not going to be a daily driver for me. Financially, it hurts, but not the end of the world. This is personal. I want to do all I can to catch these MOFO's before they do it to someone else.
 
glorm said:
Interesting, that Rosecrans address leads here: San Diego Marine Air and Electric - https://sdmarineair.com/contact-us

Maybe call that business and see if they have an employee named Bailey.

Whoa, a google search brings up a bunch of companies at the same address. Very odd. Is it a UPS or Mailbox address?

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Conditt Pool & Spa is located at 3555 Rosecrans St Suite 114 in San Diego, California 92110. Conditt Pool & Spa can be contacted via phone at 512-947-3781 for pricing, hours and directions.
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DR. BROOKE BARTLETT PH.D.​

NPI 1285406892​

Psychologist - Clinical in San Diego, CA​

NPI Status: Active since October 26, 2023

Contact Information​

3555 ROSECRANS ST STE 114
SAN DIEGO, CA
ZIP 92110
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jsphaguirre said:
Joshua Bailey
DL: D7701090
3554 Rosecrans st
STE 114
San Diego, ca, 92110

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That address is just a UPS store and the STE 114 is a mailbox you pay for in the store. I used Google strret view to confirm its indeed a UPS store. I have one for my online business. Maybe try calling that UPS store and asking who owns that box or what company owns that box and maybe you can track down his real name. It’s also possible that it’s just a completely made up address on his part and he’s not associated to it at all.
 
Even if miles aren't as advertised. Is it a good 100 series or junk. Condition trumps miles.
 
I was using ChatGPT and some reverse Google image searches to try and match those pictures with an actual home address. I see 1112 in the background on one of the houses. I doubt those pictures are from Southern California. Still digging, but I did find this Reddit post.

 
Rush 2112 said:
Advertised on CL as a 2002 with 64k miles. Seller had copy of Carfax and invoices from recent repairs. He gave me the title and showed me his Ca. drivers license that matched the front of the title. Vin on title matches all vins on car. A few days later I was looking through the owners manual and noticed it was for a 1999. Strange. Ran my own Carfax and came back a 1999 with 340K. They had altered the year and odometer date on the front of the tile. This was not going to be a daily driver for me. Financially, it hurts, but not the end of the world. This is personal. I want to do all I can to catch these MOFO's before they do it to someone else.
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340k certainly isn't what you were paying for however if you do decide to keep it you'll find plenty of members here have similar or even more miles
 
Did you do any sort of inspection before you purchase the so called 64K miles vehicle ? At that mileage the condition should be pristine. 340K miles will have leaks and worn interior. They can swap odometers but unless they do a full restoration, there’s no way to make a 340k miles vehicle look/feel like one with 64K miles.
 
FxFormat said:
Did you do any sort of inspection before you purchase the so called 64K miles vehicle ? At that mileage the condition should be pristine. 340K miles will have leaks and worn interior. They can swap odometers but unless they do a full restoration, there’s no way to make a 340k miles vehicle look/feel like one with 64K miles.
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My reason for posting is to try and contact the two people on this thread that were ripped off by the same people as me. Any should should've, would've could've will be ignored. Thanks
 
Rush 2112 said:
Advertised on CL as a 2002 with 64k miles. Seller had copy of Carfax and invoices from recent repairs. He gave me the title and showed me his Ca. drivers license that matched the front of the title. Vin on title matches all vins on car. A few days later I was looking through the owners manual and noticed it was for a 1999. Strange. Ran my own Carfax and came back a 1999 with 340K. They had altered the year and odometer date on the front of the tile. This was not going to be a daily driver for me. Financially, it hurts, but not the end of the world. This is personal. I want to do all I can to catch these MOFO's before they do it to someone else.
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Omg, just read thru the first 8 pages and then your post… so angry and sad! So so sorry this is happening again and needs to be stopped. Couple thoughts here, may be just takes time for the OP to respond to your request. I would think he would like to be helpful in your quest but some may just wanted to move on too. Appears he sold the LC and brought a GX, but on the first page OP posted the pics showed the lic # from that you may be able to find a complaint filed at the San Diego DMV? There’s also a copy of the repair showing the VIN but likely that’s a fake number.
Another thought would be start a new thread since this is old and many may have seen it while not paying attention to it… with a similar but stand out subject title “ Purchased 2000 LC found odometer roll back and title altered needs help same previous scammer MOFO” or let’s let’s get these MOFO! There really need to be a group effort on this as lots of experiences here and more importantly these scammers are targeting out beloved LC, it won’t stop and sooner or later authorities will get involved. The LC is going up in value, yesterday BAT just sold a clean 2002 212k mi for $37k so they will continue doing this scam. Hang in there, we’ll get them!
 
FxFormat said:
Did you do any sort of inspection before you purchase the so called 64K miles vehicle ? At that mileage the condition should be pristine. 340K miles will have leaks and worn interior. They can swap odometers but unless they do a full restoration, there’s no way to make a 340k miles vehicle look/feel like one with 64K miles.
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Rush 2112 said:
My reason for posting is to try and contact the two people on this thread that were ripped off by the same people as me. Any should should've, would've could've will be ignored. Thanks
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Nobody is should-ing you. He's asking a question and I'm also curious about the answer. Your answer might help others and/or help figure out the exact MO of these people. What is the condition of the rest of the vehicle? Are they doing significant work on the interior/paint/under-carriage to make the vehicle appear cleaner/lower mileage?
 
To help those future buyers, form :cry:

Unless you're a seasoned used vehicle inspector, hire a good PP inspector.
 
Rush 2112 said:
My reason for posting is to try and contact the two people on this thread that were ripped off by the same people as me. Any should should've, would've could've will be ignored. Thanks
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sorry didn't mean to come off as would of could of kinda of thing. Just wanted to see how good these people are that they can make a 340K miles LC look like one with 64K miles. Could you post some pics of the engine bay, underneath where the suspension/rack is and interior? the original poster that got scammed, his LC looked super clean, they did a good job hiding that thing from age.
 
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